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Blake Lively, RR & It Ends With Us drama

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notallbloom · 16/08/2024 14:04

Have NC because I freely admit that I have (limited) skin in this game, I am not entirely neutral.

This tells the story of the rift better than I could video here more about JB here JB info

Have worked for Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds in the UK, they are ...erm not my favourite slebs to work with. BL can be nasty to staff, her I'm all for women thing would be great, if she wasn't awful to them in reality. RR sometimes apologetically, always sides with BL, as his wife.
However, she does have 4 young DCs, so has spent much of the last decade pregnant, or post partum, which is enough to make anyone tired and therefore appear 'difficult'.

As I am senior in my role, stars have to treat me with some decency. Even so, the mask slips, I do everything I can to make their time in the UK as comfortable as possible, whilst placating the staff they upset, I will not work with them if I can avoid it.

Justin Baldoni directed It Ends With Us, I do not know JB.

Anti JB side (note there isn't much information about what JB has done wrong):
• He was difficult on set.
• He was acting and directing, diluting his ability to do both.
• He has hired a the firm of PR crisis manager who helped to improve Johnny Depp's image during the Amber Heard trial.
• JB has a pro 'good' men podcast called Man Enough, largely it is positive. Unfortunately he had Drake Bell on the podcast and did not question his accountability for previous SA.

Anti BL side:
• BL is trying to give the film a Barbie moment, encouraging audiences, for a film about DV, to wear florals.
• BL has objected to two things; she says JB fat-shamed her on set and, in one scene kissed her for too long (no suggestion that the kiss itself was inappropriate e.g. tongue).
• BL & RR made a cut of the film, which emphasises the rom-com of the story, rather than the DV.
• BL has corralled the author, Colleen Hoover and the cast to 'unfollow' JB on social media.
• RR rewrote a scene for the film without being asked by the director in doing so, RR broke the writer's strike.
• The cast have not been doing any press or standing on the red carpet at the premieres with JB.
• BL is using the film promo to also promote her new hair brand.

It may be that JB was a massive a-hole, or it may be that BL was a 'mean girl' and used her considerable power to influence the rest of the cast to be unpleasant to JB.
The truth could lie somewhere in the middle.

This is everything I know, I did not work on the film, or the promotion of it, so far.
I am able to agree that I have direct experience of seeing what BL and RR are like IRL, whereas I do not have the same experience of JB.
I'm prepared to accept that JB is the villain here.
I do not have any further information about this situation, if any comes my way I will, without breaking my contractual obligations, write about it here.

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Josette77 · 16/08/2024 18:59

Catnope · 16/08/2024 18:42

I think Taylor is incredibly talented. Her lyrics are both beautiful and clever.

But she’s not a perfect person - even though she has had to pretend to be in order to be accepted in the industry as a girl / woman. She often sings about being a pathological people pleaser. Her song Mirrorball is all about how she’ll do anything to keep you looking at her.

She interviews very well though - is incredibly likeable.

I think she and her team are very clever and know what they’re doing.

But she’s a billionaire and she didn’t get there by being flatly, passively nice to everyone around her. She got there by working tirelessly.

The about being ruthless with her competition - I don’t think Charli XCX etc are in her league, and if she were in another industry and a man (Steve Jobbs and Apple, say) no one would say “that’s mean of Steve Jobbs, taking more of a market share. It should let another company and creator have some”. I know that’s not a perfect comparison, but I really don’t think she’s gatekeeping the top spot from other women - think she wants it because she’s very ambitious and wants to be the best and her fans are willingly giving it to her. Her old peers, Adele, Billie Eilish, etc could never compete with her now, she’s so far surpassed them.

All that to one side, if you look at her friends (BL, Gigi Hadid, etc) they don’t seem like the “nicest” people. But whatever - I’ll never know them!

The other thing about Taylor is, her lyrics are so personal and her discography is so huge that it can feel like you “know” her, that’s why her fans are so faithful.

I think she’s insanely talented and really admire her though. But she wants it. I don’t think anyone gets to be a billionaire without being ruthless.

Gigi is a bloody angel to work with. Her and Bella are polite and humble and lovely to work with.

Catnope · 16/08/2024 19:03

Josette77 · 16/08/2024 18:59

Gigi is a bloody angel to work with. Her and Bella are polite and humble and lovely to work with.

Fair enough! I think it’s just the Real Housewives stereotype that makes me think otherwise!

Like I said, I don’t know - and will never know - Gigi Hadid etc!

HereComesDecember · 16/08/2024 19:06

I always found this interaction strange that she said that, although it was “playful” and having “fun with the fans” when she was at Wrexham.

Namename12345562 · 16/08/2024 19:06

Nanana1 · 16/08/2024 14:41

You’re sure this whole drama isn’t a way of spinning interest in the film?

Thought has crossed my mind.

A bit risky though as BL and RR are not coming across well… I think I’m still a bit stunned this is a movie about domestic violence, I only realised that today after watching a Justin Baldoni (think that’s his name?) interview! But the 2016 interview has put me off BL, without that I’d think she was being dealt a hard blow

XelaM · 16/08/2024 19:08

notallbloom · 16/08/2024 14:21

@putyourhandsintheairok as with any thread you are welcome to read this, or not, add useful perspectives, if you don't like the thread you can scroll on past.

No I am not in the least bit concerned about being outed @Trox.

My impression is that JB's cut of the film had the grit @Remmy123, Colleen Hoover, BL and RR wanted to emphasise the romance.

@Nanana1 RR in particular is incredibly successful and powerful.

That will be the mask slip @SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament.

Then I won't tell you anything about Taylor Swift @Taylorontour.

Taylor Swift is so clearly a mean girl who portrays this fake plastic image. I have no idea what anyone sees in her.

ColdrainJune · 16/08/2024 19:11

Re Ryan Gosling, the film he did with Emily Blunt recently, where her face was all swollen from fillers. I listened to a podcast where they were questioning the low box office figures for that movie, i couldn’t watch it because I didn’t want to look at Emily’s surgically ‘enhanced’ silly puffed up face for 2 hours which spoke to her insecurities and vulnerability as much as it does with all of them. They’re both beautiful celebs hence their stardom, why they and others fall prey to the shittiest of cosmetic surgeons the way they do and can’t get good people around them to advise them or convince them of
otherwise is beyond me. Going big on filler is such a bad bad move. Why couldn’t Ryan see that in Emily. Blake on the other hand. Her surgery does enhance her looks, can’t speak to her personality. But she’s never been that popular, what was the whole thing about her and the cooking website and the Martha Stewart thing. She get’s a similar reception to Megan markle.

HellsBells67 · 16/08/2024 19:19

I'm overcome with indifference.

BehindTheSequinsandStilettos · 16/08/2024 19:22

notallbloom · 16/08/2024 14:49

Absolutely @Nanana1, if I wanted a the real scoop there are people I can ask. I'm not asking because, as my OP eludes, there are at least two sides to every story. Even within the industry, it will take months for the real story from each side to be known.

I'm posting about it because it is unusual for a large film to have a huge, and very evident, cast rift. I am honestly interested in what other people think about it.

Unusual but not unprecedented.
Just look at the rift on Don't Worry Darling.
As far as I know, it didn't impact box office. It just wasn't a great movie.
$20-35 million
Box office
$87.6 million

The rift on It Ends With Us might be the singular, most interesting thing about it <miaow>

BehindTheSequinsandStilettos · 16/08/2024 19:24

Nanana1 · 16/08/2024 15:15

Top comment on the DM is she won’t work again

Thats rubbish

Nah, there'll be a Lady Deadpool movie, you watch.

Catnope · 16/08/2024 19:30

BehindTheSequinsandStilettos · 16/08/2024 19:22

Unusual but not unprecedented.
Just look at the rift on Don't Worry Darling.
As far as I know, it didn't impact box office. It just wasn't a great movie.
$20-35 million
Box office
$87.6 million

The rift on It Ends With Us might be the singular, most interesting thing about it <miaow>

Yeah agree. And I (willingly) fell for it with Don’t Worry Darling - found the press around it fascinating and I watched the movie on a flight recently. If it weren’t for the controversy, I wouldn’t have bothered watching because it didn’t get great reviews!

Same with It Ends With Us, tbh. I wasn’t interested in the book, wouldn’t be interested in the film, but all this attention means I’ll probably watch it on streaming / a flight.

DanceTheDevilBackIntoHisHole · 16/08/2024 19:36

notallbloom · 16/08/2024 17:57

@Birdsrule I agree that she will definitely work again, of course she will.

You are correct, we all have our off days.

I'm unsure how much of JB's new PR, my understanding is that he only employed them recently, is putting out negative stuff about BL. It may be that his PR team are focused on portraying him positively and the media are doing the rest wrt BL.

Have you heard that 'Who Trolled Amber?' podcast? It's fascinating to hear how bots went after her so hard and the work they do to try and find out who started it and why. Just very interesting and doesn't feel coincidental that JB is working with Depp's team...

TwigletsAndRadishes · 16/08/2024 19:39

1offnamechange · 16/08/2024 18:26

you care so little that not only have you clicked on the thread title, and read the whole OP, but then typed out a 3 paragraph rant about how little you care...

There are lots of things I don't give shiny shits about. Football, for example. So...I don't give it any headspace. If I saw a post clearly about football I wouldn't bother clicking on it, let alone write a long reply about how much I dislike football and how weird anyone else who likes it is...

I clicked on it because it I thought the thread was going to be about the film. It's had a lot of attention recently because of its subject matter and I thought the trailer looked interesting.

I thought the film's title followed by the word 'drama' was a reference to the film being a drama. Not that there was a drama going on among the bickering cast, which I genuinely do not give a shit about.

Your football analogy would have been a good one if the thread had actually been about the film, and I'd ranted about finding it bizarre that people enjoy films.

But it wasn't about films, was it? It was about tawdry celeb tittle tattle, speculation on BL's marriage, whether or not she's a nice person or a mean girl, etc etc. It's the level of interest in that i find bizarre.

BehindTheSequinsandStilettos · 16/08/2024 19:41

Blake wearing bright pink for a Barbie red carpet even though she wasn't in it

I'm not coming for her for that. The whole country was doing it.

Blake trying to create an empowerment message + wear floral
Can't blame a girl for trying. Marketing the movie is part of the job. I'm only amazed they haven't tried an It ends with Deadpool vs Wolverine pitch for a double-movie date

The trailer made it clear to me (who hasn't read the book) that DV is part of the plot, jealous husband and The One That Got Away. But it doesn't look as good as, say, Sleeping with the enemy (not a wow movie but I still remember the ordered cupboards!)

OP, are you American? Are you a publicist? Is this your way of promoting interest in a movie out in the UK? Or are you on JB's PR team?!
If yes to any, was Taytay and Tom Hiddlestone a complete showmance/made up for press? #SummerofTayto.Never forget! Wink
Is the current Tight end bloke Travis Kelce for real? Is Taytay closeted or, like Harry Styles, knows how to work the gay/bi angle?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/08/2024 19:46

The trailer made it clear to me (who hasn't read the book) that DV is part of the plot, jealous husband and The One That Got Away. But it doesn't look as good as, say, Sleeping with the enemy (not a wow movie but I still remember the ordered cupboards!)

God yes, the cupboards! There's an excellent clip online making the rounds of Julia Roberts being interviewed about the film at the time, and she answers so eloquently about DV, how she couldn't possibly understand it personally as she's never experienced it but her answer is so thought out and considered, even when the interviewer says 'I would've just left sooner', like it was as easy of that. Julia’s replies are spot on. Complete opposite of Blake!

Sleepydoor · 16/08/2024 19:50

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/08/2024 19:46

The trailer made it clear to me (who hasn't read the book) that DV is part of the plot, jealous husband and The One That Got Away. But it doesn't look as good as, say, Sleeping with the enemy (not a wow movie but I still remember the ordered cupboards!)

God yes, the cupboards! There's an excellent clip online making the rounds of Julia Roberts being interviewed about the film at the time, and she answers so eloquently about DV, how she couldn't possibly understand it personally as she's never experienced it but her answer is so thought out and considered, even when the interviewer says 'I would've just left sooner', like it was as easy of that. Julia’s replies are spot on. Complete opposite of Blake!

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I immediately thought of Sleeping With The Enemy when this movie came out and was wondering if Blake had the acting chops to pull off this role. Sleeping With The Enemy is a movie that really stayed with me. The plot was great, very suspenseful, the actor who portrayed her evil husband was so believable and I think Julia Roberts did a fantastic job.

OnAndOnAndonAgain · 16/08/2024 19:51

Since when did mn bring in a thread gallery! I can't see the issue with wearing pink, the majority of people did when they watched it, even me who never owned anything pink before that

BehindTheSequinsandStilettos · 16/08/2024 19:58

It's tricky to market a film about DV as a Summer blockbuster, if there's no revenge/crime element to it. Guardian reported that 50 women have been killed in the UK this year so far. It could have been more gritty and marketed thus.
However, judging from the synopsis I just read of the original material, the book was also romantic/journey of strength so I can see why those are easier to sell. Florist/floral makes sense as a marketing tool. Not sure survivors of DV/the sisterhood will buy it though. However, there are those with suicidal ideation that get tattoos of ; and rape survivors who get medusa tats done. The floral symbolism might work as a pulling-together movement but it's cynical as fuck.
People want to be part of things though and find their tribe. That sense of belonging/all in this together/bracelet-swapping etc is part of why Taytay's done so well.
Nonetheless, it's a better marketing strategy than the author had, when trying to flog a tie-in colouring book based on Lily's story. What the fuck?! I'll just colour this bit black and blue

notallbloom · 16/08/2024 20:00

@BehindTheSequinsandStilettos
I am most definitely British. I'm taking some time off after the onslaught of Deadpool/Wolverine, so definitely not working.
However, it is my job, in a broader sense, to take an interest in what is going on.

I'm not promoting this film at all.
We call them films in the UK.
I am not on anyone's PR team, I am on holiday.

This week, while lying on a lounger, I have been watching the It Ends With Us drama unfold.

Aside from the fact that this is a film about DV, the thing that honestly left me reeling was the interview question to BL. This misquotes are my own, along the lines of; what should someone do if they want to discuss the themes of the film with you? (The interviewer clearly wants DV helplines etc.)
BL says; what do you want my phone number? Shall I drop my location?

At best, this is insensitive, at worst it is rude, thoughtless, entitled and arrogant.

This Video Explains It Welll*

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Namename12345562 · 16/08/2024 20:02

DanceTheDevilBackIntoHisHole · 16/08/2024 19:36

Have you heard that 'Who Trolled Amber?' podcast? It's fascinating to hear how bots went after her so hard and the work they do to try and find out who started it and why. Just very interesting and doesn't feel coincidental that JB is working with Depp's team...

Gosh celebs and Hollywood make fascinating PR case studies, they should be taught on university/PR training courses!!

Nanana1 · 16/08/2024 20:02

Aside from the fact that this is a film about DV, the thing that honestly left me reeling was the interview question to BL. This misquotes are my own, along the lines of; what should someone do if they want to discuss the themes of the film with you? (The interviewer clearly wants DV helplines etc.)BL says; what do you want my phone number? Shall I drop my location?

Surely she knew what questions would be asked? That answer was so odd!

TerracottaWorrier · 16/08/2024 20:05

I don't really know about the whole gossip thing, although I've seen all the IG reels and read this thread, but I actually quite like that Blake Lively isn't doing any of the heavy lifting with the DV angle while the man is. DV is perpetuated by men against women. Let them deal with the murky misery of it while we get to wear floral dresses. DV is a men's issue so let them carry the responsibility for it.

notallbloom · 16/08/2024 20:06

FWIW my first H was incredibly abusive and, as we had children, I stayed far too long.

When BL is marketing the movie as a romcom, telling people to wear florals, using it as a way of flogging her hair products and drinks line?
Yes, I have to be honest and say that, no matter the drama between her and JB, she is being incredibly crass and insensitive.

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Covetthee · 16/08/2024 20:08

Her whole promo round of this movie has been completely wrong. She has not shown any compassion to women in those situations, she has been busy promoting her hair brand and her mixers lines (even though she doesnt drink) whereas Justin- all he talks about is the topic of the film

but I’m more concerned about is who thought that this Colleen Hoover novel would be a good idea to make a film. She is the most problematic one in all of this. She wanted to make a colouring book of a movie based on domestic Violence!

She glamorises toxic relationships and she’s a shit writer in general. her son was accused of sexual assault last year and there are rumours that she paid off the girl.

I do wonder how much the media has rammed up the so-called problem between the two main stars to avoid the colleen hoover fallout.

I enjoy the book crowd on social media quite a lot and the genuine readers have been calling her out for this for years

notallbloom · 16/08/2024 20:08

@TerracottaWorrier men can be survivors of DV too.

To anyone asking, yes I have listened to Who Trolled Amber.
Even as I watched the trial I felt very uncomfortable about all of it.

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TerracottaWorrier · 16/08/2024 20:09

notallbloom · 16/08/2024 20:08

@TerracottaWorrier men can be survivors of DV too.

To anyone asking, yes I have listened to Who Trolled Amber.
Even as I watched the trial I felt very uncomfortable about all of it.

Mmmhmmm. How many killed by women so far this year. Did we get to 50 yet?