Can you really not move to Australia with Autism?

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Just that really.

I follow a midwife on there from the UK. She is open and honest, and is paid so much better with amazing working conditions. That's just one example of a profession

Is it really true families who have someone who's autistic cannot move out there or is it far more complex than that?

This is just out of interest.

I have family in NZ and know they're quite strict there

High Net Worth individuals can purchase citizenships outright including in the uk 2M investment, usa 500,000 and canada 800,000 for instance there are several more.
the money can come from pooled family money to get one person in who than can "sponsor" several others.

But it's a blanket ban in Australia. Not so in other countries.

Yes hopefully. It seems some politicians have supported
families in this situation. And had the decision changed.

I didn’t actually know this but it does not seem unreasonable that Australia would seek to ensure people who migrate there can support themselves. My friend has an autistic husband and two autistic DC. Her DS is very high needs, needs 2:1 support in a special school and will never live independently let alone work. Her DH has not worked for over a decade. Her DD goes to mainstream school with an EHCP and unsure if she is likely be able to work when older. The cost to the tax payer for this one family is obviously high, I am not saying that they do not need or deserve support, but I do understand why another country would not want the cost of supporting the needs this family has.

Exactly this!

My friend and her DH have applied to move to Canada and there’s more hoops to jump through than a circus. They are now early 30’s and their age starts to go against them as they lose points. Some people would cry discrimination for that…

That seems so wrong-Indigenous Peoples were there thousands of years before Europeans took over Australia.

What if it’s 2 doctors as parents with 1 child with asd? They would give a huge benefit to the country but would be excluded due their child’s condition.

Sounds like they want an engineered society based on reducing the amount of those with disabilities and increasing those they feel will be worth something to them. Doesn’t sound like somewhere anyone with morals would want to live . Plus I’ve heard from a friend who has a brother that moved there as he’s a doctor and he hates it and says it’s very much ‘us and them’ with British drs who have also moved there.

Probably plenty of doctors who want to Emigrate to Australia who don't have children that are likely to cost the Taxpayer-Look at how bankrupted even councils are in UK having to cater for autism and other conditions~ tens of thousands annually, just for one child.

I am interested to know why this has turned into a conversation about racism in Australia. Sure it’s a problem but I have lived in the UK also and it is just as bad. People are people and unfortunately some are just bigots. Doesn’t matter where they are from or where they live now.
Australia’s healthcare system provides free or low-cost medical care for Australian citizens. Our medical treatments are either fully subsidized or (in most cases) partially subsidized by a Government dept called Medicare.
We have a reciprocal agreement with the New Zealand Govt allowing New Zealanders medical care subsidised by Medicare also. We also have a reciprocal agreement with the NHS but I believe there are some limitations.
When it comes to the child referred to above, there is obviously NOT a Working Visa in place.
As well as that, various state and federal government departments would then have to fund the education and higher medical needs of this child whose life is not currently in danger, etc. This means that they have low priority compared to genuine refugees who have applied for visas also. The fact is that in the UK this family has access to the medical support this child needs, and if I am honest, access to much more financial assistance from the government for caring for the child and providing other goods and services (cars, transport, mobility aids, orthotics, continence aids and even housing, etc.) This child is (presumably) physically safe and is getting their medical and educational needs met already.
This family would struggle to earn enough to live on one income. The cost of living here is very high. In applying for a visa based on one income, they are also applying for eligibility for other government funding aside from medical care. It is quite likely that they would find that they were financially much better off there than here. Our Government doesn’t offer Universal Credit, etc…

If you want a simple run down of our medical system:
Aussie Health System

Australia is very selective, and it has the right to choose who they want to enter.

They don’t want older people, people of unneeded qualifications, disabled people, poor people etc.

Basically they only want people who will be an asset to Australia, not a liability. Most people in the world do not fit this criteria. It is discriminatory, but it is a good way to protect your country.

Proportionately Australia has pretty high migration. One of the reasons that most people are ok with it is because they believe the rules are strict and do protect the local population. Also, if the NHS is the British religion, border control is the Australian one. You can agree or disagree but it is what it is.

@Pinkfluffypencilcase As I said above, if Australians want to change the immigration rules, they can. It’s up to them. 🤷

They don’t need every doctor who applies.

Er no they don’t. You get nothing after an autism diagnosis. If you had severe symptoms you might however the NHS treats very little. Severe mental health often gets nothing whether you’re neurotypical or on the spectrum.

I wouldn’t give you a thankyou for Australia, Canada maybe.

I think it was me brought the indigenous people pov to the thread.

I live in the U.K. and despite its faults it does better than most other countries.

Ive been to Australia a few times and experienced sexism, racism and lots of negative comments on being British.

The example was for a family who were already in Australia and had a child there. They had to leave as they couldnt get their child a visa status.

Yes of course.

But I hear of discrimination and it feels unjust.

Of course it's discrimination.

All immigration polices are discriminatory, in that you will accept some people but not others. If Australia and other prosperious countries did not discriminate in such matters, they would be flooded with immigrants.

Very sensible of them, we should do the same imo.

It’s about needs, not diagnosis. Some DC with ASD have needs that cost the state a lot of money - benefits, social care, education, health care…

But I hear of discrimination and it feels unjust

It would be unjust to the tax paying citizens of Australia to have their hard earned money going towards supporting immigrants that will be an overall drain on their economy and services.

@Pinkfluffypencilcase - I didn’t say that this ugly side wasn’t a thing here in Aus. I have lived and worked in the UK - (legally, btw) - at two different times in my life and I also encountered frequent racism, sexism and negativity about being Australian. There are “those” types everywhere. (I have also lived and worked in the Netherlands and Austria, and oddly, found Austrians to be the most open-minded and accepting, but still, those people are everywhere too.)

I’ll add, dh and I are educated with degrees but still not what they wanted. At the time, a used car sales person was higher on the visa application list 😂🤷🏻‍♀️

The costs to Councils for Children with SEND are huge -probably older people's social care, too.

The children below get £17,000 a year for transport to school alone.

https://news.sky.com/story/taxis-to-school-are-lifeline-for-children-with-special-needs-but-councils-face-unsustainable-transport-costs-13010311