If we suddenly had to go into a 3 month lockdown again, how would you feel?

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I think people would definitely comply. If it was Mpox I would want a smallpox vaccine as it's somewhat effective.

Oh dear
https://www.itv.com/news/central/2021-02-23/leicester-the-city-thats-suffered-the-longest

Ask single people Plus those up in Leicester

And those in parts or Manchester and Oldham.

No thanks

I like being out and about.
Don’t want to be dictated when / where I can go

I have no idea if a lockdown would happen again or not but I don’t think government public health policy will be dictated by the sorts of right wing racist elements of society if that’s what you’re alluding to.

I can imagine those people would be subject to mandatory quarantine which is what we should have during covid too IMO - people were legally walking off planes at Heathrow from all around the world during the first lockdown and getting on the underground with keyworkers , while I was worried about walking too far from my apartment in south London as I’d heard people getting fined.

Yep The attempt to try and rewrite history is really pathetic

True if we let it get out of hand before a vaccine was found.

So long before that doomsday scenario happened, we'd have LDs.

It was an awful time to be living alone though or even worse - in an abusive relationship or living with toxic family.

Well thats what lead to people starting to question things in Lockdown 1 Being locked down at home while others the more well off were allowed to fly in and out on a whim. And if we are going to talk about the race element then we have to talk about the class element too. While those who could afford it were allowed to fly in and out when they wanted to one of my early memories from Lockdown 1 was a guy on a council estate being told off by a police officer for standing on his own doorstep in his own garden.

None of this is a given.

There's no guarantee a suitable vaccine would be widely accepted by the population. Neither can you assume that people would be willing to lock down for something less serious. This is the 'Goldilocks' thing that's been discussed already in the thread. Lockdown required most people to be scared enough to voluntarily restrict their behaviour, but not so scared that people in jobs that keep society functioning refused to do them. It's a sweet spot. That space is clearly much smaller now than it was in 2020 and 2021. It may not exist at all any more.

It can be passed on via droplets (same as Covid) e.g sneeezing coughing

It was absolutely ridiculous 🤦🏽‍♀️ shortly before the lockdown, they were telling people to avoid non-essential gatherings while continuing to have massive international events like major football matches and crufts. My flatmate went to the latter and I remember being worried she’d catch something and bring it back to me, as a lot of people flew in from Italy for Crufts.

Just seen your edit : yes race and class are important to this discussion and race obviously intersects with class as certain minorities are disproportionately working class and have poorer relations with the police for various reasons. This always stood out to me https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/31/black-people-england-wales-more-likely-issued-pandemic-fines-police-study

”Fines for breaking Covid rules were three times more likely to be handed to black people than white people, and seven times more likely to be issued in the poorest areas than the richest, research commissioned for Britain’s police chiefs has revealed”

horrendous inequality ! And the politicians were having parties 😵‍💫

I would be insubordinate OP. The lockdowns turned out to cause more damage than the disease. I would not be trusting. The “authorities” didn’t know as much as they thought they did. They stifled all debate, when we meeded it most and smeared anyone who questioned them.

This! This! A hundred times this!!

The government well and truly squandered the public's goodwill, and destroyed children's education and mental health, with three lockdowns which caused much more harm than good. If they had stopped at one lockdown, and then conceded that "we cannot control the virus by locking down, we are only destroying the country", and admitted to the massive destruction of businesses and mental health, I would now be respecting the need for lockdown. But no, it was the government spending months and months deliberately frightening the pants off the public (their words, not mine), and Saint Boris pledging the folly of eradicating the virus, at massive, massive cost. And the final nail in the coffin of the public's goodwill was Partygate. Oh, and the fact that Saint Boris is not in prison for lying under oath, and multiple counts of gross misconduct in a public office.

This is exactly why I was deeply suspicious of lockdown. Because the government actively stifled any debate, they had something to hide, which at best was that things were nowhere near as bad as they were telling us. You could watch BBC interviewers interrupting scientists who were about to deviate from the official narrative.

And if it emerges that the "crying nurses" were actually actors (and there were plenty of actors needing work), I will not be at all surprised.

When we had covid lock downs I had a fairly lovingl, sweet 11 year old…. It was a privilege to spend time with him. I now have a rude, grumpy 15 year old, who I still love dearly, but who definitely does not want the company of his parents any more!
I was able to homeschool during lockdown but now I would have a fight on my hands to get him to do anything the school sent home.

i think if we had another situation where we had to lock down, I would be broken by the end or it.

That said, pandemics tend to be once or twice in a century events… so even the MPox issue at the moment isn’t enough to warrant a lock down.

Anyone would think a US presidential election was coming up!

77th brigade testing the water to judge public opinion! 🤔

I work in children’s mental health. We are still dealing with the fallout from the previous lockdowns. We cannot do that again.

WHO blurb about Monkeypox:

People with mpox can become very sick. For example, the skin can become infected with bacteria leading to abscesses or serious skin damage. Other complications include pneumonia, corneal infection with loss of vision; pain or difficulty swallowing, vomiting and diarrhoea causing severe dehydration or malnutrition; sepsis (infection of the blood with a widespread inflammatory response in the body), inflammation of the brain (encephalitis), heart (myocarditis), rectum (proctitis), genital organs (balanitis) or urinary passages (urethritis), or death. Persons with immune suppression due to medication or medical conditions are at higher risk of serious illness and death due to mpox.

Yep, I’d happily go into lockdown to avoid that!

If one does happen it won’t be to stop people dying (about 5% of infected adults and 10% of infected children) it will be to stop people living with the side effects. The country couldn’t cope if a significant number of working adults suddenly became blind or ended up on longterm sick and unable to work.

Sounds horrendous @StarrySkiesAtMidnight I hope governments worldwide can get it under control so it doesn’t escalate.

So you’ve had no qualms about potentially making someone vulnerable extremely ill? Why?

Nope I wouldn't bother this time, I had to work all the way through the last one (nhs)

70% of cases in DRC are children under 15, 62% of deaths from monkeypox in DRC were children under 5 years old.

There may be fewer than 509 deaths, but most of those are kids.

The same non-nefarious government that didn’t follow its own lock down mandates?

I think many would but I wouldn’t. If the people in charge aren’t doing it then I certainly wouldn’t.