The recurrent discussion about bum scrunch leggings

[SockSensation]

Or whatever they're called.

To me it's obvious they're designed to accentuate a woman's rear end, for the benefit/attraction of men.

But that's OK, why do women pretend they never do anything to try an attract a man, when biology/history shows that's pretty much why we're on the planet and occupies an awful lot of time, from puberty onwards.(and vice versa)?

If women want some sexual attention they're perfectly free to behave in whatever way they believe will get it. Why do those who do it deny it and women who see it judge it?

Others might do it differently, in ways they consider less obvious, but it's there.

Why is it a bad thing?

I'm 50 and a professional. I wear figure hugging tops and fitted dresses, trousers or skirts. I don't wear makeup and I have curly unruly hair so not much I can do with that. Definitely don't dress for other women but I do like to be noticed by men.

That's exactly what a rapist would say.

She dressed like that so asked for it.

You've quoted and replied to yourself.

But men don't care about that, they still will and do approach women and make inappropriate sexual comments and if those comments are refuted, it becomes the womans fault for dressing that way.

A logical woman knows its not her fault but men and their apologists will always make it her fault to protect the men.

It's happened on here where a select few posters won't accept that women actively choose to not dress for male attention.

Women can also feel deeply ashamed of their bodies.

How does it feel to not have the 'right' bum for the leggings?

Can I convince myself that I feel fantastic?

I am dressing for myself?

No one is going to tell me my arse looks great.

Will I be consistently ignored and undervalued in public and private life for not conforming to a desirable stereotype?

Do women who say 'I dress for myself' often wear baggy joggers and sweatshirts and forgo all the perfumes and treatment, cuts and colours and nails. Or is that more for women who have 'let themselves go'.

So us women buy these clothes from brands that have the power to push trends through traditional media/ social media advertising. And we kid ourselves that we dress for ourselves, and it's not for anyone else. As though we live in a microcosm where capitalism, misogyny, objectification don't exist.

Before any one accuses me. I think women should be able to do, wear anything they want. Let's just not kid ourselves that we all have a totally equal unbiased choice.

Obviously not.
I don't disagree with you at all but have you assumed I meant the approval of men?

I know - it was an add-on to my previous comment.

To your point that it's rape apologist etc to say women sometimes dress for the male gaze - no, just because you dress to be seen as attractive to men doesn't mean they're entitled to sexually abuse you or make comments, etc. You're not responsible for mens behaviour regardless of how you dress

There's even studies which have found women wear more revealing clothes that show their boobs/bum etc more when they're ovulating. It's subconscious I think

But women can wear whatever they want - that doesn't mean men can sexually harass them. And tbh men will do that regardless of what you wear

@MsCactus but it's the refusal to believe women when they are saying that they don't dress to attract men.

At 40 years old I feel that I can be 100% certain that I'm not doing anything to myself to attract men.

What it is, is performing for the male gaze

I’m far too old to attract men (or to want to, TBH!) but I still like to look nice, in reasonably flattering clothes, and be reasonably well groomed. To me it’s a question of self respect.

Oh. They notice.

But do you deliberately wear clothes than make you look naked? As that's what bum scrunch leggings do and tbh, I don't want to look at someone's arse with stretchy fabric over it tbh. Eeeew.

I was also around for 80s feminism and took the part about different clothing expectations for men and women very seriously. I learned that I didn’t have to be on constant display and that levels of undress were correlated to lower levels of power, ie rulers were always the one wearing the most clothes and slaves were nearly naked.
So if we could go back in time we could just take all the revealing sexist clothes and just label them as being comfortable and empowering 🤷

I’m not suggesting they are asking for assault. But they are displaying their rear end in more detail than your average person wants to see. Men don’t wear things like that, why do women want to let it all hang out? It’s gross.

Well I found a good and modest scrunch leggings and it works for me.

I’ve gotta say, I wear these leggings because they make me feel like a total boss.

No denying they highlight what I love about my shape—and if that turns a few heads, so be it. For me, it’s all about feeling confident and owning my look without any guilt.