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Labour victory feels flat - just me?

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Rafting2022 · 05/07/2024 18:26

I seem to remember after the 1997 landslide the country was on a real high for days - this feels like an anti-climax. Is it just me?

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summershere99 · 05/07/2024 19:40

I feel relief and quiet optimism - it doesn't really matter why they got in, but I do feel considerably brighter and more hopeful than I did in 2019. It feels good to have stability and people in office who are not a bunch of privately-educated toffs. I'm also feeling very grateful for our democratic process and the fact that no-one is disputing the validity of these election results or attempting to take power by force.

KnickerlessParsons · 05/07/2024 19:41

Just over 50% of eligible voters voted, and of that 50+%, only about 35% voted for Labour.
Ergo something like 80% (I haven't done the maths, just a guess) of the entire population are either:
•to young to care and have no vote
•just don't care and didn't bother voting
•voted for a different party

Hence no great celebration.

EasternStandard · 05/07/2024 19:41

BeaRF75 · 05/07/2024 18:54

That'll be because only 36% of the electorate voted for them!

This and general expectation of the Labour gov we have rather than a 90s time capsule

But I’ll see what happens with it all. The policies and outcomes

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Farting · 05/07/2024 19:41

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 19:38

He wanted out. He’s loaded anyway, and there’s a good chance we’re going to war and that doesn’t fit with his Hindu morals. Mine neither actually.

So why not just stand down? Now he has half his own party wanting to kill him.

All of which suits me fine. It's not my party and it's helped the other side. Nevertheless, I'd like to hear his explanation.

His ego wouldn’t let him walk away, he had to put up the pretence of a fight.

A pathetic one, it has to be said, but enough to save his ego.

Upupandaway10 · 05/07/2024 19:42

Rafting2022 · 05/07/2024 18:36

Yeah feels like a Tory defeat rather than a Labour win.

Yeah agree

Cuppapuppa · 05/07/2024 19:43

*Because too many are taking from the system and not enough are contributing.

Demographics have changed

Theu don’t have any choice but to tax the money that’s moving round the system, and most of that is from people in work.

We are all going to have to pay more tax but it can’t just come from income, there aren’t enough workers. And of course no one wants to pay.

LiterallyOnFire · 05/07/2024 19:43

Maybe that's it @Farting

TheYearOfSmallThings · 05/07/2024 19:44

The weather is gloomy and we are not as young and optimistic as we were in 1997. I'm just relieved Labour won, but not expecting any miracles.

SparrowFeet · 05/07/2024 19:44

I'm absolutely delighted to have a labour government despite voting Lib Dem as there was just no point voting for our labour candidate here - it would have split the vote and labour and lib dem knew that. That's why they didn't campaign against each other.

They're facing an uphill battle but it's uphill at least.

Lindylou57 · 05/07/2024 19:45

Scared for the future I have daughters, granddaughters we need safe places for women

BusyCM · 05/07/2024 19:46

I genuinely don't understand those who thought things were going well with the Conservatives in charge?

SparrowFeet · 05/07/2024 19:48

I agree @Lindylou57 and it's the one area I had to concede on given it's the one area the Tories got right. But we couldn't have gone on with that mess of a government. Or at least I couldn't.

SnapdragonToadflax · 05/07/2024 19:49

Laiste · 05/07/2024 18:47

Not one single person i've interacted with today has mentioned the election. (worked in school with parents, been to shops, 3 adult kids of my own)

DH did mutter something about it when he turned the telly on at 6 this morning and there was no news or bloody weather just wall to wall election coverage. So he turned it off again.

It's like a non event.

I think in all honesty on one really believes anything is going to change, we just wanted a fresh load of bullshiters in.

Tbh I've not mentioned the election to anyone today because I'm scared they'll say they voted Reform. I've spent some of the day with school mums and I just don't want to know. If I'd been with family and close friends we'd probably have talked about little else.

I'm absolutely delighted. I cried at Starmer's speech - he's so level headed and boring. It's brilliant.

appyaug · 05/07/2024 19:50

I actually think they want to distance themselves from the ludicrous excesses of the recent Tory government. I think it's intentional as a strategy.

NewMe2024 · 05/07/2024 19:51

I haven’t voted Labour for years and didn’t this time. However, I actually do feel optimistic about Starmer. Obviously no one individual can work magic, but he is a staunchly boring, dependable public servant who might just provide some of the stable leadership that we desperately need. Yes, there is a lot of instability on the world stage right now, but a lot of the mess in the UK is genuinely down to Boris’s narcissistic nonsense, all the way back to Brexit. It’s been a carnival ever since he had power (predating his actually being MP) and has had a long til following his departure. Boring leaders never get people excited but they often do a lot of good.

NewMe2024 · 05/07/2024 19:52

*a long tail

Gettingbysomehow · 05/07/2024 19:52

I dont care if Starmer has a personality or not as long as he gets us out of this mess. We've all been scarred by covid brexit and the economic failure.
I'm beyond celebrating. I just wNt a less stressful life and one prime minister rather than the tories revolving door ones.

Globe22 · 05/07/2024 19:52

well I am jubilant! My voted yesterday mattered and it helped swing a vote to Labour! I also enjoyed seeing all those smug Tories losing their seats! So a few gins tonight to celebrate. Happy days here!

feellikeanalien · 05/07/2024 19:55

It won't be easy and any improvements are going to take time. I hope that people give them a chance. I do however find it rather concerning that our new Foreign Secretary believes that men can grow a cervix and our Education Secretary believes that men with a GRC should be allowed in women's toilets.

Hayliebells · 05/07/2024 19:56

I feel relief mainly, but other PPs are right, it's a Tory loss rather than ringing endorsement of Labour. But imo it's good to have a woman who grew up in social housing as housing secretary. It's good to have a woman who went to a state comprehensive as Education Secretary. It's good to have an Energy Secretary who actually believes in climate change. It's good to have a serious man in charge who has achieved great things in his life through his own intelligence and hard work. It's good to have a party in charge who came into existence to further the lot of workers, rather than the landed gentry. I think public service is important to Labour politicians, whereas for too many Tories it was all about self service. I'm hoping we'll see some prosecutions for fraud and corruption during COVID, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

Farting · 05/07/2024 19:56

Upupandaway10 · 05/07/2024 19:42

Yeah agree

It is. They’re getting fewer and fewer votes.

KnickerlessParsons · 05/07/2024 19:56

I dont care if Starmer has a personality or not as long as he gets us out of this mess.

He's already said he can't make much of a difference for quite some time.

WilmaFlintstone1 · 05/07/2024 19:57

No joy here and I voted for them…albeit in a safe Tory seat …the Conservative candidate won by 20 votes. The Reform candidate was hot on the heels of the Labour vote. I hope both parties take note. People are pissed off, disillusioned and disenfranchised.

I want to feel pleased but I can’t. It won’t be any better …I’m too long in the tooth now, none of them care about normal folk. I pity the people of Clacton with their protest vote for “man of the people” Farage. If they think he will solve all their ills they are barking. I predict he will fuck off as much as he can and nothing will change for them unless Labour really pull it out of the bag.

Bewareofthisonetoo · 05/07/2024 19:57

They got fewer votes even that the clown Jeremy Corbyn did.
People voted in a hissy fit of pique against the’Tories’
Only 21%of the electorate voted for them so 4/5 either wanted someone else or couldn’t see any difference between them.
They have no mandate and no talent.
Unsurprising that people are realising that giving the last government a kicking won’t actually deliver anything better.

Farting · 05/07/2024 19:58

feellikeanalien · 05/07/2024 19:55

It won't be easy and any improvements are going to take time. I hope that people give them a chance. I do however find it rather concerning that our new Foreign Secretary believes that men can grow a cervix and our Education Secretary believes that men with a GRC should be allowed in women's toilets.

Well if you voted for people that believe that men can grow a cervix, then don’t get surprised when that’s what you get.