Thread 3 Starmer: Digging has started, bigger shovel required

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I've just seen this.

Just awful.

That's horrible

THEY PAID THEIR TAXES
Bloody lazy workshy junior doctors and their avocado obsession

Do I have it about right?

This is an example Ridiculous caving in to junior doctors who do very little work now!! The NHS is unfortunately doomed and is turning into a clock on clock off mentality. Where has the professionalism gone?

It is terrible news.

Reeves says she's uncovered £22 billion of unfunded commitments by the previous Conservative administration, meaning a 25% budget deficit this year.

"They had exhausted the reserve, and they knew that - but nobody else did."

They claimed the books were open. "How dare they."

Since the election Hunt has admitted they couldn't afford to offer more tax cuts - the truth is we couldn't afford the ones we've already had.

Rachel Reeves says the last government overspent on the asylum budget by £6.4bn and the transport budget by £1.6bn

The OBR was not aware of these figures, she tells MP

Extraordinary figures

Given pressures on public spending and borrowing those £20bn in NI cuts never looked like good economics.

x.com/pjtheeconomist/status/1817868401580048603?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Johnson a Director at the IFS.

I really enjoyed the Chancellor's Statement (can't often say that). Of course the news is terrible but she explained it all clearly and with passion. Now listening to the Shadow Chancellor.

He lives up the name he was given, where you swap the first letter of his surname with a C.

I suppose he did the best he could in the circumstances. His arguments seemed tired and misleading.

Robust response from Rachel Reeves - but interrupted by yet more shocking news.

Jesus.🤦‍♀️

Considerable support for government (and retribution for ex-government) from Sarah Olney (Liberal Democrat spokeswoman). She brought up the Cost of Living crisis and the effect of NHS waiting times on productivity. Conservatives looked shocked.

OBR have apparently confirmed that that they weren't fully informed on the state of finances.

Maybe Paul Johnson will wind his neck in and stop politicking now. He looks a complete fool this afternoon. I’m really surprised Reeves isn’t proposing reversing the Tories’ NI cuts but I suppose she can’t after promising NI wouldn’t go up. Absolutely disgusting on Hunt’s part, he must have known they were unaffordable.

https://x.com/faisalislam/status/1817942339068862806?t=z0G5MwW1nCphpWNiMj65lA&s=19

NEW OBR letter backs up Chancellor:

“We were made aware of the extent of these pressures at a meeting with the
Treasury last week. .. could “constitute one of the largest year-
ahead overspends against DEL forecasts outside of the pandemic years”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgr49q591go

What is wrong with men

Good grief. It can only have been a fairly massive cover up.

No wonder Sunak and hunt look chipper.

Pretty much everything, CassieMaddox, hell's bells, so much grimness. Thanks for the extra cats everyone, a delight in a sad world.

The government has announced the following pay rises for public sector workers

• 6% for Armed Forces
• 5.5% for NHS workers and teachers
• 5% for prison officers
• 4.75% for police officers

5.5 is at the top end of what we were expecting in my Trust. It'll be welcome and will make quite a difference in my pay packet. Especially since it'll come backdated to April in a nice lump sum. I'm pleased, this feels sensible and realistic.

No words

Two children dead, nine injured and six critical after today's horror attack in Southport

Two adults also critical

It’s just horrendous, isn’t it.