Can you really not move to Australia with Autism?

[sandygrapes]

Just that really.

I follow a midwife on there from the UK. She is open and honest, and is paid so much better with amazing working conditions. That's just one example of a profession

Is it really true families who have someone who's autistic cannot move out there or is it far more complex than that?

This is just out of interest.

I have family in NZ and know they're quite strict there

Yes, @NewtonGig, but the overall point stands that many countries do consider health conditions when deciding whether or not to admit immigrants.

I’ve been through the American immigration system and had to undergo a medical at the embassy in London performed by an American doctor, as well as supplying my British medical records.

If there’s anything they weren’t happy with, I presume I’d have been denied a visa, even though I’m married to an American. As a non-citizen, I didn’t have any “right” to be admitted.

Well yes but it must be down to cost though. Many people with autism don’t incur any costs. Ditto other health conditions. Very few humans will have zero historic or current health conditions. Somebody who requires expensive meds and care is going to be very different to somebody who doesn’t need anything.

@NewtonGig i'm american canadian and my dd is trying to immigrate to the uk. i've looked at so many immigration rules and regulations that the reality is none of these three are looking to have people who will access benefits.
the devil is in the detail.
and it's not the diagnosis alone it's skill set and being employable.

So if you had a diagnosis of autism that didn’t incur costs and had skills on the wanted list you’d be ok?

I think it’s more about the financial implications of using their healthcare system, rather than discrimination.

most likely yes @NewtonGig because you hopefully would pass the medical and interviews.

Out of interest how easy is it to emigrate to Australia? On the tv programmes it’s presented as oh we’ll be better off, let’s go. No mention of visa’s etc.

my young next door neighbour is desperate to go. She has a degree from a good uni, but is currently waitressing and living at home to save money. She is under the impression she’ll have no problems because Australia has a big hospitality industry.

i thought you had to be in a skilled profession?

@wizarddry

It is discrimination. They just have to own it
It's discrimination in the same way that saying you have to have a degree or be in a specific industry or not have a police record is discrimination.
It's not always wrong to discriminate

It seems reasonable not to load their own residents with higher taxes to pay for people who can't pay their own way.

I get that but many disabilities don’t incur costs. To ban all people with autism is pretty discrimitory hence other countries not having out right bans. It’s so shortsighted too.

@CurlsnSunshinetime4tea Yes, interviews, background checks, education, employment history, etc., etc. Then you do the same again when you apply for citizenship-essentially, you need to be more useful to the country and healthier than the average citizen. 😂

This is a prime example that as unpopular and unpalatable as it is, some people are more valuable than others, at least in terms of being desirable citizens of prosperous countries who can afford to pick and choose.

@BruFord part of it is understandable and it's also understandable why people try to circumvent the process.
and when it comes to details i love the tiny loopholes that are only based on a 2-3 year timespan that are most likely related to some strange temporary treaty.
must have served in the korean war type clauses or only if maternal grandmother was born at a certain location.

It’s not that tough. Australia has a large number of immigrants, every year. You just can’t be disabled, or have any family members that are. I would think it’s very common to have immigration policy that stop people with disabled children arriving.

She is a graduate. And I assume she is young? She could go travelling. What is her subject and career plan?

It is only discrimination if they say white people with autism can come but Asians who are can’t. They are applying this to all sex and race.

Like others say, it’s like asking immigrants to have certain in demand skills and amount of wealth.

She would be able to go under the youth mobility scheme - well worth a look. My husband originally came here on it!

@CurlsnSunshinetime4tea It’s definitely an eye-opening process and has made me appreciate any rights that I do have, e.g., to vote, serve on a jury, etc. You understand how precious they are when you’re living somewhere and you don’t have them, because you’re on a visa (that could be taken away).

Exactly!
dc 1 dx recently with Adhd. Graduated from a COWI uni. Seems she would be denied. Whereas everything else on paper ticks all their boxes.

That's an horrific case.
WHY on earth was she given ''drugs'' {Meds} when she spoke about wanting to seriously harm her children?
Surely anyone with a shred of sense would look deeper into the family situation-and have kids temporarily fostered for their own safety , rather than giving the woman prescribed drugs that she could stop taking.

From memory - you need to demonstrate you won’t cost the health service more than something like 50k over 5 years. Unless you have significant needs, the vast majority of people with neurodiversity will be unaffected.

It’s discrimination against those with disabilities

It’s also short sighted as pp said. Wonder if Elon musk would be allowed

Musk would likely be allowed, as he wouldn't be a financial drain on the Taxpayer.

Yeah true. But at the start of his career?

From reading up it seems that children are adversely affected as the rules look at cost over a lifetime.

@Pinkfluffypencilcase
I take your point. The current rules may change at some point if Australians don’t agree with them.