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Adult telling 12 year olds to leave playground

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Wrenbird27 · 24/08/2024 19:17

This happened to my friends daughter. She was with her friends and an older man (~65ish) approached them and told them they were too old to be in the playground. He demanded that they leave before they broke equipment 'with their weight'. He was very persistent and a few of the girls were upset.

The playground was very quiet at the time - just a few other kids.

None of the parents of the 12 year olds were close by - a few of the girls phoned their Mums who arrived quickly but he was gone by then. He didn't have a child himself which the girls noted and thought was odd.

My friend says her daughter won't go there anymore. I think this is a pity as it was a safe area (I thought!) for them to hang out. If there had been more children in the playground they would have moved to the side but the girls said nobody was waiting to go on equipment. The equipment is very sturdy - I've seen adults sitting on swings in there before!

What should they have done?

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TorturedParentsDepartment · 02/09/2024 14:33

Love the work of the entitled mummy to a precious first born.

Those of us defending the 12 year olds... they were little too once. We've all done our stint of moving away from giant towering 6 year olds on swings and soft plays and thinking our child is the tiny precious one and all other kids are hoodlums....

Spoiler - they're not. They're just larger kids. And with how society seems determined to press girls in particular out of childhood earlier and earlier - we need to be sticking up for those 12 year olds who are still out on the climbing frame - not demonising them. If the park has no age limits - they have as much right to be there as any other child. If they're behaving like arses - then yes, tell them off - but if they're just inconveniencing you by virtue of their simple existence - tough shit.

We have it all bloody summer long on the local FB group... whining cos kids are out on bikes, whining cos kids are sitting on a bench in the park, whining cos kids are walking to Tesco, whining cos kids usually of school age are in the park during school hours and it's fucking ridiculous. These kids are not allowed to just exist anywhere - and no, they don't have to be taking a football and engaging in a structured activity at any time they're out of the house - and can you imagine the outrage (from the same people) if these "street kids" rocked up at the park with sticks?!

The nightmare 12 year olds I know - are the ones whose mothers were the sort who kicked up a stink at other kids daring to use the park, demanded that any child that looked older than them gave way so they could use whatever they wanted, encouraged them to come out of the younger kid area and completely block up the older kids' play area by trying to tackle a piece of equipment completely beyond them etc etc... they're the ones who are now little thugs at age 12 and the ones likely to be trying to trash things effing and blinding - because they've had their entire time on this earth being the centre of attention and getting pandered to.

BananaPalm · 02/09/2024 14:33

vitahelp · 02/09/2024 14:15

What the man did was a bit odd but I must admit I do hate it when kids over 10 in groups hang out in parks. They’re rarely using the equipment but more piled up on it gossiping! My daughter finds it intimidating and avoids that area and I find it quite awkward too. Last time I saw this was a group of 8 approx 12 year old girls draped over a seesaw, it wasn’t moving they were just sat on it talking..

I agree. If the playground is not just for under 12s/10s/etc and they are actually playing (nicely, not pushing toddlers out of their way) then I see no reason why they shouldn't be there.

However, using equipment meant for toddlers (damaging it as a result), running around aggressively and jumping over younger kids, or even sitting on equipment (instead of a bench) and blocking it from actually being used by others are definitely examples of antisocial behaviour. Just as is putting your bag on an empty seat is when the bus/train is busy.

sandyhappypeople · 02/09/2024 14:38

Elbone · 02/09/2024 14:26

They are siting on children’s play equipment, not using it, but making it so that children who want to use it cannot. The fact they’re so much older and clearly not interested in being aware that small children want to use the equipment is clear of their attitude.
It IS intimidating for small children and to be fair, many adults. Stop pretending to not know this.

I'm not sure it's pretense, it's the reason their kids are so oblivious/inconsiderate to other users of shared spaces.

Why would anyone think it's okay to sit on (hog) play equipment, when there are younger children there who want to actually play on it. IMO if you aren't using the equipment for what it is intended then you shouldn't be on it.. there's normally plenty of seating around parks to sit on.

It's like if someone stands in the doorway of a shop.. sure, you can ask them to move so you can go in, but why should you have to, it's basic human consideration to be aware of other people around you and not cause an obstruction in the first place.

MrsSunshine2b · 02/09/2024 14:50

Thebaguette · 02/09/2024 14:31

I agree I made a mistake, I apologise for that. But I did find it rude that you are mocking of a small child being intimidated by older kids and saying you hope she has recovered that trauma.

I find it rude that you're gatekeeping the correct age group that people are allowed to use (or sit on) communal equipment, and absurdly entitled of you to think that YOU and your precious child feeling intimidated trumps their right to exist in public. I'm not mocking the child, I'm mocking the adult who is teaching their child to be afraid of girls having a chat.

Elbone · 02/09/2024 14:58

MrsSunshine2b · 02/09/2024 14:50

I find it rude that you're gatekeeping the correct age group that people are allowed to use (or sit on) communal equipment, and absurdly entitled of you to think that YOU and your precious child feeling intimidated trumps their right to exist in public. I'm not mocking the child, I'm mocking the adult who is teaching their child to be afraid of girls having a chat.

No one has the right to sit on a piece of equipment, therefore making it inaccessible for others, and not even use it themselves.

There are benches to sit on and chat.

sandyhappypeople · 02/09/2024 15:02

MrsSunshine2b · 02/09/2024 14:50

I find it rude that you're gatekeeping the correct age group that people are allowed to use (or sit on) communal equipment, and absurdly entitled of you to think that YOU and your precious child feeling intimidated trumps their right to exist in public. I'm not mocking the child, I'm mocking the adult who is teaching their child to be afraid of girls having a chat.

It's a see saw on play park built for 2 kids, not a communal sitting area built for 8 kids.. I don't think their ages is even relevant in your example.

They are 'sitting' on it preventing anyone else from 'playing' on it, if they don't recognise that as inconsiderate the chances of them moving out of the way for other kids who want to actually play on it is slim to none.

The issue of it is, there are always plenty of places around parks & playgrounds for kids to sit in a group, why would they need to 'sit' on a piece of play equipment at all?

Elbone · 02/09/2024 15:06

their right to exist in public

indeed 😂😂😂

TorturedParentsDepartment · 02/09/2024 15:08

And my 12 year old was horrendously excited when the playground was being revamped to see what new equipment was added - because they are just kids at the end of the day - however desperately they try to pretend they're not sometimes!

Thebaguette · 02/09/2024 15:17

MrsSunshine2b · 02/09/2024 14:50

I find it rude that you're gatekeeping the correct age group that people are allowed to use (or sit on) communal equipment, and absurdly entitled of you to think that YOU and your precious child feeling intimidated trumps their right to exist in public. I'm not mocking the child, I'm mocking the adult who is teaching their child to be afraid of girls having a chat.

I am not saying 12 year old should not be allowed to use playground but not those equipments designed for younger kids.

Thebaguette · 02/09/2024 15:19

If you ask me personally, I would say even adults should have their own playgrounds, don't we all need to wind down and have some silly fun but in limited resources, needs have to be prioritised.

florasl · 02/09/2024 16:37

Why not ask your local parish to install something suitable for older children? Play companies do seating with staging for older children that might want somewhere to sit/staging for dances. Parish Councils are generally able to access large pots of money, particularly in grants for things that target teenagers.

sovereignplayequipment.co.uk/sensory-playground-equipment/stages-and-theatres/tri-linx-staging/

NowImNotDoingIt · 02/09/2024 17:09

@Thebaguette I hope you keep your kid off equipment designed for older kids (than yours) too.

CurlewKate · 02/09/2024 18:27

People are aware that some playgrounds are designated for particular ages?

VeneziaJ · 02/09/2024 18:48

itzthTtimeGib · 02/09/2024 08:25

Our local playground is literally signposted as only for under 8s. It’s quite common

Where are you supposed to take your 8 year old for outdoor play then? Lots of soft plays also stop at 7 its as if the people who design and run play areas and soft plays only want to cater for cute toddlers and forget that children older than 7 still are little kids🙄

CurlewKate · 02/09/2024 19:12

Our playground has a section fenced off for younger ones, and swings and a slide for older ones. The problem is the older ones absolutely love the little playground- I've had to ask older kids to move several times.

DontBeADick11 · 02/09/2024 20:23

ArtVandeIay · 24/08/2024 19:22

They should have said no, and if he continued to hassle them they should have shouted nonce or paedo at him in a loud voice, that tends to work round here anyway 😂

Oh very mature. Next there will be a post about how rude and disrespectful kids are these days

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 02/09/2024 20:41

Thebaguette · 02/09/2024 11:42

Yes but dont let your 13 year old sit on an equipment made for kids upto 8 years old.

Where does the assumption come from that the 12 year olds were just occupying playground equipment without making use of it, and intimidating younger children who wanted to use it, or that they were using playground equipment which wasn't age-appropriate?
It's not in the OP, people are just making things up to suit their own narrative.

JennyTalia · 02/09/2024 20:43

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 02/09/2024 20:45

InTheRainOnATrain · 02/09/2024 11:28

To flip this around, perhaps the parents aren’t helping their toddler themselves because they don’t want them on that equipment as they’ve decided that they are too young to do it safely. Then a random teen comes along, who may well be kind, lovely and full of good intentions, but they’re also a child themselves and really shouldn’t be making judgements about what equipment a stranger’s child can go on. It’s behaviour I’ve actually told my 7YO to stop in the past, because she has tried to help friends of her younger brother and I’ve told her that ‘we don’t want anyone getting hurt and its up to their mummy to decide what equipment they can go on’. I’d definitely expect a teen to know that the ‘help’ is unlikely to be appreciated unless they know the family very well and know for sure that they’re ok with it.

Thank you for putting that point of view. What you say would never have occurred to me, I guess it must be a generational difference, as my child was in the playground 20 years ago. Also not in the UK, which may again, make a difference!

BooBooDoodle · 03/09/2024 18:25

Aww, this makes me sad. I have a 13, nearly 14 year old DS and he bloody loves a playground. We’ve been out and about over the summer and if we see a play area we usually stop and my boys run off and let off steam. I was quite disappointed in some play areas (out of town) having age restrictions on them. No over 10’s at one and no over 12’s at another. The equipment wasn’t geared up towards a younger age group as stated either, they were normal areas with aerial runways and those high rope pyramid things. As it was quiet I let my teen have 10 mins but told him to keep away from any littles and if other kids want a go on anything he was on then he was to let them and come away. On the whole playgrounds are wonderful, I do get age restrictions and whatnot but they are still children and many of them still want to innocently play. Not all of them are hooligans and on ASBO’s. This would be scary to my kids and upset them.

Goldenbear · 03/09/2024 18:30

soonandsoforth · 24/08/2024 21:15

I'd appreciate someone doing this at my local playground tbh. Any kids older than eight or nine are nothing but a nuisance in there. Young teenagers/ tweens are the worst.
On the other hand, I understand it's an awkward age and can see why they gravitate towards kiddy places like that. I'm sure I did it too.
I'm with him about the equipment withstanding their weight though. Local teenagers and grown adults keep breaking the zip lines because for some reason they can't resist going on them. They're too heavy so they get stretched out til they're too close to the ground. The cargo nets and bridges get broken quite regularly as well.

8 or 9 what? I have a early teen and she’s a lot lighter than some tubby children who are 6 and 7!

Itsdefinitelytimeforanamechange · 03/09/2024 19:27

My children were happily playing in the park other day (6 and below) when a group of 12/13 yr olds decided to take over and scream Fxxxing this and that at each other, pulling each other around, metres away. I asked them to stop swearing in a child’s park and they did stop. There’s a difference between 12 year olds harmlessly using the swings and invading a small child’s park (for 8 years and below) with that behaviour

Askingforafriendtoday · 03/09/2024 19:33

soonandsoforth · 24/08/2024 21:15

I'd appreciate someone doing this at my local playground tbh. Any kids older than eight or nine are nothing but a nuisance in there. Young teenagers/ tweens are the worst.
On the other hand, I understand it's an awkward age and can see why they gravitate towards kiddy places like that. I'm sure I did it too.
I'm with him about the equipment withstanding their weight though. Local teenagers and grown adults keep breaking the zip lines because for some reason they can't resist going on them. They're too heavy so they get stretched out til they're too close to the ground. The cargo nets and bridges get broken quite regularly as well.

This

neelhtak · 03/09/2024 19:40

CurbsideProphet · 02/09/2024 07:32

I wonder if the playground is paid for by the parish council and he is part of it? That's how the playground is funded where I live. We get 12-14 year olds hanging about the playground making rude comments and climbing on equipment not really meant for them. No one would bat an eyelid at someone telling off children for misbehaving/ damaging equipment, but it's different in a village.

That's the first though that struck me also. We don't know exactly what the story was here, but I have a fair idea and most intelligent adults will have it sussed. To the person who suggested verbally abusing and slandering the man, let's hope that was just a joke in appalling taste.

Aliceinmotherland1 · 03/09/2024 21:55

Goldbar · 02/09/2024 09:25

As a society, we seem to think that 10-11 is when childhood ends. It is hugely harmful for our children, who might not be ready to leave childhood things behind then.

We've really got to sort out our play offering for 10-16 year olds, don't we? They are children and they need suitable play spaces too.

And don't get me started on sending tiny 11yos to huge, intimidating secondary schools with draconian behavioural policies.

I feel really sorry for children turning 10 in this country. We have our failings, but everyone seems quite invested in making sure that children aged 1-10 are cherished and have a good time. Lots of play programmes, holiday programmes, local events, family fun days etc.

But after that when they're no longer cute, we don't seem even to want them in public spaces at all!

This.