The recurrent discussion about bum scrunch leggings

[SockSensation]

Or whatever they're called.

To me it's obvious they're designed to accentuate a woman's rear end, for the benefit/attraction of men.

But that's OK, why do women pretend they never do anything to try an attract a man, when biology/history shows that's pretty much why we're on the planet and occupies an awful lot of time, from puberty onwards.(and vice versa)?

If women want some sexual attention they're perfectly free to behave in whatever way they believe will get it. Why do those who do it deny it and women who see it judge it?

Others might do it differently, in ways they consider less obvious, but it's there.

Why is it a bad thing?

But maybe they're not doing it to attract a man.

I'm a 40yo married mum of two. I'm not trying to attract a man, but I still want to look good.

Sometimes I put on something and think my arse or boobs look fantastic. I doubt anyone else looks twice at me or gives a shit, but I feel nice.

Agree!

You might not be trying to attract "a man" but you do maybe like the idea of being attractive and getting some male attention?

I'll be honest, I enjoy being single and I really don't want a man to keep, but I like the idea that I could if I wanted to.

Otherwise, why?

Some women dress for the male gaze, some dress for other women. I love clothes/fashion so would never wear bum scrunch leggings but you can’t have good taste without bad 😆

I would still want to look nice if I was only around women though.

It can also be about feeling fit and strong. I don't personally wear those leggings. But I think it's fashionable at the moment to have a big, toned, lifted arse.

I think a lot of modern women's fashion doesn't actually appeal to men very much at all.

Good question.
Most of us are unaware of the social conditioning we have experienced.
Looking good is a personal thing - not every trend is flattering or a sexually alluring aesthetic. But many are...
I would say each to their own, except striving for a certain look can have negative wider consequences. Fast fashion, poor self esteem, bullying etc.
Why do we judge? Because non-conformity threatens the status quo? Jealousy? Wisdom? I don't think there's a simple answer.

What 'looking good' is is often defined in sexual terms, even if tangentially.

Choosing certain colours, certain styles is all just an evolution of peacock feathers and large antlers. When you look at yourself and think 'my boobs look fantastic' it is not only highly likely that your concept of 'fantastic' overlaps with another person's 'sexy' but it's also likely that those two concepts converge for an evolutionary reason.

We are all built to attract a man/ woman. Even if our heads don't want it, subconsciously we are all acting in an attractive way.

Agreed and I’m actually more inclined to dress nicely when it’s in front of other women..

I think most men don’t notice. They’re totally oblivious.

My partner (thankfully) notices when I’ve made a super effort for a night out or something but makes no other comments ever about what I’m wearing.

I don’t think he’d know what fashion was if it slapped him round the head 😂

I would still want to look nice if I was only around women though

But don’t you think women and men generally have different opinions on what is nice though?

I'm not bothered about why people wear them. I just find the look of them repulsive. I wonder what'll be the next fad. Maybe builders bum leggings that show the top of your bum crack over the waist band.

But that's OK, why do women pretend they never do anything to try an attract a man, when biology/history shows that's pretty much why we're on the planet and occupies an awful lot of time, from puberty onwards.(and vice versa)?

i have little sympathy for the biology history argument as social demands have a massive impact, evolutionary biology tends to pick and choose patriarchal narratives (much reading available on this and the impossibility of theorising accurately). As sentient beings we have more choice over our biology than many animals, and not all animals behave this way anyway - actually it’s often the other way around but let’s ignore that narrative cos society thinks women should be trying to attract mates in ways that men value in their women

I do not dress for men. I dress for myself - sometimes I’m well aware how those of preferences have been shaped by society but does t mean I always follow their dictates

But that's exactly my point really. I don't know or care what men find attractive or like.

I probably did when I was a teenager. But I can hand on heart say I haven't given a shit what a man thinks for probably 15-20 years.

I probably look at women and what they're wearing more than men.

Despite the narrative they'd like, many women seem to feel duped when they realise their choices are biologically hard coded to serve what many see as the enemy.
It's okay to admit you dress to attract.

Yes, this.

I find it hard to believe you don't know what men find attractive. It hasn't changed in 20 years - it's pretty much been the same since the beginning of time. I don't think many men are making sartorial judgements in that sort of thing.

Women dress mainly for other women, in fact. It's not about the attraction, it about the competition.

Can't see it as any different to the hair straightening, botox, fake tan and nails anti aging, weight loss medication, make up etc.

People either want to look all the same or 'better' and fake, I would say it is for men when they want to pull or 'keep a man' but otherwise just what people think they need

That's still not as bad as the shorts I've seen people wear with pretty much their entire lower buttocks exposed. I don't want to sit where they have been sitting. (not envy)

There's a guy on Tiktok who shows gym exercises and he always wears bum scrunchers.

There have always been fashion fads.

Why is it only women who get accused of attention seeking?

I find men in Lycra on bicycles quite repulsive. Same with men showing builders bums 🤢
Or men who have to take their tops off the minute there's a tiny bit of sunshine. Men who shove socks down their pants. Men who walk round with their hands down their trousers 🤢

I'd rather look at a woman in scrunch bum leggings any day.

The problem is you automatically thinking that a woman has chosen to wear those leggings to accentuate her bum for the benefit of man.

Is there no possibility she had worn them because her accentuated bum has given her confidence because it looks good?

You might think yourself and other women are put on the planet for the pleasure and attraction of men. Many, many other women don't.

There's an awful lot of threads appearing that are low level showing how women are happily propping up the patriarchy and classifying women in a certain role. Odd

Yeah, I find those much worse then the scrunch-bum, leggings - they look like gym knickers, or Bridget Jones' pants... why on earth would anyone choose to wear them?! Saw a couple of girls at the supermarket the other day, had to give a double-take as it genuinely looked liked they'd forgotten their skirts. I just can't understand why anyone would look at themselves in the mirror dressed like that and think it looked good? I must be getting old...

I suppose it's a modern version of the Victorian "bustle"

Oh ffs this shit again. Why do you care!? It's none of your business!! Get a hobby!