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Warning for anyone connecting out of Dublin to fly to USA, don't be me!

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MorrisZapp · 13/08/2024 13:45

I'm a broken human and it's all Aer Lingus's fault. Business trip yesterday Edinburgh to JFK, connecting through Dublin.

Due to weather, my Edinburgh flight was delayed and we landed late in Dublin. Still in time for connection but all travellers to the USA have to go through US Homeland Security in Dublin, and there is no fast track option for late incoming connections.

It took well over an hour to clear US customs, the queues were horrendous and there are four levels of security to clear.

I think ten different people beeped my boarding pass but this means nothing as US security exists to protect the USA, not to help people catch flights.

After a horrific race to the furthest gate in the terminal, I arrived to a closed gate and the staff clearing up. They were kind and sympathetic but I was absolutely not getting on the plane. My bags had been taken off. Other people were in the same situation.

We could not approach Aer Lingus ticketing until to got landside, and we couldn't get landside until we had our bags back, which took an hour. Once we arrived at the ticketing desk there was a queue of desperate and upset travellers ahead of us, all trying to get to the USA. There were further flights out but we couldn't get them because going through homeland security again would have taken too long, and many flights were full anyway.

All they could offer was overnight accommodation with onward travel the next day. This didn't work for me as I'd missed my meeting anyway so I had to get a flight home instead. Edinburgh was full so I took a teatime flight to Glasgow. I got home at 10pm having been in transit from 6am.

I can't explain what it feels like to miss a transatlantic flight, I'm still processing it now. Seeing that closed gate was like the most stressful scene in a film, but it was real and actually happening to me.

Catching connections works until it doesn't. How the fuck Aer Lingus thought I could negotiate their huge, multi level airport and the whole of US security in the time allowed even had my incoming flight been on time was baffling to me. Why they haven't set up support airside for all the people held up like this is a mystery for the ages. Entire families were crying, the staff were helpful but there weren't nearly enough of them and they can't offer solutions that don't exist.

People who don't live near hub airports have no choice but to use connections. I've learned my lesson. I've informed my company that my next journey to the USA will require me to catch a train to London the day before (early, in case of train shenanigans) a night in a Heathrow hotel and a flight out of Heathrow next day.

Don't be me. Don't trust airline's own itineraries for connecting flights, and never fly Dublin to USA unless you are able to arrive at Dublin many hours in advance.

And an extra fuck you to the last US security guy I dealt with. Your utter nastiness made one of the most stressful experiences of my half century on this earth even worse and for what, sir? If you want your country to be safe then ban gun ownership and be civil to middle aged ladies who obey every rule and command asked of them.

Last moan, a pint in Dublin Airport costs seven pounds thirty. Most needed pint of my life. Just.... don't be me.

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Pistachiochiochio · 13/08/2024 13:48

Every time I've had a non-direct flight to somewhere in the US there has been a delay, 80%of the time due to the time taken to clear Homeland Security. I think I would always plan for it now.

BrookGreen54 · 13/08/2024 13:49

‘Never fly Dublin to USA’ 🤣

Dublin US pre-clearance is fantastic if you use it correctly and arrive to the airport on time. We have always breezed through it. Saves so much hassle once you land.

Your connecting flight was delayed OP. It happens. Stop with the entitled moaning.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 13/08/2024 13:54

Dublin can be a nightmare. Shannon is so much better. You fly through everything in comparison and they also have the US pre-clearance, which is a godsend stateside.

I don't know do Aer Lingus fly from Scotland to Shannon but RyanAir definitely do but you would have to transfer your own bags if you have check-in luggage. Definitely worth it if you only have carry on.

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FawnFrenchieMum · 13/08/2024 13:56

My company uses Dublin as a connecting airport for business travel often. 95% of the time it works fine but yes on occasion we have people having to do a stay over due to missed connections. It happens, no need for the movie dramatics.

TudorClock · 13/08/2024 13:58

I've missed a few connections in my time. I find Amsterdam Schiphol the worst for this.

I'm not sure if your post is supposed to be tongue in cheek and didn't quite hit the mark, but if this is really one of the most stressful things you've experienced in fifty years, you've had a very blessed time of it

PoodlesRUs · 13/08/2024 13:59

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Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 13/08/2024 14:01

Sounds like a nightmare OP. I have never done this but flew Ireland to US where we didn't have pre clearance, I can't remember why. The queues at the other end were horrendous and we were 2 hours or so with a hyper toddler with really unfriendly security guards.

It sounds like aer lingus didn't account for this delay, by all means make a complaint but I'll say you'll get nowhere given the drama of recent weeks, I'm sure they are inundated with compensation claims.

BloodyAdultDC · 13/08/2024 14:06

Last time I transited through Dublin (Manchester/Dublin/Orlando) it took 18 minutes to get off the first plane, downstairs, through immigration and into the waiting area for the connecting plane (parked next to the first one).

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Life is shit sometimes OP, if this broke you, as pp said, time for you to re-evaluate.

It's mental of your company to expect transatlantic travel for one meeting. The cost alone, never mind time taken is absurd. TEAMS is a thing...?

Flossflower · 13/08/2024 14:07

My neighbour travels regularly to JFK for business. He always advises going through Dublin because clearing security there takes much less time than it does when you land at JFK.

ChildlessCatLady · 13/08/2024 14:08

How much time did Aer Lingus allocate for you to change flights and get through US clearance? I recently flew Johannesburg > Abu Dhabi > New York and went through US security at Abu Dhabi. They allocated four hours, and in fact would not allow an itinerary to the USA with less buffer! That included rerouting on delayed flights with missed connections. But the security itself actually took about forty minutes.

I think ten different people beeped my boarding pass ... sorry, no idea what this means.

SidekickSylvia · 13/08/2024 14:20

What a nightmare. I've missed a connecting flight before, and arriving at that closed gate is a real punch. Mine wasn't nearly as stressful as it was a holiday and the connection was JFK to Virginia, so there was another flight a couple of hours later, but the itinerary was impossible; 85 minutes at JFK. 85 minutes to clear security, collect my luggage and then drop it off again, at a busy, huge airport. I kept thinking that it must be doable, as I ran around the airport, or it wouldn't have been the only option, but it wasn't.

MrsCarson · 13/08/2024 14:22

I've gone though US homeland security in Dublin, but we didn't arrive on a connecting flight. We were there after a few days in Dublin on the way to US.
I think your beef should be with the connecting flight, not Homeland security.

MorrisZapp · 13/08/2024 14:23

My boarding pass was beeped at every stage of the connection process. Scanned, I mean. So they knew I was there and they knew my flight status.

I am broken today because I am exhausted and deflated. I took a valium for flying then beer in the airport because of the stress. Not a sensible combination but I had to get through it. My life isn't broken and I'm sorry if it came across that way!

My business trip was actually for a court appearance (I'm not a criminal! Professional capacity) and NY court rules prohibit online testimony.

I did manage to chill out once I'd got over the shock and in fact I witnessed the Irish Olympic team arriving to huge applause. The pint was very refreshing and almost everyone I spoke to was delightful but yes, I do think missing a transatlantic flight is extremely stressful. It won't matter a week from now but there are knock on professional costs, hassles and rescheduling nightmares all to be dealt with.

I don't want anyone else to have a day like I did yesterday! Hence the somewhat dramatic description. Sorry.

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HectorPlasm · 13/08/2024 14:23

When I flew a lot with BA (Manchester to Heathrow and then beyond usually), I always changed the Manchester - Heathrow flight they gave me to an earlier one and delayed the reverse one it coming back. Bitten too many times!

MorrisZapp · 13/08/2024 14:25

Aer Lingus allocated 1.5 hours connection time. It would have been extremely tight even without the incoming delay. They aren't strangers to the US security protocol and they shouldn't have offered that flight combo.

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Lovemycat2023 · 13/08/2024 14:26

We had a similar stressful situation in Paris. We had a through ticket and had to get the bus from one airport to the other. It was clearly tight, but there was no way to book a longer connecting time on the same ticket (I would have been happier sat in an airport for 4 hours). We had to run through the airport with luggage on the way home.

It’s put me off flying to the same destination again, and we tried to book separate tickets so more time to change but it cost almost twice as much.

OP - there’s something about the airport situation itself that makes it more stressful that it otherwise would be. I swear it’s watching too many films where it happens!

MorrisZapp · 13/08/2024 14:27

Flossflower · 13/08/2024 14:07

My neighbour travels regularly to JFK for business. He always advises going through Dublin because clearing security there takes much less time than it does when you land at JFK.

Good shout. But if it's busy it still takes longer than a tight connection allows. Travellers without incoming connections who know what to expect are served perfectly by the system.

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DataPup · 13/08/2024 14:28

Dublin US pre-clearance is fantastic if you use it correctly and arrive to the airport on time. We have always breezed through it. Saves so much hassle once you land.

That's always been my experience too. But it sounds like the op didn't have much choice about her arrival time.

Gooseysgirl · 13/08/2024 14:30

Argh!!!! That sounds awful. It doesn't put me off that route though - most of the time it works very well. I always fly through Dublin to the States - immigration queues on the other side are far far worse!

MorrisZapp · 13/08/2024 14:31

SidekickSylvia · 13/08/2024 14:20

What a nightmare. I've missed a connecting flight before, and arriving at that closed gate is a real punch. Mine wasn't nearly as stressful as it was a holiday and the connection was JFK to Virginia, so there was another flight a couple of hours later, but the itinerary was impossible; 85 minutes at JFK. 85 minutes to clear security, collect my luggage and then drop it off again, at a busy, huge airport. I kept thinking that it must be doable, as I ran around the airport, or it wouldn't have been the only option, but it wasn't.

Exactly! All these other people seem to be managing so sure, it'll be fine. Nope 😊

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SwedishEdith · 13/08/2024 14:31

I want to know what the last US security guy said to you.

BrookGreen54 · 13/08/2024 14:34

DataPup · 13/08/2024 14:28

Dublin US pre-clearance is fantastic if you use it correctly and arrive to the airport on time. We have always breezed through it. Saves so much hassle once you land.

That's always been my experience too. But it sounds like the op didn't have much choice about her arrival time.

OP could have booked an earlier flight. I certainly do if I know that I have a connection to make.

MorrisZapp · 13/08/2024 14:34

MrsCarson · 13/08/2024 14:22

I've gone though US homeland security in Dublin, but we didn't arrive on a connecting flight. We were there after a few days in Dublin on the way to US.
I think your beef should be with the connecting flight, not Homeland security.

My beef is with Aer Lingus, an Irish airline who know exactly how long clearance takes and did not allow me and lots of other passengers enough time.

OK I slagged that one guy off, he was the only rude person I dealt with all day. Aer Lingus staff were courteous, none of it was their fault.

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longdistanceclaraclara · 13/08/2024 14:41

I.5 hours was ambitious at the best of times. You could have got an earlier flight. Lesson learnt. We always go through Dublin to USA

MorrisZapp · 13/08/2024 14:41

SwedishEdith · 13/08/2024 14:31

I want to know what the last US security guy said to you.

He didn't say anything that wasn't in his script. It was the way he said it, with anger and suspicion in his voice, and absolutely no please or thank you. Oh dear I'm going to be accused of drama again, ah well. It was the crap icing on the shit cake, that's all.

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