Labour victory feels flat - just me?

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I seem to remember after the 1997 landslide the country was on a real high for days - this feels like an anti-climax. Is it just me?

@Floccinaucinihilipilificationisworthless

Ah you’ll be fine.

I’m not stopping with anything. It’s going to stop itself.

just because it was bad because we had wankers in charge, doesn’t mean it can’t get a whole lot worse.

and by my reckoning we’re back to the late 1960’s and it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

anyway, I’m bored and going to the pub, night!

I celebrated in 1997 - different times, the economy was in a much better place...and in the end I was disappointed with Blair so much more cautious now. People stuck in the 'labour will spend and borrow too much.' mode - We will see. I am glad the Tory party has gone. Also social media, MN is full of people who know very little, probably didn't even vote talking about how bad it will be - we are going to feel flat.

Well you could say Tories lost it but you could equally look at is as

Politics these days makes more use of polling, data projections than ever before.

Labour knew they were ahead in the polls by some distance and have focussed campaigns and targeted seats extremely effectively.

The end result is more seats than 97. Maybe it was done with more pragmatism and competence than flair but arguably that's what the country needs now.

Johnson was a showman lacking principles, ethics or any sense of responsibility / duty. Look how that worked out.

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I feel like we might be finally be able to breathe out and relax, after the constant shit show and scandals.

Looking at the minister appointments it does seem like he’s actually putting in people with experience, and I’m starting to feel joy.
Last night and this morning was just relief rather than elation.

Starmer is going to start a war? He seems so mild mannered.

I didn’t know if iIts was just because I’m older….I remember being elated in 1997 a real feeling of optimism and it felt like it was everywhere.

donr get me wrong, I’m delighted there are grown ups back in power…but just feels like I’ve seen it all before now.

Oh yes as you’ve said ;)

So your issue is with higher band tax increases.

Are you contradicting yourself a little with the parallel complaint that ‘people are taking more out than they’re putting in’

Are you aware that there are other more successful nations such as Germany who actually tax more? (And have a higher, more aspirational standard of living and more access to opportunity).

Do you also think Labour will manage to outdo Liz Truss and Brexit on damage to the economy and cost to the taxpayer? And on division within the country?

Do you think our weakest are currently taken care of? Do you think the weakest will be worse off under Labour?

The difference is that in 1997 Labour hadn’t been in since Jim Callaghan, had moved leftward after that - Michael Foot 🙄 - and lost 4 in a row. It wasn’t obvious in 1992 that Labour could ever be elected again. Hence Blair’s NEW Labour.

Since then there’ve been 13 years of Labour and five of coalition. Corbyn fucked up Labour for a while, and the fungus of the Labour left can always break out again, but people now expect Labour to be a centrist option.

There’s no great enthusiasm for a party most expect to be basically left-Tory but hopefully more competent.

I fully expect the major problems to be as far beyond Labour to solve as they were beyond the Tories. We’ve kicked out one government and we’ll kick out this one, probably after two terms.

The Labour Party in 1997 presented as though it had a philosophy, there was much chat about Anthony Giddens and the “third way”. Now it’s just “they can’t be as bad as that other fucking lot”. In terms of anthems, is more Agadoo than TCOGB.

@IClaudine 'Starmer is going to start a war? He seems so mild mannered' - you made my night!

As previous posters have mentioned, one of the "grown ups" in charge believes men can grow a cervix. 🤦‍♀️

At least Keir Starmer has a moral compass. Look at Boris and his calculated skullduggery and the self-serving acts of Rishi’s cronies. Awful people with zero humanity. Think Priti Patel & Suella Braverman and that contemptible Jacob Rees-Mogg, schoolboy bully that he is. Nasty pieces of work all of them

@Coughsweet In terms of anthems, is more Agadoo than TCOGB.

😂😂😂😂😂

It was mentioned on one of the Election programmes through the night .When a Labour win result came through there wasn't much jubilation with the candidates.

Hard to escape the feeling that nothing will change. We've just swapped one shower of shite for another

I don't like this far right drift which is going on in more countries than this one.

Labour's vote hasn't increased. Keir Starmer went from 36,000 votes in 2019 to 18,000 this year. Roughly 20% of the eligible voting age population voted for Labour this time around. The rest went to Tories, LibDem, Greens and Reform. Tories should have stood down in some places, but instead decided to absorb some of the Reform votes. Also 18,000 less people turned out to vote this time in Starmer's constituency of Holborn and St. Pancras. He got 56,000 in 2019. Google the numbers and do the comparisons. People can lie, numbers cannot.

Very flat. Feels like we've swapped one out of touch elite for another. 1997 was different. I was overcome by sadness today and cried.

The rise of reform has taken the shine right off. That, and the fact I don't think labour will have enough time to undo the mess the tories have created. People appear to have a lot more patience for the tories' fuck ups.

I work in a school. Kids saying they want to vote reform appears to have become an acceptable way to be racist; often against their fellow students. But of course, teachers have to be impartial. I too, feel cheated off the joy of 97. But then, all I'd known up to 97 was a tory gov and poverty.

Blair's victory was so massive in 1997 that it didn't look legitimate. It's great to win loads of seats, but it comes with the risk of the opposition being so small that the winning party will look ridiculous.

No, I'm pleased. We're just cynical now because of Obama and Blair hype.

It's been a lovely sunny day where I live and lots of people smiling in Tesco earlier!
Also - they had no bananas!

Which war do you mean, and why will it be Labour's fault?

No excitement here. Tories are out which is good but so many doubts about Labour, coupled with the worrying rise of the far right.

My work involved several groups of people today, stereotypically middle class and well educated. Not one person mentioned the election, I think they are either bored by it or have other day to day concerns.

To be honest I am more excited by this evening's heavy rain on my garden and plans with family tomorrow.