Madeleine McCann new evidence - BREAKING NEWS

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A Senior German detective has told a court that investigators had found emails on a Hotmail account used by Christian Brueckner that linked him directly to the Madeleine McCann case.

However, the detective was unable to share details of the evidence as it was 'related to the killing' of Madeleine. Brueckner, the prime suspect, is currently on trial in Germany for unrelated sex crimes.

Which 3 doors would she have had to close?

How is Michael Bruckner going to be found guilty of this? Do you mean Christian Brueckner?

And anyone spotting a 3yo in pyjamas would notice and remember so she'd have to have either been abducted pretty quickly or her body would be close to the apartment.

I was 14 at the time so can't really speak to knowing much about this other drug, but thank you.

But I don't believe it would be that difficult to snatch a heavy sleeper of a 3 year old with much difficulty. Not if Bruckner had an accomplice with a car outside, either.

I mean to say that my own daughter at the age of 3, despite her other challenges, would have easily been carried a certain distance away.

It might not be an easy or nice thought, but here we are.

Children get abducted quickly. Ask Sarah Paynes family.

Sarah Payne was in a cornfield and her abductor was an opportunistic pedophile who was driving around in a van, designed for that purpose. I do think that’s a bit different in terms of the circumstances. When a vehicle is involved it’s a lot easier for the abductor (as in the case of Cleo Smith).

Had it ever been considered that Madeleine was taken away in a car / van?

My DD is the same age as MM...
At the time there was a similar product to Calpol on the market... exept it was more potent and made children drowsy... it later was re marketed for 6+ children and as far as I know is now only available through a pharmacy if at all.

@DancefloorAcrobatics do you mean Medised? I always thought it was a shame that some people were misusing it so it had to be withdrawn because used sparingly for a child who was very poorly and struggling to sleep it was great to get them around a corner.

But the fact it had to be withdrawn does show that people must have been misusing it.

GPs used to advise parents to give children Sudafed for flights or long car journeys! It sounds mad today but I remember people posting it on here. There is a rare interaction some children have where it makes them hyperactive, rather than sleepy. So I remember parents warning others about it.

@Onomatofear yes, that is the one.

One of my friends used it to get her DC to sleep- notorious bad sleeper.
I only used it once with DD when she was quite poorly and couldn't sleep.

It really knocked her out for about 12 hours... I am glad it got removed from sale.

I remember that too. My mum used to give me phenergan!

@MaryMaryVeryContrary The ex cop in the video posted up thread said that the parents had left the one/only door to the back of the apartment open to allow a breeze as it was really hot.

TBH I don't know who to believe any more, its difficult to know who is presenting facts and who isn't, but that was what he said.

He doesn't believe CB did it, despite obviously being an odious character. The phone mast theory didn't stack up in his opinion. He thinks the German prosecutor wants CB to be guilty.

We will see. I hope if they do get enough strong evidence for CB's involvement then they throw the book at him.

Knowing his past crimes, part of me is hoping he never crossed paths with Madeleine for her sake.

They left the door open (stupid!) but when Kate went back to window to the kids room was open with the metal shutter rolled up - they discovered it would open from the outside as well as inside.

Sudafed helps open nasal passages and stops snoring and grinding teeth in the sleep. I used it for one of mine when little so we could both sleep properly. It made him hyper for about 30 mins before the comedown and helped aid sleep but I am in Ireland and it was only ever for that purpose not to make them stay sleeping.

The point is children can disappear in seconds. Sarah Paynes brother actually saw the van that took her. He was literally seconds behind her.

The problem with medised was that it had paracetamol in, and parents weren't realising that they couldn't give calpol at the same time.

It was basically like giving a spoonful of piriton and calpol at the same time, which did, in most children, make them sleep very deeply. I had it for dd2 who was at a stage of sleeping no more than an hour at a time and waking at 2am for the day. But the doctor told me not to give any calpol on the days I was using it and not to use it for more than 3 days in a row.
I gave her half a tea spoon (she was around 18 months) which was half the dose for her age, and she slept 12 hours. I did that for 2 nights, then reluctantly didn't give it her on the third night, but it seemed to have kick started sleeping for her and she from then on pretty much always slept 10 hours at night, which was a huge relief.

The risk was with the paracetamol has a very small region between giving pain relief and overdose, and overdosing can be very serious.

It wasn't deliberate misuse, more accidental, but one with serious consequences.

This is why I always make sure to read the label before taking or giving any OTC medicines.

BTW - your username brought back a lot of childhood memories! I loved that book!

People don't though. Or use common sense.

I have a friend who when she first became a nurse they were issued with instructions that if they gave calpol on prescription not to give more than one bottle.
This was because they'd discovered that not an insignificant minority if given two bottles, thought they could give a dose from each. 🙄

@MaryMaryVeryContrary Not disputing what you're saying, as I have no more idea than the next person but why would an intruder open the allegedly noisy shutters and climb in a window if door was open? Just trying to get my head round it.

...and how did the police not get DNA/finger prints (well, according to the ex cop in video they were useless at crime scene conservation).

They left the door open? Open as in not locked or open as in ajar? Surely no one would be stupid enough to leave a door ajar with three kids inside. I mean, you wouldn’t even do it with a dog.

They did 🙄.

I always understood it was not locked rather than ajar. I imagine a sliding patio door. Could be completely imagined by me over the years.

Like others, I think of MM a lot.. we were on holidays recently and the resort was like a holiday village. I let my 12yo come and go as he pleased most of the time during the day once I knew where he was going. Four different restaurants on site and a feeling that everyone was on a family holiday. I can imagine their misplaced feeling of safety.. they have indeed paid the ultimate price- a lifetime of a living nightmare that they have to bear. I'm sure just waking up some days is hard.

The police initially assumed that Madeleine had just wondered off and would be found quickly. They therefore failed to treat the apartment as a crime scene. Initially, that was reasonable, but it took them far too long to realise this was a crime. Even when they did start treating it as a crime scene, the evidence available suggests they did not do a proper job. There are photos showing police officers gathering fingerprints in their normal clothes - they aren't even wearing gloves. It also appears that no DNA tests were carried out on Cuddle Cat before it was washed.

Official figures suggest that the Portuguese police don't have much experience with child abduction or missing children. The official statistics say that around 1,000 children and young people go missing each year in Portugal, but that for the last 13 years every single one of them has been found and returned home.

For comparison, the most recent figures I can find for the UK are for 2018/19. In that year there were 218,707 incidences of children going missing in England & Wales involving 75,918 children (some children went missing multiple times). At the end of the year there were 1,514 children classed as long-term missing, meaning they had been missing for more than 28 days. Around half of the long-term missing cases related to children who went missing prior to 2018/19.

The front door was locked. The patio doors were closed but unlocked (they could only be locked from the inside). For the parents to do their checks they had to leave the compound, walk along the street, then in through an unlocked gate and up some steps. Their apartment was the first one beside the gate on the street.