Can you really not move to Australia with Autism?

[sandygrapes]

Just that really.

I follow a midwife on there from the UK. She is open and honest, and is paid so much better with amazing working conditions. That's just one example of a profession

Is it really true families who have someone who's autistic cannot move out there or is it far more complex than that?

This is just out of interest.

I have family in NZ and know they're quite strict there

Agree with this.

Just because they treat one section of their society poorly doesn't mean that Australia isn't, overall, working in its citizens best interests.

Using indigenous Australians as a gotcha is a strange choice. What’s the continuation of the logic?

”The people whose ancestral homeland this is aren’t treated well…so we’re going to import more people that will cost us money and divert more funds that could have gone to the indigenous population”

Doesnt really add up, does it

It's true.

Australia is so behind the rest of the civilised world. It's like the 1950s there.

Not sure why so many people are so upset about a couple of countries choosing who they want to allow to immigrate there and who they don’t. It’s not “fair” but it doesn’t have to be. It’s not a right to live wherever in the world you might please.

How can that be the case though? If indigenous Australians are ignored?

No. My logic is a counter to the argument that Australia is right to
look after their own. When clearly they don’t.

Not letting in those with disabilities is discriminatory.
Using an individual’s skill set for a few years then saying no
you can’t stay as your child is autistic is cruel.

How can that be the case though? If indigenous Australians are ignored?

Do you have any idea of how GRT people are treated in the UK? Does the poor treatment of GRT mean the UK should allow all and sundry in? Does it mean that we don't look after our citizens on a mass scale?

And so what, like? Autism is not an attractive prospect for them, therefore the visa doesn’t get approved. Neither is old age, I don’t see Oz clamouring to import pensioners either. They’re not keen to take on additional costs if they can be avoided, that’s understandable.

If you look hard enough you can find a way in which every country neglects some of their own. It’s a nonsensical argument to say “ok well you must take these people with undesirable conditions also” as some kind of penance.

Then the children may well go through school on Australian taxes then move back to be closer to extended family. No guarantee they will stay.

To go back a little bit, think of how Catholic nationalists in Northern Ireland were treated by the UK government. How many people with disabilities should be imported to atone for that one? Perhaps there’s a scale we can use.

It’s a counter to those saying looking after their own.

And no I don’t believe the U.K. looks after all its citizens equally.

Which country, in your opinion , can say it looks after its own?

Dh and I looked at emigrating to Australia years ago but couldn’t due to our careers not being what they needed. They are very selective, putting the country’s priorities above the priorities of individuals wanting to move there.

But you wouldn’t be trying to emigrate if you couldn’t work. Lots of people with autism work.Hope they don’t ever run out of software coders.

I’d much rather emigrate to a more inclusive country.

I've known several families from Eastern Europe with profoundly disabled children come to the UK, just for healthcare. The children have needed major surgical intervention.

You’re right not many if any.

I find the approach there different to here. The electorate are bipartisan on the type of immigration policy the U.K. struggles with

I am curious as to whether a person with disabilities in a shortage area would meet visa reqs.

It’s also extremely short sighted of them. They could be excluding people who would be a huge asset to the country.

the usa also has health requirements when immigrating.
my two children had to be assessed in order to access a green card/visa. any sign of cognitive issues would have barred them.

You can emigrate to the USA with autism though.

i'm sure it depends on the level of disability @NewtonGig

As an immigrant to the UK - most countries discriminate as to who is allowed in. That’s “bears shit in woods” territory. Countries don’t tend to seek out large numbers of people who will be an economic cost. I jumped through a dozen hoops to stay in the UK, some much more arbitrary than mental health diagnoses.