Do you think Michael Jackson was guilty?

[InnocentOrGuilty]

Of the sexual abuse of boys.
I'm interested in a poll.
G = you think he was definitely guilty
I = you think he was innocent
(Stemming from a debate with DH last night!)

Guilty as hell. I can't stand his creepy little girl voice or his chalky Voldemort face and I wish the radio stations would stop playing his "music",

G
i can’t stand him. If I hear his music on the radio I have to switch it off.

Guilty as fuck. I am another one who cringes when I hear his music. I don't understand why people still defend him either. His behaviour towards children was weird at best and predatory&creepy as fuck!

He never denied nose jobs but the rest is vitiligo and make up

Definitely guilty in my opinion.

G

100% agree. Shameful individuals. Those poor kids.

G

For someone “not interested in sex at all” he had an awfully large and varied porn library.

Mark Lester , who plays down a lot of Michael's behaviour has said his skin was the result of constantly bleaching and trying to get the tone even. Vitiligo cause patches and when it started to be visible on his face he became obsessed with getting it all even.
It wasn't make up, he made his skin a grey colour, he used skin bleaching and chemical peels to the extreme.

And Michael said he had two nose jobs, which isn't true. He had cheek implants, a dimple put in his chin and lots of other surgeries.

G. As sin.

I've rewatched Leaving Neverland off the back of this thread. Wade and James are telling the truth, I'm certain of it. All the footage of him out and about with his child of the moment, like they're a couple, is truly sickening. The fact that so many people believe he was sharing his bed with these boys every night for months at a time and it was innocent is crazy.

G as sin.

Guilty AF. That said, I’d be sad if all the back catalogue was consigned to a ‘never to be heard again’ vault, not because I’m a massive MJ fan, but because if we apply that logic across the board we would lose so much. Just off the top of my head, David Bowie, the Rolling Stones, Jerry Lee Lewis, Ryan Adams. I should say these aren’t all paedophiles exactly, but it is well documented that sex with teenagers took place. There are of course many, many more musicians, actors, artists whose works we enjoy in spite of their sexual predilections.

Hell yes, we won’t listen to him. Sad but true.

GUILTY with a capital G… and I find it really uncomfortable when people play his music.

Guilty, IMO.

As for his music, I don't know. I'm not a fan, although I do like a few of his songs. He was obviously talented, can't be denied. I have no feelings if his songs come on radio, nor do I change the station. Doesn't bother me, personally.

I'm not British and had no clue who Gary Glitter even was prior to coming to the UK. He's virtually unknown in my country (European), therefore I haven't heard a single song of his. But if it would come up on the radio, I don't think it would bother me either.

I'm a fan of Polanski's movies. Yes, he's a criminal scumbag, but he's also a great movie director. I also love Kevin Spacey's acting, he was in lots of movies I like, no one does menacing, pass-agg sarcasm quite as well as he. I still watch his work.

Lots of famous people did some highly dubious shit (or were straight up criminals), so it's difficult. For example, I disagree with current antics of Al Pacino ('granddaughter' partner and young baby in his 80s), not a crime, but truly gross. Yet I'm a huge fan of his acting. There are tons of other examples, much worse. David Bowie, Jagger, Presley, Kiedis, other usual suspects. So.. It's complicated.

Yes guilty and so was his father of abusing all the Jackson children. One of the sisters spoke out about it

Innocent. After someone dies, the truth comes out. It's still rumours and hear-say. No proof. Just because he was weird doesn't mean he was a pedo.

Well.tberes weird and weird he openly said it was a beautiful thing to sleep.with children children who were not related to him .

Great would you let him baby sit?

G - Anyone who has watched Leaving Neverland could not possibly be unpersuaded of his guilt when hearing from the victims about how MJ groomed them and their families.

Can't take the opinion of someone seriously when they don't even know the name of the mockumentary "Leaving Neverland". It's riddled with proven lies throughout and was the most shameful piece of biased tripe ever put on TV screens. It never would have been made if Michael was alive. They'd have been successfully sued and the "director" said so. The dead have no legal protection so they can say whatever they like.

If he was still alive now I don't think he'd be as popular still, people have little tolerance for grown men sleeping in beds with little boys they aren't related to these days

All the new name changes on this thread as well , what a surprise

G
And Lord knows why they carry on playing his music