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What do you make of this email response

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Yikitty · 02/09/2024 18:20

Email sent by newish member of staff to senior staff member - 4 others cc’d in

Reasonable run of the mill email - enquiring about confirming a date. Email first line is “I hope you are well”

response:

”You don’t need to ask me if I am well every-time you email me unless you know something I don’t. Yes”

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Woodenwonder · 02/09/2024 21:10

Starlight7080 · 02/09/2024 21:05

I would definitely say it in every email now . No need for them to be so hostile

I'd be over egging it so much, the red flags are flying if people think that level or rudeness if acceptable when you're new, what are they going to be like as times goes on... so now it would just be fun time while I look for another role - I wouldn't be patronised like that by anybody. Gently guide me if you want, hell give me a black mark in my end of year review if you're @Another2Cats 🤣 but yes it'd be...

Dear

I do hope you're well and you had a lovely weekend? What did you get up to? On another note, not long until Christmas!

Please find attached figures for August.

Have a great day, hopefully bump into your in the kitchen for a coffee!

brainpain · 02/09/2024 21:10

I would privately think twat, but duly note and drop the ‘hope you are well’ line to them in future correspondence.

Createausernametoday · 02/09/2024 21:10

Is everyone well today?

Woodenwonder · 02/09/2024 21:11

Createausernametoday · 02/09/2024 21:10

Is everyone well today?

Yes thank you, better for this bonkers post!

RaspberryWhirls · 02/09/2024 21:12

Blimey that's a bit harsh, isn't it better to have staff members who can email politely? I'm getting anxious now as that's how I start my emails.

I think it's a bit rude to launch full on with a request such as:
Dear Jimmy Why hasn't the finance report been circulated to the team yet?

I don't know how to start my email now, I'm getting anxiety about it!

MaidOfAle · 02/09/2024 21:13

pintofsnakebite · 02/09/2024 21:09

I would argue that any insincere statement is anything but polite. Wasting another person's time and mind-resources on noisewords shows them contempt.

Honestly @MaidOfAle have a word with yourself.

Contempt? How many of your delicate 'mind resources' does this take up for fucks sake.

I'm too old but the 'everyone must remember to talk to me in exactly the way I want otherwise they are contemptuous' makes me very weary.

Speeding On My Way GIF by Tomorrow Television

In my posts, I've been considering the emailed statement and a related, commonly-used question "how are you?" together. As several PPs have commented, people typing "I hope you are" don't usually actually feel that way. Why lie?

Also, given the trajectory you're going on, you ok?

POV: me as rabbit.

Iybwsp · 02/09/2024 21:13

Createausernametoday · 02/09/2024 21:10

Is everyone well today?

How dare you treat me with such contempt. Reporting this post.

LostFrog · 02/09/2024 21:14

I hate it as well, when I worked in a school no one started emails like that, it was very direct and to the point. I now work in a different environment and it’s all “hope you’re having a great week so far” and “hope all is well with you” and it really pisses me off. I thought it was just me being grumpy, I’m quite glad it’s not just me.

Woodenwonder · 02/09/2024 21:14

Iybwsp · 02/09/2024 21:13

How dare you treat me with such contempt. Reporting this post.

🤣

pintofsnakebite · 02/09/2024 21:15

@MaidOfAle but I genuinely do hope people are well.

Who are all these people who don't mean it.

It's a statement not a question. I don't need people to respond.

Blinky21 · 02/09/2024 21:15

It's just the email version of asking someone how they are when you meet them. It's a five word social norm that your eye skips past, if it stops you getting quickly to the point of an email you've got worse problems!

Sundayleap · 02/09/2024 21:16

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Dampshinygrass · 02/09/2024 21:17

I use it when emailing externally.

Internally, I’m really not a fan. It’s a waste of time. I have told junior colleagues to drop it because I’d rather they just got to the point.

HoppityBun · 02/09/2024 21:17

The email wasn’t asking if the person was well, it was expressing the hope that they were.

pintofsnakebite · 02/09/2024 21:17

A lot of problem with email is that you can't judge tone, so can be easily misinterpreted.

Statements like 'i hope you are well' help to set the tone that it isn't an arsey or demanding email. It's like smiling at someone in a meeting.

Kneidlach · 02/09/2024 21:18

I would argue that any insincere statement is anything but polite. Wasting another person's time and mind-resources on noisewords shows them contempt.

If scanning the words ‘I hope you are well’ in an email is using up more than a negligible amount of your mind-resources (whatever the hell they are) then an office-based job that involves sending and receiving emails is probably not for you.

MaidOfAle · 02/09/2024 21:21

pintofsnakebite · 02/09/2024 21:09

I would argue that any insincere statement is anything but polite. Wasting another person's time and mind-resources on noisewords shows them contempt.

Honestly @MaidOfAle have a word with yourself.

Contempt? How many of your delicate 'mind resources' does this take up for fucks sake.

I'm too old but the 'everyone must remember to talk to me in exactly the way I want otherwise they are contemptuous' makes me very weary.

Tell me you're not autistic without telling me you're not autistic.

What I'm objecting to here is the ridiculous accommodations I have to make for neurotypical people.

the 'everyone must remember to talk to me in exactly the way I want otherwise they are contemptuous' makes me very weary.

That's been what life has been like for me every day since I was born. I cannot speak or type a sentence without someone saying "not warm enough", "comes across abrupt", or else when I try to act like a "normal" I get told "too wooden", "doesn't flow", "did you get your writing guide from 1950's?", "smile more", "your smile comes across forced", "make more eye contact", and my all-time fave "be more natural".

I have spent my life exhausting myself trying to communicate to neurotypical standards and failing. Yet when I ask for the noisewords to be omitted, I am allegedly unreasonable.

No wonder so few autistic people have jobs.

dutysuite · 02/09/2024 21:22

I don’t care how new I was or how senior that arsehole was I’d have to call out their rudeness.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 02/09/2024 21:22

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That can be helpful. Because you then know who is the biggest twat in the office and plan how to neutralise them (in the office that is)

Woodenwonder · 02/09/2024 21:22

Kneidlach · 02/09/2024 21:18

I would argue that any insincere statement is anything but polite. Wasting another person's time and mind-resources on noisewords shows them contempt.

If scanning the words ‘I hope you are well’ in an email is using up more than a negligible amount of your mind-resources (whatever the hell they are) then an office-based job that involves sending and receiving emails is probably not for you.

Reminds self to add" mind-resources" to the justification databank for next time I get cross and unkind when someone demonstrates nice manners in an email.

MotherofAllMatriarchs · 02/09/2024 21:22

Dampshinygrass · 02/09/2024 21:17

I use it when emailing externally.

Internally, I’m really not a fan. It’s a waste of time. I have told junior colleagues to drop it because I’d rather they just got to the point.

At best, it’s rather grumpy to chastise a junior for taking 6 seconds to wish you well! And some
might say extremely rude to micromanage someone’s communication style to that extent.

OhMaria2 · 02/09/2024 21:22

Yikitty · 02/09/2024 18:20

Email sent by newish member of staff to senior staff member - 4 others cc’d in

Reasonable run of the mill email - enquiring about confirming a date. Email first line is “I hope you are well”

response:

”You don’t need to ask me if I am well every-time you email me unless you know something I don’t. Yes”

Escalate to
" I hope this email finds you in the grace and favour of our Lord"

Woodenwonder · 02/09/2024 21:24

OhMaria2 · 02/09/2024 21:22

Escalate to
" I hope this email finds you in the grace and favour of our Lord"

And sign off with "Blessed be"

MaidOfAle · 02/09/2024 21:25

RaspberryWhirls · 02/09/2024 21:12

Blimey that's a bit harsh, isn't it better to have staff members who can email politely? I'm getting anxious now as that's how I start my emails.

I think it's a bit rude to launch full on with a request such as:
Dear Jimmy Why hasn't the finance report been circulated to the team yet?

I don't know how to start my email now, I'm getting anxiety about it!

Dear Jimmy,

Please remember to...

Or you could do it yourself. I never understand why person A delegates routine document circulation to person B. Surely it takes as long to tell B to do it as to do it yourself?

Icecreamenthusiast · 02/09/2024 21:25

silentassassin · 02/09/2024 18:33

That is seriously so rude and uncalled for. I would copy everyone in and apologise in a passive aggressive manner that makes her look like the dick she is.

"Good morning X,

I sincerely apologise that my enquiring if you were well offended you and caused you such upset. My intention was to be polite. I will make a note not to do that again.

Regards,

Y"

Then every email after that would be cold, hard and clinical.

This