Anyone else watching Keir Starmer being savaged by Beth Rigby`/

[Netaporter]

Blimey, She’s not letting him off the hook at all. Cut above the rest of the interviewers IMO.

The fact is we are still in the middle of a cost of living crisis. Inflation is lower at the moment but is expected to go up again later this year. People are struggling. It’s all well and good pouring money into public services, nhs and social care but where exactly is all this money going to come from? A magic money tree? Putting VAT on private school fees and taxing non doms won’t be enough. So where is it coming from? He was very careful with his wording wasn’t he?

Families are struggling now and many (including mine) cannot afford tax increases. We are only just about managing and I’m worried about what this new government will mean for my family.

I know what labour will be like we just had khan votes back in London as mayor off back off his campaign to get more police to be tougher on knife crime...what has he just days ago announced....

More police to tackle speeding and his focus on getting 1m fines by the end of the year ...ffs!!

So how can you trust labour if they campaign for one thing then once in power do something else entirely.

Can't Khan do both? 1000s of children are killed and serious injured on UK roads, inc in London.

Don't their lives matter to you?

The different styles of interviewing are what ruins these debates for me.

I have no issue with being tough. It's out country and it needs someone tough to get it back on its feet.

But be equally tough.

It's Laura K all over again

I remember the last time they were in power and they were discussing pay per mile road charging. There were several petitions set up at the time in protest against it. Thankfully they got voted out. But I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it comes up again once they are back in government.

Yep. Absolutely appalling interviewing. The one thing that should be expected in this situation is lack of bias in the interviewer.

What rubbish. Haven’t you seen the posts on here of people unable to find an nhs dentist taking patients within 100 miles? Its not about a dental waiting list, there isn’t an nhs dentist waiting list, there are simply no spaces.

Labour have mentioned this, more scaremongering!

However, Pay per mile is a lot better than the current vehicle excise duty.

Drive more/pay more... with reduced rates for rural drivers and no charge for health workers who need a car.

The nhs dentist waiting list in Cornwall is 10 years, in other words there is no waiting list... worthy of the name.

the ony NHS dentist here suggested i call back in 3 to 4 years time...

This is after 14 years of the Tories.

Sorry but though i don't think Labour are being bold, they at least will try and improve things, the Tories promise just more of the same.

Yes but it is doubly ironic here. There aren’t enough NHS dentists because of Labour and the changes they made to the NHS contract. And when asked if he used PHC, he said no, and if you recall, seemed slightly hesitant or as if he wanted to clarify something afterwards - it’s irrelevant if you or I use Private healthcare/ dentistry, we weren’t asked the question.

It is relevant you can’t get on an NHS list and understand who caused the mass exodus of dentists.

OP ‘I’m no Tory supporter’
😂

If anyone is listening to R4 right now, Pat McFadyen is doing an appalling job of defending the claims that Labour won’t raise taxes and the big question of trust. They’ve just replayed the Sky interview question Beth Rigby asked at the start of the interview and he can’t explain either why KS campaigned for someone he didn’t think would win or how the same person is now not fit to even be in the party. Straight questions, zero straight answers.

And I don’t think we can say Amol Rajan is biased.

A private dentist get £160 for a filling and £800 to 1000 for root canal.

so unless Lab is planning on matching these fees, why would any dentist take a pay cut???

Lots of people simply don't have private treatment at the moment because of the cost. They might have that treatment if they could do some on the nhs. Dentists can be incentivised to take more NHS patients

Like many, I’m looking where to place my cross on July 4th. I’ll be voting for the person/party who will improve the area I live in.

Which party has trashed the area you live in ?
Essentially it’s about cuts to council spending. Our town is a dump now, no shops, full of homeless and beggars, looks like a 1970s town in Eastern Europe. Otoh it’s lost £400 million in council spending. Due to austerity. Rishi also promised he’d give more money to Tunbridge Wells rather than the poors in the North. Levelling up a busted flush (unless threatening to vote Tory) 🤷🏻‍♂️

I live in a labour-run area.

I do understand that the interviewers have to try to pin down the interviewee to answer the question, but there are lots of them nowadays, including those on radio, who see themselves as stars of their shows. Aymol Rayjayne at this very moment is raising his voice to someone as if he can loudly bully him to answer. Earlier Emma Barnett was interrupting David Cameron. She's very proud of it. I was hoping a bit of Justin Webb would rub off on her when she was with him one morning this week.

I don't dislike the Mason person but he's in a programme with a another man and Laura Kuennsberg and I switch it off now because the small amount I've seen of it it's like a mutual-congratulation fest and reminds me of probably Kenneth Tynan describing the Common Market as a group-grope in Brussels.

I'm afraid I could have been heard in the kitchen, yesterday evening, shouting at the telly, " She's twenty three miles up her own arse!".

The question will be what will James O’Brien do when Labour wins? What will he talk about on his show? 😂

@Netaporter well, you’ll understand about austerity then ?
Labour run areas received less money from central government than already prosperous ones. It’s well known.
Levelling up created a bun fight where wealthy areas like Sunak’s ‘deprived’ constituency in N Yorks received ‘levelling up’ money over poor northern towns.

@Netaporter totally disingenuous poster posting in bad faith. Even your thread title is designed to create a false impression. If you really lived in a deprived northern town you’d know exactly that the Tories were no answer.

The dental contract fee's were last increased by labour, the Tories have been in for over 14 years.... how on earth is it "Labours fault?" v weird, unless you work for CHQ ?

The Tories could have renegotiated the contract at any point over the last 14 years but instead froze fee's ensuring more dentists left the NHS.

Oh and on top of this, their terrible EU agreement meant that EU dentists left the UK, around 1500 failed to get qualifications recognised in a timely manner.

I’ve never said I live in a ‘deprived northern town’?

I don’t think it’s disingenuous to explore the integrity of anyone standing to be PM of any political persuasion. But it is perhaps unpalatable for you to hear that the area in which I live has not benefited from a Labour administration. You have your experience and I have mine. There is no need to start hurling around unfounded accusations because someone doesn’t agree with your viewpoint. This is a site for discussion not an echo chamber.

Brexit is a separate issue though. The contract was flawed from the off. To pay the same fee for an extraction as a root canal was never going to work. Dentists have had 14 years to try and renegotiate the contract and haven’t (probably because it has given them cart blanch to go and earn significant amounts of £).

I’m not doubting that the system for dentistry is broken but fixing it whilst apparently not raising taxes is nigh on impossible. It’ll make the 35% pay rise the junior doctors are seeking seem minimal.

In a snap poll, 64% think Starmer did really well. 34% think Sunak did:

https://news.sky.com/story/keir-starmer-raised-his-game-as-rishi-sunak-fell-flat-in-sky-news-leaders-event-13152170

he can’t explain either why KS campaigned for someone he didn’t think would win or how the same person is now not fit to even be in the party.

That's how parties and elections work though isn't it?
It's clear that many Tory MPs are campaigning for Sunak despite thinking they are not going to win.

As for not fit to even be in the party - well the same could definitely be said for Liz Truss or Boris Johnson.