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Lowerechelons · 26/07/2024 09:04

Brefugee · 26/07/2024 08:46

thanks. I want to ask them specifically about the reason for his mild sentence, because it doesn't fit their narrative. His sentence was actually laughably short.

That was the British courts, not the Dutch Olympic Committee

LadyKenya · 26/07/2024 09:05

So it would seem that in Paula's eyes steroid abuse "contested" is more serious than raping a child? I await to see how what she has said will affect her going forward. Ps, it won't.

Brokenpebbles · 26/07/2024 09:08

LadyKenya · 26/07/2024 09:01

What has Tom Daley done, or H?

Tom Daley paid for a baby using a surrogate.

S1lverCandle · 26/07/2024 09:09

Brokenpebbles · 26/07/2024 09:08

Tom Daley paid for a baby using a surrogate.

Ah, yes...

Asabat · 26/07/2024 09:11

MrsFarmerTom · 26/07/2024 08:57

I think he was sentenced for 4 years per offence, so 12 years in total. (According to Tom Swarbrick on LBC yesterday)

Oh really? Bloody hell. He still only served a year though in NL?

I'm so used to pathetic sentences for rape, I thought four years was likely.

Lowerechelons · 26/07/2024 09:15

Asabat · 26/07/2024 09:11

Oh really? Bloody hell. He still only served a year though in NL?

I'm so used to pathetic sentences for rape, I thought four years was likely.

The Dutch have a very different view on sexual offences to we do in UK. They have this image of being all liberal, but what that really means is they have state sponsored exploitation of women and children.

"Under a treaty between the Netherlands and UK, Van de Velde was transferred to the Netherlands to serve his sentence. The sentence was at that time adjusted in line with Dutch law, and the charge of rape was substituted for that of fornication.After serving a year of his original four year sentence, he was released from prison."

PeachPairPlum · 26/07/2024 09:16

SureJanOK · 25/07/2024 23:35

I have added her to my list of "most hated celebs" who have zero morals. She is in good company along with:

Fern Britton
Philip Schofield
Ant McPartlin
H from Steps
Tom Daley
Prince Andrew

Whsts Fern Britten Done? Or H. Or Ant McCartney?

Ophy83 · 26/07/2024 09:16

SureJanOK · 25/07/2024 23:35

I have added her to my list of "most hated celebs" who have zero morals. She is in good company along with:

Fern Britton
Philip Schofield
Ant McPartlin
H from Steps
Tom Daley
Prince Andrew

I'm glad I'm not alone to have H from Steps on a list! I was apoplectic after listening to him being interviewed on a podcast

LadyKenya · 26/07/2024 09:16

Brokenpebbles · 26/07/2024 09:08

Tom Daley paid for a baby using a surrogate.

Oh right. Not going to comment any further as this thread is not about that. But it is a moral issue, as opposed to a legal issue, I take it.

Lowerechelons · 26/07/2024 09:18

LadyKenya · 26/07/2024 09:16

Oh right. Not going to comment any further as this thread is not about that. But it is a moral issue, as opposed to a legal issue, I take it.

The tread is about a moral issue too. Legally, he has served his time.

Daley is also a big trans activist of the most unpleasant kind, but I have some sympathy beciase I think he was groomed at a very vulnerable time in his life. I still don't think he should be given the voice that he is.

Howdoesitworkagain · 26/07/2024 09:18

Here to find out why the hate for Fern, Ant and H as well. Didn’t know about Tom until PP explained.

FrenchandSaunders · 26/07/2024 09:27

Presumably he is on the sex offenders register, so why is he allowed to stay in the olympic accommodation where, presumably, there will be young girls staying/competing?

Beth216 · 26/07/2024 09:29

Tom is also in the TWAW camp and strongly believes that biological men should be allowed to compete in women's elite sports.

I don't know what PR was thinking with her comments, I don't know how this disgusting man only served one year, I don't understand what the Dutch Olympic selection committee are thinking, I don't understand any of it.

If this guy really was a changed character then surely he wouldn't even attempt to put himself forward for the Olympics. He was told it was all over for him and yet he was pretty much straight back to it as soon as he got out. That takes some arrogance - and a complete disregard for the impact him competing in the public eye is going to have on his victim. How is that a changed man? Selfish and entitled more like.

WeaselCheeks · 26/07/2024 09:29

Howdoesitworkagain · 26/07/2024 09:18

Here to find out why the hate for Fern, Ant and H as well. Didn’t know about Tom until PP explained.

Not sure if H (whose name is Ian Watkins) is being confused with Ian Watkins of thelostprophets? The latter is serving 29 years in prison, and is a serial paedophile - started off with 14 year old fans, and worked his way down the age brackets.

Police really dragged their heels in investigating him, instead repeatedly dismissing his ex as being a 'crazy ex persecuting her famous boyfriend' when she reported his activities. When she went to them with solid proof, they arrested her for possession of child abuse images.

Not quite sure H has ever done owt quite that bad...

But yeah, in this case I'm appalled that any nation would want a child rapist representing them. Bloody hell.

Brokenpebbles · 26/07/2024 09:33

H was another man who paid a woman to have babies for him.

WeaselCheeks · 26/07/2024 09:33

From Wikipedia:

"In March 2016, Van de Velde pleaded guilty at Aylesbury Crown Court to three counts of child rape, specifically the charge of "rape of a child under the age of 13". The judge sentenced Van de Velde to four years' imprisonment and placed him on the Violent and Sex Offender Register for life.[9] During his sentencing remarks, the judge stated, "Your hopes of representing your country [as an Olympic athlete] now lie as a shattered dream" and "He [Van de Velde] has lost a stellar sports career and has been branded a rapist. Plainly it is a career end for him".

Optimistic judge, there...

Violent and Sex Offender Register - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_and_Sex_Offender_Register

S1lverCandle · 26/07/2024 09:34

Tom is also in the TWAW camp
Yet he knew exactly what "type" of woman to commission a baby from.
Funny, that.

GailBlancheViola · 26/07/2024 09:34

To be fair to any PR person involved, she was so clear in her answer (and gave additional facts which showed clearly that she knew the case that was being talked about) that I don't see how anyone could reasonably walk it back in a way that was convincing.

Exactly, Paula Radcliffe was crystal clear in what she was saying, she knew all the details and referenced them, trying to scrabble around now to deny what she said or didn't mean it like that is utterly pathetic she meant every word.

Due to knowledge about Paula's behaviour in a particular instance I have never been a fan of her but even I never thought she'd stoop this low.

You said it Paula, you meant it just own up that you are excusing a paedophile rapist's crimes and couldn't give a shiny shit about the poor girl who is the victim.

Deipara · 26/07/2024 09:35

StaunchMomma · 25/07/2024 01:07

That little girl he raped will be a young adult now. I cannot imagine how she will feel, seeing this.

But apparently we're not supposed to think of her and need to make space for him to 'make something of himself'.

Men really should fear women ever taking power.

We'd have their balls off without a second thought and fuck their 'rehabilitation' and their second chances.

Not all women would cut their balls off....I mean Paula Radcliffe for one...

Lowerechelons · 26/07/2024 09:36

FrenchandSaunders · 26/07/2024 09:27

Presumably he is on the sex offenders register, so why is he allowed to stay in the olympic accommodation where, presumably, there will be young girls staying/competing?

He's not staying in the village

https://www.upmatters.com/2024-olympics/dutch-athlete-convicted-of-child-rape-wont-stay-in-olympic-village/

Beth216 · 26/07/2024 09:38

Howdoesitworkagain · 26/07/2024 09:18

Here to find out why the hate for Fern, Ant and H as well. Didn’t know about Tom until PP explained.

Ant drunk drove and hit two other vehicles, with seemingly no consequences to his career. His wife that he'd been with for 20 years who supported him through it was then dumped for his PA.
I don't know about Fern, maybe because she had a year long affair with a married man?

Zebedee999 · 26/07/2024 09:41

I can accept that thieves etc can be reformed but a paedophile, imo, cannot be reformed. You like what you like when it comes to sexual preferences and you can't rewire your brain not to like what you like. It's inappropriate imo for him to be representing their country.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 26/07/2024 09:42

FrenchandSaunders · 26/07/2024 09:27

Presumably he is on the sex offenders register, so why is he allowed to stay in the olympic accommodation where, presumably, there will be young girls staying/competing?

The offences took place in the UK, so presumably he's on the sex offenders register here. But it's not an international register. He lives in the Netherlands and is competing in France.

He should be banned from the Olympica and from professional sport altogether

Beefcurtains79 · 26/07/2024 09:50

I watched it open mouthed. She knew exactly what she was talking about, and steadfast defended him.
I wont watch anything with her commentating on, paedophile apologist.

KohlaParasaurus · 26/07/2024 09:51

I'm not all that surprised to find myself disappointed by Paula Radcliffe again, but I am quite shocked that she's been prepared to express support for a child rapist, whether because she believes he did nothing wrong or because her reading of the room was that it would be expedient for her career/public image to say what she did.

Whatever the motivation, I'm pleased that she's issued a prompt acknowledgement that this was not OK.