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Can you really not move to Australia with Autism?

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sandygrapes · 27/05/2024 11:32

Just that really.

I follow a midwife on there from the UK. She is open and honest, and is paid so much better with amazing working conditions. That's just one example of a profession

Is it really true families who have someone who's autistic cannot move out there or is it far more complex than that?

This is just out of interest.

I have family in NZ and know they're quite strict there

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frozendaisy · 28/05/2024 00:49

Fill out the application forms honestly and see what happens.

If you fill out incorrectly and get caught you will be deported.

Grey area with autism but it can mean your application is declined yes.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 28/05/2024 01:02

Stupid autocorrect - a Gadigal man

Mimimimi1234 · 28/05/2024 01:06

toomanytonotice · 27/05/2024 17:07

Out of interest how easy is it to emigrate to Australia? On the tv programmes it’s presented as oh we’ll be better off, let’s go. No mention of visa’s etc.

my young next door neighbour is desperate to go. She has a degree from a good uni, but is currently waitressing and living at home to save money. She is under the impression she’ll have no problems because Australia has a big hospitality industry.

i thought you had to be in a skilled profession?

There is a program for people under 30 whwre they can live and work for I think a year. If they then marry an aussie or gwt a proper sponsor with higher paid work then there arw options to stay linger. But there is this year long visa thing for under 30s for the people that back pack and work then return to the uk. Its not a perm solution. And the visa is around 500 quid to get. You also need to prove you have funds in the bank back home. My uncle properly emigrated to australia and it is really a lot of hoops to go through, you have to have great financial history, money in the bank a sponsor and a job on their needed jobs list. You can see what jobs and qualifications they want on the government website.

ConsiderabloiRicherthanYow · 28/05/2024 01:09

ClairemacL · 27/05/2024 12:01

NZ is the same, to the extent that there was an awful case where a couple of doctors emigrated and the wife stopped her mental health medication to pass the medical. She then had a psychotic episode and killed their three young children. Wildly irresponsible but also very sad.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/lauren-dickason-trial-alleged-child-murderer-stopped-taking-antidepressants-for-immigration-purposes/IM6OBGE2VVFLRLXUTCL2XSVXAA/

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God that was harrowing. See she was found guilty and is being sentenced next month. That poor man coming home to see his kids like that.

changeme4this · 28/05/2024 01:14

DishSoap · 27/05/2024 22:37

Well, I really wish I'd never heard about this. Christ.

There’s a bit more to that case in she had Nanny’s to care for the Girls prior to their departure because She wasn’t coping.

why they (in the collective sense thought it a great idea to immigrate from their support systems, I don’t know but he has gone back. From what I read, she wrote to him afterwards abs said it was beyond belief that he didn’t see the signs.

truly the saddest situation ever.

Nanaof1 · 28/05/2024 01:49

NewtonGig · 27/05/2024 16:34

I’d much rather emigrate to a more inclusive country.

Which ones are those?

Josette77 · 28/05/2024 01:50

DifficultBloodyWoman · 28/05/2024 00:47

No.

The most used, and most accepted term is Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander.

It is also appropriate to use group names to describe individuals such as ‘a Ngunnawal woman’ or ‘a Gadigalan.

Aborigine is consider racist.

First Nations is only occasionally used in Australia. It is a US import.

No, it's Canadian. I'm Cree.

In the USA, Native American.

Josette77 · 28/05/2024 01:55

Nanaof1 · 28/05/2024 01:49

Which ones are those?

The ones like Canada who are collapsing under our medical care.

I don't know why so many people here think they are entitled to live wherever they want.

Nanaof1 · 28/05/2024 02:37

ChillysWaterBottle · 27/05/2024 18:21

'This is a prime example that as unpopular and unpalatable as it is, some people are more valuable than others'

'...a financial drain on the Taxpayer.'

'...an overall drain on their economy and services'

'Autism is not a favourable trait'

'...if you have a disability unfortunately that will make you a liability'

Fucking hell, some of you are disgraceful. Who drags these people up?

Why? You are taking things out of context. They are talking about immigration "rules" and how the countries decide who they want to immigrate and who they do not.

You may not like it, but countries have rules to protect themselves and their citizenry. All countries should have standards that they use to decide who will enrich their country and who will not. I think some of Australia's standards are too much, but can see where they just have to have a level for everyone and not do case by case because so many wish to move there.

emeraldtablet · 28/05/2024 02:40

Perfectlystill · 27/05/2024 16:13

It's true.

Australia is so behind the rest of the civilised world. It's like the 1950s there.

Have you got Australia confused with the set of Neighbours?

Nanaof1 · 28/05/2024 02:42

NewtonGig · 27/05/2024 18:29

Would just like to say my son is currently working in Canada for 3 years. I get it’s not permanent however his autism diagnosis bumped his Canadian health insurance up by just a few pounds more. They weren’t interested. He passed his visa medical with flying colours. I’d love to know what his non favourable traits are. His attention to detail and skills would be an asset to any company.

That's why I feel a case by case basis is a better barometer.

That said, I can also understand why a country would have trouble with a case by case decision when they are overwhelmed with applications.

margymary · 28/05/2024 03:38

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margymary · 28/05/2024 03:45

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 27/05/2024 15:36

Oh this is so misunderstood anywhere outside of Australia. I've tried to explain it before. Anyway, the leader os the no vote was Aboriginal. The state with the highest perentage of Aboriginal residents voted no. The whole thiing was a disaster and nobody understood what it even meant.

echt · 28/05/2024 03:55

Perfectlystill · 27/05/2024 16:13

It's true.

Australia is so behind the rest of the civilised world. It's like the 1950s there.

Would you like to say more, indeed anything to support this claim?

margymary · 28/05/2024 04:18

echt · 28/05/2024 03:55

Would you like to say more, indeed anything to support this claim?

Probably never even been to Australia, thinks kangaroos are hopping down the city streets of Sydney, and that everyone else lives in "the outback". I despair.

Lila878 · 28/05/2024 04:22

Do they make expectations for people that have family there and want to be closer to family?

margymary · 28/05/2024 04:32

Just to add, cases are assessed on their individual merits and the Minister in charge can overrule as well. Also, for over a decade we have had a vile right wing government. They did things like throw out a lovely family from a country town where they had moved after leaving Sri Lanka and were living very happily for years, a part of the community There was uproar. Since the change of government that family have now been returned to their tiny country town . Thank goodness. There's no doubt a lot of mistakes ( I think I remember the case of the 2 doctors. )That sounds like a stuff-up too. Not sure what happened.

echt · 28/05/2024 04:37

Lila878 · 28/05/2024 04:22

Do they make expectations for people that have family there and want to be closer to family?

I know an ex-UK couple who were able to bring over the 60+ mum of the woman. I'm sure there are rules around it and remember that an emergency in the UK came close to stopping her from getting to Aus in time, so plainly there's a time limit on it.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 28/05/2024 05:42

margymary · 28/05/2024 04:18

Probably never even been to Australia, thinks kangaroos are hopping down the city streets of Sydney, and that everyone else lives in "the outback". I despair.

Whilst I do agree with you, I remember the traffic jam as a result of this:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-16/wallaby-hops-across-sydney-harbour-bridge-surprising-motorists/9332050

Wayward wallaby hops along Sydney Harbour Bridge

A wallaby surprises early-morning motorists by hopping along the Sydney Harbour Bridge, forcing police to corner the startled animal and take it to a vet for a check-up.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-16/wallaby-hops-across-sydney-harbour-bridge-surprising-motorists/9332050

NewtonGig · 28/05/2024 06:25

Nanaof1 · 28/05/2024 02:37

Why? You are taking things out of context. They are talking about immigration "rules" and how the countries decide who they want to immigrate and who they do not.

You may not like it, but countries have rules to protect themselves and their citizenry. All countries should have standards that they use to decide who will enrich their country and who will not. I think some of Australia's standards are too much, but can see where they just have to have a level for everyone and not do case by case because so many wish to move there.

They do do it case by case though. An Australian immigration lawyer has posted below.

SearchingForChocolate · 28/05/2024 06:51

ClairemacL · 27/05/2024 18:35

Best thing is that an Australian or New Zealander with a significant health condition could emigrate to the UK and, with the right circumstances, even qualify for citizenship eventually.

Can you please tell me how? I am a NZer with two Master's degrees, working in specialist education. I worked for 2 years on a working holiday visa and would love to return (yes, really) but as far as I can tell, without a business sponsoring me, I have no way in. I don't even have any health conditions...

nothingsforgotten · 28/05/2024 07:35

SearchingForChocolate · 28/05/2024 06:51

Can you please tell me how? I am a NZer with two Master's degrees, working in specialist education. I worked for 2 years on a working holiday visa and would love to return (yes, really) but as far as I can tell, without a business sponsoring me, I have no way in. I don't even have any health conditions...

Indeed. It's really not as easy to move to the UK as some of the posters on this thread seem to think.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 28/05/2024 08:10

Rainbows89 · 27/05/2024 22:13

It’s literally designed to discriminate!?

But it's not discrimination for discrimination's sake. That's the point. It's worrying that that needs to be pointed out.

HeadDeskHeadDesk · 28/05/2024 08:16

MumblesParty · 27/05/2024 21:50

I agree.
And it baffles me that on MN the UK is seen as a nasty racist nation, whilst Australia is supposedly wonderful.

I lost count of the number of outraged Remainers who announced they were going to up sticks and move to Australia or NZ after the Brexit referendum. They felt the loss of Freedom of Movement so acutely that apparently they couldn't bear to stay in such an unwelcoming, insular country a moment longer than necessary.

The irony was not lost on me, but clearly it was entirely lost on them.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 28/05/2024 08:18

SearchingForChocolate · 28/05/2024 06:51

Can you please tell me how? I am a NZer with two Master's degrees, working in specialist education. I worked for 2 years on a working holiday visa and would love to return (yes, really) but as far as I can tell, without a business sponsoring me, I have no way in. I don't even have any health conditions...

Is your job on the shortage list for U.K.?