Another child urinated on DS

[Gasbard]

At pick up earlier on 7yo DS came out of school in a pair of shorts. The teacher said “his pants are in his bag, they have wee on them” I thought that’s strange for DS to have had an accident, but nope a boy in year 5 (DS is in year 3) had purposefully urinated all over his pants while DS was in the toilets. It took me a while to get it out of DS as he doesn’t like trouble but DS said the boy pointed his penis at him and then urinated on him. Apparently the boy then said “ooops sorry I can’t control where it goes” then started laughing.

Not only am I fuming that this has happened, but also that the teacher didn’t tell me what had happened. According to another parent this boy has form for bullying and name calling.

I need to go into school tomorrow don’t I?

This is a perfect response

Tonight I would write down the exact words used by DS, the teacher and the words DS said the older boy said. Write down times as well.

My DS was assaulted in a different but not unrelated way on the last week of term and I was so angry and shocked I found it difficult to relay all the important information in a calm rational way. Headteacher was aware the entire day and never thought it important to pull me aside and have a conversation in the 3 times I was at the school that day. I feel quite disgusted at the way a serious situation was handled and DS will be moving school over the holidays.

I'd like to believe that your DSs teacher isn't aware of the incident however I still feel that the incident is serious enough to warrant a conversation with the headteacher. I felt the school were quite closed off which I can understand due to the safeguarding nature however my concern was what were the school going to put in place to keep my DS safe?

Year 2 is KS1. KS2 is years 3-6.

And you have year 3, year 4, year 5, and year 6 all taught in one class? That’s an unusual arrangement. Is that a massive class of 100 children, or do you only have 7 children in each year?

Yes I'm well aware if which year groups are KS1 and KS2. The OP stated in her first post her son was Y3. I have Y3s in my current class who are still 7.

And yes, all of KS2 in one class. Some year groups in my school have 10 pupils, some have 3. It is uncommon nationally but far from unheard of in rural areas. There are at least 10 schools of a similar size within a 30 minute drive.

I'd want a meeting with his parents.

@Copperoliverbear that wouldn’t be a good idea

I would be going to the school , Ofsted and safeguarding and the police
This is disgusting and it needs flagging

How did it go this morning OP?

I had to get a relative to take DS to school this morning as other DS isn’t well but I phoned the office and they said they’ll let the head teacher know and someone will be in touch. An hour later I got a phone call from the office asking me if I could send them an email explaining what had happened according to DS

I hope you email and show up.
I would be expecting the teacher to have no idea, if they did then I would be really disgusted.
Your poor child, how revolting and degrading.
I hope the school can assure him it will never be OK to put up with such revolting behaviour by a peer.

That's a good update OP, sounds like a pretty fast response from the school, I hope they get this sorted quickly.

Even dogs don't behave like that, so this behaviour is absolutely disgusting.

It's a safeguarding issue, your son would have been drenched in body fluids and god help him if he was clinically vulnerable, which I hope he is'nt.

The enebriate that did it needs to be dealt with appropriately.

Every time I see a thread like this I'm reminded why I home educate my DC.

It sounds like they are very much taking it seriously and are investigating what happened. @Gasbard I hope they get back to you soon and have thought about how to protect and support DS going forward.

I’m relieved that they seem to be taking it seriously

So am I the pisser sounds like a highly disturbed individual who needs an intervention

He's parents ain't going to be decent people that's a huge red flag of deep deep issues in the boys life

So the teacher pulled me aside this morning. Apparently it was an “accident” I mean I don’t see how you could wee on somebody by accident. I have spoken to 3 parents now who have all had issues with this child. One of the parents daughter was getting bullied by him last year. Apparently he smacked her across the head and said “you belong in the kitchen you white bitch” and would call her names everyday. Another parents child used to get called names by him too and another parent told me he pushed her year 2 son to the floor.
So I’m not confident at all that it was an accident.

Op, if you're not happy with the outcome then ask to speak to the head teacher.

Make sure however you solely stick to what happened to your child and not the other children.

For context, the toilets are often very busy and it can happen that a child wees on another child. If they turn suddenly while seeing or turn to chat and aren't thinking.

Obviously I'm not saying it absolutely was an accident, just providing information about how it can happen as an accident.

I wouldn't be happy at all with them passing this off as 'an accident'. This particular child is building a track record of being a bully and it needs to be stamped out now!
I would go back to the school, ask them what they are planning on doing to keep my child safe at all times. They have a duty of care and probably have an anti-bullying policy that you should read and a safeguarding policy too. They are currently failing your child, the other kids that were preyed on by this bully and the bully too. They need to be doing more.

There is something going on in that child’s life that isn’t good.

I would take it up with HT, mention safeguarding. Don’t ask what they are going to do with other child. Problem is very hard to police toilets, and depending on number of toilets hard to segregate ages.

Are you able to check with these parents whether all of these incidents are known by the school? If they're not known, please request that the parents report them in writing, even if some time has elapsed since the incidents. Schools do need to know these things so that they can support any action they might subsequently seek to take.

As a minimum I would be asking for clarification regarding the term "accident". You have your son's version of events and I'm assuming there was a bit more than just a splash. I'd be asking for a meeting with the head and possibly escalating to the governors if still not happy.

Apparently he smacked her across the head and said “you belong in the kitchen you white bitch” and would call her names everyday.

That is disgusting, actually made me gasp reading it and I thought I’d heard it all.
Something needs to be done about this child — and where are these things coming from, can only be home surely— I think every parent has to put a complaint in writing each time copied to the chair of governors.

@Allthehorsesintheworld complaints need to follow the complaints policy. Really complicates things if governors get involved too early