Thread 4 Starmer: Fighting back with brooms and community.

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Well it’s one thing to ruck with the police. But presumably anyone inside the hotel will not be padded up or similarly protected.

Dunno about this Starmer announcement. I know actually that they can take much harder measures but… and it’s a rather big issue, it’s not very palatable to take them. That is where the State uses more than ordinary police power to manage riots. I don’t want to see it, because these rioters will pasted. And even if they are racists, we still all have to live together afterwards. If they are beaten then eventually it will escalate in the future.

Fuck off!

And I don't care if I get deleted for that

I won’t report you so you probably won’t. But seriously, why is somebody so surprised people would comment on a prime minister’s speech?

I have a few of my own ideas about what should be done with these rioters.

Don't be ridiculous. However, as I've already said, I really have little interest in what you have to say.

And fuelled by the media, Farage, Tice, Anderson and the likes of Wotton, Fox et al.

Don't you think that right now, with the possibility of the fucking far right actually murdering people, the UK population, regardless of their political allegiances, should stand with the government right now?

I expect you'll be asked for proof of that 🙄

Yep already a thread about Yvette Cooper's statement

I've always been gutted you can't get dragibus sweets in the U.K. loved them when we holidayed in france!

That'll be the Shadow Welsh Secretary replying. Fine upstanding man that he is.

Did you stand with the Tory government when they rightly supported Ukraine? You can agree with them on a singular topic without having to fawn over and ‘stand with’ them.

I've just read a news report they blocked the exits with bins and tried to set the hotel alight.

This is getting out of hand now (more so than just out of hand iyswim?)

They are actually trying to burn hotels they suspect are housing migrants.

On the topic of Eurofoods I found a little corner shop today that sells my favourite Eurocrisps!

Arson with intent to endanger life carries a maximum term of life imprisonment.

"This is not a protest, it is organised, violent thuggery and it has no place on our streets or online,"

That should take a few of them off the streets.

Arson with intent to endanger life carries a maximum term of life imprisonment.

Are those the peanut flavoured ones?

I don't know if this is true, but I hope so;

Liam Cello
@mrliamcello
NEW: Premier League clubs liaising with local authorities to levy “up to 5 year bans” on identified ticket holders engaging in social disorder this week. Both Everton and Liverpool “engaging at a high level” with Merseyside Police, and Newcastle Utd committing too. 1/2.
All three clubs have been in touch with respective legal teams this weekend and keen to send a message of support to their communities in prohibiting violent / abusive offenders into their grounds. Newcastle “very keen to send message”. A bold move. More to follow. Liam 2/2.

I don’t think some of them realise the sentences they will be in for

Deleted because I think @prettybird has the right idea.

YES! I love them so much

I need to remind myself that I won't engage with bad faith posters

I'm no fan of Starmer (as most of you here know ) but I think he's being suitably assertive and statesmanlike on this. It's right call out far right thuggery. I saw someone trying to say it's Labour's "fault" because they blocked Rwandan legislation (when the Conservatives had a working majority ) which is really grasping at straws

I feel so, so sorry for the friends and family of the three girls that were murdered in Southport . Their tragedy has been hijacked by thugs. These riots are not helping them Leave them to grieve in peace.

Have the tories said much about the riots or are they keeping their tinder dry (not sure that’s the right expression). I guess they encouraged the whole situation with their inflammatory comments but now they’re trying to appear ‘reasonable’….