How did Ollie get no points in the public vote for Eurovision?

[FatAndFiftySomething]

I don’t mean ‘because people didn’t like his song’, I mean, literally how do the voting points work?

I’ve googled and not found an answer. It’s not percentages as some people got a few hundred.

Is it like 1 point per thousand public votes (or whatever the numbers are ) and he didn’t reach 1000 votes from any single country?

I think this.
I also think that the UK has to be slightly better than other middling songs or countries won't vote for it. So if Finland, Sweden and Luxembourg were equally bad, they might still squeak a vote from somewhere.
I don't think Dizzy was the worst song (awful staging, mind) but it wouldn't make my top ten.

You have to grab audience attention in the allotted 3 minutes and he didn’t. Crap performance, mediocre song, odd staging.

Why should anyone vote for that? You get out what you put in and what was put in wasn’t good.

There is some political voting and always has been. That has nothing to do with why the UK scores well with good songs and badly with bad songs.

Except that’s categorically not true, we have only ever received 0 points twice which was in 2003 & 2021.

@Damnyourheadshoulderskneesandtoes I agree

Because it was a terrible display.

I think there could be an element of this. You're right. Like how expectations of Ashley Roberts were higher than those of Tony Adams in Strictly Come Dancing. I think this goes for all of the big 5 but maybe the UK a little more.

I really hope the message starts to sink in that people generally don't want to see other people writhing around in fetish gear. It's not modern or sexy, it's just seedy.

It's ruined Pride for a lot of people as well. Too much fetish, bondage and kink.

Co-incidentally, Pride rainbow flags are the special exemption from the 'flag ban' at Eurovision. Only the flags of participating nations and Pride are allowed in the arena.

Someone should have said at the start, 'Look Olly mate, that doesn't mean fetish is compulsory'.

Aye, and him simulating deep throat with his gold toothed backing dancer using his mic, 30 seconds in likely put a lot of the audience off their meatballs.

This. It's a world away from the camp bling that people love in Eurovision.

There were plenty of sexy gay dance routines so I don't think it was that.
I think another thing is that I think audiences expect more from the UK because you absolutely dominate the international world music stage, so anything lacklustre really looks like a bad effort on your part. Like we hate European stuff so here's a hastily put together thing and that will do. Kind of like turning up to a posh dinner party with petrol station flowers.
Sam Ryder was great, positive energy and my god did he promote the UK and represent it so well, I was so happy to see it!

There were plenty of sexy gay dance routines so I don't think it was that.

But that's my point. This wasn't a sexy gay dance routine. It was way beyond that and didn't fit with the colourful camp Eurovision vibe.

This years 0 was justified in my opinion
Weak song, weak performer
Went for shock value and staging and that wasn't enough to save a terrible entry.
Eurovision - entries should go one of 2 ways
Strong song, amazing vocalist or ridiculous and entertaining- this year our entry was none of these for us.

@Bluemonkey2029 I think your analysis is right, marmite is the way to go from now on.

Ireland has been pleasant blandsville for years, this year was different and many people hated it. But we (I'm irish) got through for the first time in a few years. I think we've only qualified twice since 2010.

Also the countries who automatically qualify don't have the benefit of the second performance, this counts for a lot. I find myself thinking oh yeah i remember I liked this one. Plus many songs are more impactful second time round, they take a few listens to sink in. Another point is i think it annoys people when a country automatically gets to the final every year, it takes away a lot of goodwill and makes you think so what if they don't do well they'll be here next year regardless.

I agree that there was no reasonable explanation why We Will Rave got stiffed by the audience vote. And Who The Hell is Edgar was a quirky cracker, which sank without trace. You can usually see why songs get votes, but it's often a mystery why they don't (apart from Jemini and Josh).

I think We Will Rave got lost among the several other entries with a woman in a sparkly outfit singing a catchy pop song surrounded by five dancers.

I agree that there was no reasonable explanation why We Will Rave got stiffed by the audience vote.

Will probably be a banger in the continental clubs this summer.

@Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong

I think it is political, UK did woefully around Brexit. I don't think it would have mattered what song was put forward.

Rubbish! As a pp has said (and so did I,) Europe/Europeans don't hate us. They don't even think about us FFS! And most of them don't give a shit that we left the EU.

But every once in a while a brilliant or catchy song comes along like Spaceman or Love shine a light and that overrides the other issues.

So even though they ALLLLL hate us, they give us a chance if we have a decent song?!

LOL! Do give over! What a ludicrous thing to say! 😆

His vocals were shocking, weak, wobbly and flat!

He was awful, voice poor.

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The UK getting NIL points is nothing new. Honestly growing up that’s all I remember!

Except that’s categorically not true, we have only ever received 0 points twice which was in 2003 & 2021.

@QueenOfTheLabyrinth I think what the OP is referring to is back in the day when they would read out every single country in turn and what that country has score it (back when there were far fewer countries in the comp) So you get many "Royaume-Uni, nil point" throughout the evening.

Yes! I also remember lots of ‘nul points’ in the past, it must be this.

Except Eurovision has never announced "nul points" and only ever announced "zero points" when they started separating jury and televotes in the last couple of years (and that's only in English). In days gone by they only announced those who got points, not those who didn't.

Explained here under "scoring no points". So "nul points" isn't a thing, and "zero points" to the UK has only ever been announced twice: James Newman 2021 (who also scored 0 with the juries, but that's not announced) and Olly Alexander this year.

That's so weird! I'm sure I remember the French "nil points" mentioned in Eurovision all the time! Maybe that's something which became synonymous with it, but never happened in the program.

Yea it's a Eurovision trope but not based in what actually happens.