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Ukraine Invasion: Part 49

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MagicFox · 09/05/2024 13:25

Welcome to our 49th thread with the usual thanks to all regular contributors and lurkers 🇺🇦

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ShambalaAnna · 27/05/2024 15:48

L1ttledrummergirl · 27/05/2024 15:18

Our new comrade is certainly appearing knowledgeable about a variety of subjects, especially how well Russia is doing compared to the Wests failures.

They've shoe horned a lot in in the last 10 days that they've been posting.

What is your problem?

notimagain · 27/05/2024 16:18

ShambalaAnna · 27/05/2024 14:46

Noted. Will reduce input where it gets too in the weeds.

I think if you want to be technical and actually debate that side of things maybe go and have a look at sites like arrse (Brit centric), that place is full of all sorts of knowledgeable techie people with some very interesting backgrounds.

MissConductUS · 27/05/2024 16:49

notimagain · 27/05/2024 16:18

I think if you want to be technical and actually debate that side of things maybe go and have a look at sites like arrse (Brit centric), that place is full of all sorts of knowledgeable techie people with some very interesting backgrounds.

Tanknet is armor centric, but looks similar.

https://www.tanknet.org

Glock talk has a broader topic range, but seems less active.

https://www.glocktalk.com/forums/us-army-forum.174/

Both are US Army centric.

tanknet.org

https://www.tanknet.org

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 27/05/2024 16:58

Unfortunately, ShambalaAnna, this thread has been plagued in the past with a disturbed individual who has consistently dissed the US and the UK and Europe, gone into way too much military detail and been profoundly and offensively opinionated. You're getting the backlash.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 27/05/2024 17:19

Kyiv Independent Telegram Highlights

⚡️Russian shell production three https://kyivindependent.com/sky-news-russian-shell-production-three-times-greater-than-ukraines-allies/ times greater than Ukraine's allies.
Using publicly available data, consulting firm Bain & Company claims that Russian factories can produce or refurbish 4.5 million 152 mm shells for $1,000 per round this year. European countries and the U.S. are only expected to produce 1.3 million 155 mm shells combined at an average cost of $4,000 per unit.

⚡️ NYT: Russia steps up sabotage operations in Europe to undermine Ukraine aid, intelligence officials say.
U.S. and allied intelligence officials have noted a growing number of low-level sabotage operations in Europe that seem to be a part of Russia's effort to undermine assistance for Ukraine, the New York Times (NYT) reported on May 26. https://kyivindependent.com/nyt-russia-steps-up-sabotage-operations-in-europe-to-undermine-ukraine-aid/

⚡️ Bloomberg: EU wants to follow up peace summit with conference with Russia https://kyivindependent.com/bloomberg-eu-wants-to-follow-up-peace-summit-with-meeting-with-russian-participation/ in autumn, sources say.
The EU is discussing how to progress from Ukraine's global peace summit in June to a possible meeting with Russian participation in Saudi Arabia in autumn, Bloomberg reported on May 27, citing undisclosed official sources.

⚡️ Russia claims capture of 2 villages in Kharkiv, Donetsk oblasts, Ukraine hasn't confirmed. https://kyivindependent.com/russia-claims-capture-of-2-villages-in-kharkiv-donetsk-oblasts-ukraine-hasnt-confirmed/

⚡️NATO Parliamentary Assembly supports Ukraine's right to hit targets inside Russia using Western arms.
NATO allies should lift restrictions that prohibit Ukraine's use of Western-supplied weapons against military targets inside Russia, the NATO Parliamentary Assembly said in a declaration adopted on May 27. https://kyivindependent.com/nato-parliamentary-assembly-strikes/

⚡️Border Guard: Buildup of Russian troops along Sumy border not enough for major attack. https://kyivindependent.com/border-guard-buildup-of-russian-troops-along-sumy-border-not-enough-for-major-attack/

There has been a sharp increase in Russian troop activity in the direction of Kupiansk, Kharkiv Oblast, the General Staff of Ukraine's Armed Forces reported on May 26. https://kyivindependent.com/general-staff-activity-of-russian-troops-increases-in-kupiansk-direction/

⚡️France will send https://kyivindependent.com/france-to-send-instructors-to-ukraine-for-soldiers-training-surskyi-says/ instructors to Ukraine to train Ukrainian soldiers, Syrskyi says.

⚡️Media: Spain to unveil $1.2 billion aid package https://kyivindependent.com/what-to-expect-from-zelenskys-visit-to-spain-today/ for Ukraine.
The package will reportedly include over a dozen Patriot anti-aircraft missiles and 19 second-hand German-made Leopard 2A4s, as well as other Spanish-made weapons.

⚡️ Zelensky arrives in Spain for official visit. https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-arrives-in-spain/

⚡️ Ukraine, Spain sign bilateral security https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-spain-sign-bilateral-security-agreement/ agreement.

⚡️Putin arrives in Uzbekistan, marking third international visit https://kyivindependent.com/putin-arrives-in-uzbekistan-marking-third-international-visit-of-his-new-term/ of his new term.

The Ukrainian government and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) have started talks on the fourth revision of the Extended Fund Facility (EFF) program, the Finance Ministry reported on May 27.
After the review, nearly $2.2 billion in funds may be allocated in June under the EFF, a four-year funding agreement that will allow Ukraine to access $15.6 billion in financial aid in regular installments. https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-imf-begin-talks-on-new-tranche-within-extended-fund-facility/

⚡️ Source: Ukrainian drone strikes Russian radar https://kyivindependent.com/source-ukrainian-drone-strikes-russian-early-warning-radar-traveling-record-breaking-1-800-kilometers/ traveling record-breaking 1,800 kilometers.
A long-range drone operated by Ukraine's military intelligence (HUR) attacked early-warning Voronezh M radar in Russia's Orsk city in Orenburg Oblast on May 26, a source in the agency told the Kyiv Independent on May 27.

⚡️ German FM announces additional $65 million https://kyivindependent.com/german-fm-announces-additional-65-million-in-humanitarian-aid-to-ukraine/ in humanitarian aid to Ukraine.

⚡️A Russian attack on May 26 hit the Zaporizhzhia International Airport, said Volodymyr Marchuk, an official at the Zaporizhzhia Oblast Military Administration on May 27. https://kyivindependent.com/russian-strike-hits-zaporizhzhia-airport/

⚡️Russian ministries propose Putin remove Taliban https://kyivindependent.com/proprose-putin-remove-taliban-from-list-of-banned-organizations/ from list of terrorist organizations.

⚡️Lithuania's incumbent president declares https://kyivindependent.com/nauseda-claims-landslide-victory-in-lithuanian-presidential-election/ victory in runoff vote.

⚡️ EU sanctions Medvedchuk https://kyivindependent.com/eu-sanctions-medvedchuk-marchevskyi-voice-of-europe/ Marchevskyi, Voice of Europe.

⚡️Defense Minister Umerov: Russia attacked Ukraine with 10,000 guided bombs https://kyivindependent.com/umerov-russia-attacked-ukraine-with-10-000-guided-bombs-this-year/ this year.
Russia typically uses laser-guided or satellite-guided KAB bombs, with payloads ranging from 250 to 1,500 kilograms, against Ukrainian military and civilian targets.

⚡️Scholz against https://kyivindependent.com/taggeschau-scholz-against-ukraine-using-german-weapons-to-strike-russian-territory/ Ukraine using German weapons to strike Russian territory.

⚡️ Scholz: Russian casualties amount to 24,000 soldiers per month.
Russia suffers around 24,000 soldiers killed or seriously injured per month during its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said, as reported by n-tv on May 26 https://kyivindependent.com/scholz-russian-casualties-amount-to-24-000-soldiers-per-month/

⚡️Russian attack on Kharkiv Oblast kills one and injuries two.
⚡️ Russian forces struck 10 communities in Ukraine's northeastern Sumy Oblast in 28 separate attacks throughout the day, the regional administration reported on May 26. No casualties were reported.
⚡️ Russian attacks against Ukraine kill 7 injure 15 over past day.
⚡️ Russian attack on Mykolaiv Oblast town kills 3, injures 6
⚡️Russia attacks Kharkiv with guided aerial bomb, kills 1, injures at least 11.

⚡️Prosecutors: Death toll in Kharkiv supermarket attack rises to 18.

Ragnar Bjartur Gudmundsson 🇺🇦
■ Casualties >1k, engagements slightly below average
■ 12 missiles intercepted, drones & special equipment above average
■ Good increase in 🇺🇦 strikes & improved strike ratio
■ Janovsky: 85 🇷🇺 17 🇺🇦; 30-day ratio now at 2.4x

Ukraine Invasion: Part 49
Ukraine Invasion: Part 49
DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 27/05/2024 18:05

UNITED24 Media Telegram Highlights

French President Emmanuel Macron will visit Germany on a three-day state visit, marking the first such trip by a French president in the last 24 years, according to Reuters.
Macron's visit, which will also include a bilateral intergovernmental meeting, is intended as a gesture of unity between Germany and France.

🇺🇸 The US has announced that it will be represented at the Peace Summit in Switzerland next month, but it is currently unknown who will be attending.

The war in Ukraine has exposed a critical vulnerability in the allies' plans to arm Ukraine: a shortage of explosives needed to produce shells and missiles. Each artillery shell requires approximately 10.8 kg of high explosives, such as TNT, Octogen, or Hexogen, and throwing projectiles over long distances also necessitates significant amounts of propellants. The situation is even more dire for other munitions, such as the Storm Shadow missile, which has a high-explosive warhead weighing 450 kg. The challenge lies in the limited capacity of explosives manufacturers to ramp up production.
Restarting these mothballed plants is not a simple task. It requires significant retooling and rebuilding of capacity. Additionally, the industry faces a shortage of skilled workers, as older engineers retire and fewer young people enter the profession. The supply chain for critical raw materials, such as chemical precursors and cotton fibers, is also strained. Nitric acid, essential for producing nitrocellulose, is in short supply due to its use in fertilizer production. Cotton fibers are predominantly imported from China, adding to the supply chain complexity.

Russia is conducting sabotage operations in Europe to disrupt military supplies to Ukraine, according to a report by the New York Times. These operations include incidents such as the arson of a warehouse in England, a paint factory in Poland, residential buildings in Latvia, and an Ikea store in Lithuania. Additionally, Russian agents have been arrested on charges of planning attacks on American military bases.
While these actions might appear isolated, U.S. and European security officials assert they are part of a coordinated Russian effort to impede arms transfers to Kyiv and to foster the impression of growing domestic opposition to supporting Ukraine. A key tactic in the Russian sabotage campaign is the recruitment of local residents in European countries. This approach aims to make the attacks more challenging to detect and to create the illusion that they stem from internal dissent against assistance to Ukraine.

While most of the public attention is focused on the fighting in the north of Kharkiv region, Chasiv Yar and Ocheretyne, Russia's active assault operations have begun in the Kupyansk direction.

Biden called Putin a "cruel tyrant" and confirmed the unwavering support of the United States for Ukraine in its war with Russia.

Denmark has initiated a joint action plan with several EU countries to integrate Ukraine into the European defense industry, facilitating its access to EU defense innovations, Danish Defense Minister Troels Lund Poulsen announced.
The defense ministers of Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, and Poland have sent a joint letter to the European Commission, the European External Action Service, the European Defense Agency, and other European countries. This letter contains proposals for cooperation with the Ukrainian defense industry.

The Russian Federation is assisting North Korea in developing a spy satellite, according to a report by the South Korean agency Yonhap, which cites a source within the country's Ministry of Defense.
North Korea successfully launched its first reconnaissance satellite into orbit last November and is currently working on a second one. Following a promise by President Vladimir Putin to help with North Korea's space program, Russian specialists were sent to the DPRK to assist in the development of the new satellite.

The new Spanish aid package includes the delivery of a second batch of Patriot anti-aircraft missiles, adding to those delivered in April. Overall, Spain's Ministry of Defense will provide Ukraine with a dozen of these missiles. Additionally, Spain will send 19 more older Leopard 2A4 main battle tanks, supplementing the ten tanks delivered last year.

The European Union has approved a new law aimed at limiting methane emissions, which will have significant implications for gas imports, including those from Russia. Starting in 2030, the legislation will impose restrictions on methane emissions associated with the import of oil and gas into Europe.

The Finnish Parliament is considering a draft of a new deportation law that would enable Finnish border guards to return asylum seekers arriving through the eastern border back to Russia. Currently, Finland is obligated to accept all migrants seeking asylum until their applications are processed, according to Finnish Minister of the Interior Marie Rantanen in an interview with Yle TV and Radio Company.

Ukraine allows Russian prisoners of war (POWs) to call home, but Ukrainian POWs do not receive the same opportunity, according to an AP report. Journalists have highlighted that Ukraine permits Russian POWs to stay in touch with their families, as exemplified by 26-year-old Alexander from Kursk, whose ability to call home helps him cope with captivity. This measure is meant to offer a lifeline to captured soldiers, which is not available to Ukrainian POWs.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 27/05/2024 18:17

Live: Ukraine Telegram Highlights Thread

🇩🇪Olaf Scholz spoke out https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-ukraine-sonntag-430.html#Scholz against Ukraine using Western weapons to strike targets in Russia. The goal of his policy toward Ukraine is “to prevent this war from turning into a major war,” the German news service Tagesschau quoted Scholz as saying.

🇸🇪Sweden's Defense Minister has called https://www.hallandsposten.se/asikter/ledare/landgrans-ska-inte-skydda-rysk-angripare.09212cc1-6c94-4389-8b1a-2956a1aa9f9e for strikes on Russian territory with weapons handed over to Ukraine.

A DIU drone attacked the Voronezh M long-range target detection radar station in the city of Orsk, Orenburg oblast, LIGA. net reports, citing sources in Ukrainian intelligence.
The station is located 1.8 thousand kilometers from Ukraine.
The publication notes that Voronezh M is part of a family of Russian long-range stationary over-the-horizon radars. They are designed to detect space and aerodynamic objects, including ballistic and cruise missiles.

There could have been many more victims in the Kharkiv Epicenter hypermarket
The prosecutor's office reported that an unexploded aerial bomb was found 80 meters from the hypermarket.
▪️As of 17:00, rescuers continue to search for the dead and the remains of the victims at the ruins of the Epicenter. The fate of five people is still unknown. 17 people are confirmed dead and 48 injured.

Ukraine-Liveblog: ++ Macron warnt vor Nachlassen der Ukraine-Hilfen ++

Frankreichs Präsident Macron hat davor gewarnt, in der Unterstützung der Ukraine nachzulassen. Kanzler Scholz sieht derzeit keinen Anlass, das Einsatzgebiet westlicher Waffen auszuweiten. Alle Entwicklungen vom Sonntag zum Nachlesen.

https://www.tagesschau.de/newsticker/liveblog-ukraine-sonntag-430.html#Scholz

blueshoes · 27/05/2024 20:42

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-26-2024

Key Takeaways:

  • Russian forces are reportedly concentrating forces of unspecified size in western Belgorod Oblast near the border with Ukraine, likely to fix and draw Ukrainian forces to the area and prepare for offensive operations that aim to expand the Russian foothold in the international border area in northeastern Ukraine.
  • Western officials continue to publicly debate Ukraine's right to use Western-provided weapons to strike military targets in Russia amid Russian efforts to persuade the West to continue its self-imposed limitations and divide the NATO alliance.
  • Russia's defense industrial base (DIB) will reportedly manufacture and refurbish three times as many artillery shells as the West will produce in 2024, although Russian shells reportedly suffer from quality-control issues and Ukrainian artillery is reportedly more precise than Russian artillery.
  • Kremlin officials continue to indicate that Russia is not interested in meaningful negotiations with Ukraine and promote Kremlin information operations that aim to push the West to make concessions on Ukraine's sovereign territory and people.
  • Russian forces recently made confirmed advances near Svatove, Avdiivka, and Donetsk City.
  • Former Wagner Group fighters reportedly continue to form new units under Rosgvardia and Chechen Akhmat Spetsnaz.
Ukraine Invasion: Part 49
ShambalaAnna · 27/05/2024 22:48

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 27/05/2024 16:58

Unfortunately, ShambalaAnna, this thread has been plagued in the past with a disturbed individual who has consistently dissed the US and the UK and Europe, gone into way too much military detail and been profoundly and offensively opinionated. You're getting the backlash.

Thanks for elucidating.

@notimagain@MissConductUS Appreciate the links. Aware of at least ARRSE, which was a haunt a few years back. Lots of serving people on the War Thunder game forums too, usually leaking state secrets to win Internet points amusingly.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 28/05/2024 07:39

Interesting thread about the feel on the streets in Kyiv.

@Lucian_Kim

Having just returned from Kyiv, I’d like to share some main takeaways from my meetings with political and military actors, people both supportive and critical of the Zelensky administration, as well as ordinary Ukrainians I met along the way.

Most remarkable is Ukrainians’ resilience and unity in the third year of a relentless, unprovoked attack by Russia. Although there is grumbling—Ukraine is a democracy—there is broad consensus for the need to keep fighting and awareness of the dire consequences of losing the war.

People in Kyiv take constant air raid alarms with sangfroid. They are confident in the air defenses around the capital. But one old acquaintance said she thinks a second Russian attack on Kyiv is possible—something she wouldn’t have said a year ago.

It doesn’t take long for people to express frustration with the government and voice the suspicion that someone must be profiting from the war. But even if Zelensky is losing popularity, Ukrainians understand that this is no time for elections.

Under fire and partial occupation, Ukraine cannot hold new elections. Millions of people are displaced from their homes. There is no way to guarantee security. The main peril is that a divisive election campaign could tear apart the country from the inside.

The Kremlin is spreading the idea that Zelensky is illegitimate—ridiculous considering Putin has just tricked his way into a fifth term. A fierce political opponent of Zelensky told me elections cannot be held until 3 months after a total ceasefire and the lifting of martial law.

Surprisingly, there is little nervousness about the prospect of a second Trump presidency. Given how disdainfully Trump treated Ukraine in 2019, I find that naive. But many Ukrainians are fed up with the Biden administration’s caution and think Trump could shake things up.

Everyone in Kyiv is talking about Andriy Yermak, Zelensky’s powerful chief of staff. At one dinner party, Yermak was ridiculed as “the real first lady” (among other things). Defenders of the presidency say Yermak is a scapegoat and the man who gets things done.

There is friction between Zelensky’s office and the State Department. US diplomats are seen as being stuck on conventional talking points (civil society, anti-corruption) when Ukraine is in an existential struggle. Not surprisingly, Yermak prefers going straight to Jake Sullivan.

In an effort to step back into the global limelight, Zelensky is placing inflated hopes on a Swiss peace conference next month. Although his administration sees it as a way for Ukraine to regain agency, the conference most likely will end in big declarations and little deeds.

The US is curbing Ukraine’s expectations ahead of NATO’s 75th anniversary summit in Washington. Ukrainians joke that NATO stands for “No Action, Talk Only.” Pragmatic Ukrainians say a bilateral security agreement with the US is the best Ukraine can hope for in Biden’s first term.

I heard grudging respect for Russia’s ability to switch to a war footing and adapt to a changing battlefield. Some expressed frustration that Ukraine’s economy had not been put on “military rails,” others that red tape was hampering Ukrainians’ amazing ability to self-organize.

Putin killed the Russian language in Kyiv. In 20 years of traveling there, I always heard more Russian on the street than Ukrainian. On this visit, I heard very little, especially among young Ukrainians. I promise to start learning Ukrainian—you guys let me be lazy.

Mobilization affects all Ukrainians. Everyone lives in the shadow of war when a father, son, brother, husband or friend could be called up. My best Ukrainian friend takes it fatalistically—even though he travels abroad for work and has had many chances to dodge the draft.

Many people believe Ukraine has to muddle through to the start of next year, when things have a chance of looking up. “Everything is going to be ok,” my old Ukrainian acquaintance said. “The question is at what cost.” END

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https://x.com/Lucian_Kim

Arconialiving · 28/05/2024 10:01

Thanks for sharing @DucklingSwimmingInstructress

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 28/05/2024 10:08

Kyiv Independent Telegram Highlights

⚡️Russia making gains due to Western restrictions https://kyivindependent.com/latvian-president-cnn/ on where Ukraine can strike, Latvian president says.

⚡️EU ministers frustrated as Hungary blocks $7 billion https://kyivindependent.com/media-eu-ministers-frustrated-as-hungary-blocks-7-billion-in-aid-for-ukraine/ in military aid for Ukraine.
Hungary's chief of diplomacy received sharp criticism from his EU colleagues on May 27 over Budapest stalling 6.5 billion euros (around $7.1 billion) in military aid for Ukraine, Le Monde reported, citing its sources.
"Tempers ran quite high," a diplomatic source told Reuters, which reported that according to many officials, "the exchanges were among the most heated in years among EU foreign ministers."

⚡️ Netherlands wants to deliver additional Patriot system to Ukraine jointly with partners.
The country has identified which partners could contribute parts and ammunition from their own stocks and called on them to join the initiative. https://kyivindependent.com/netherlands-wants-to-jointly-deliver-additional-patriot-system-to-ukraine/

⚡️Poland to restrict https://kyivindependent.com/poland-to-restrict-movements-of-russian-diplomats-moscow-promises-retaliation/* movements of Russian diplomats, Moscow promises retaliation*

⚡️ Russia may launch psychological operation about opening new front from Belarus, Kyiv warns. https://kyivindependent.com/kyiv-warns-about-russias-psychological-operation-on-opening-new-front-on-border-with-belarus/

⚡️ Belgium to provide Ukraine with 30 F-16 aircraft by 2028, first should arrive in 2024 Belgian Foreign Minister Hadja Lahbib told the Belgian broadcaster RTL on May 28. https://kyivindependent.com/belgium-to-provide-ukraine-with-30-f-16-fighter-jets-by-2028/

⚡️Ukraine, Belgium https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-belgium-sign-long-term-security-deal/ sign long-term security deal.
Belgium becomes the 11th country to sign such a deal, along with Spain, the U.K., Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, Canada, the Netherlands, Finland, and Latvia.
Under the agreement, Belgium will allocate at least 977 million euros (around $1 billion) in military aid for Ukraine in 2024.

⚡️Poland buys https://kyivindependent.com/poland-to-buy-long-range-missiles-for-f-16s-from-us/ long-range missiles for F-16s from US.
"The war in Ukraine has shown how important it is to be able to hit targets located even very far from the front line," the Polish Defense Ministry said.

⚡️Latvia to invest $22 million in drone coalition for Ukraine in 2024. https://kyivindependent.com/latvia-drone-coalition/

⚡️Kyiv, Paris still discussing instructors' presence in Ukraine, Defense Ministry says. https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-france-still-discuss-visit-of-foreign-instructors-to-train-ukrainian-soldiers-kyiv-says/

⚡️ Convicts to serve in separate units of Ukrainian forces https://kyivindependent.com/prisoners-to-serve-in-separate-units-of-ukrainian-forces-justice-minister-says/ justice minister says. At least 613 prisoners had been released thanks to the new conscription law as of May 27, according to Maliuska.

⚡️ Russian attacks against Ukraine kill 5, injure 32 https://kyivindependent.com/russian-attacks-against-ukraine-kill-5-injure-32-over-past-day/ over past day.
⚡️Russia attacks 8 communities in Sumy Oblast.
⚡️Russian attack on Kharkiv Oblast injures man.

⚡️Reintegration Ministry: Ukraine returned home an 11-year-old boy who had been separated from his mother in Russian-occupied Donetsk Oblast for two years, the Reintegration Ministry reported on May 27. https://kyivindependent.com/reintegration-ministry-boy-returned-donetsk-oblast/ [ Poor 9 year old boy, separated from his mother for two years. Poor mother, she must have been going frantic]

Ukraine Invasion: Part 49
DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 28/05/2024 10:11

Arconialiving · 28/05/2024 10:01

Thanks for sharing @DucklingSwimmingInstructress

Pleasure. It was a slightly different perspective to normal.

I wonder how @Mb76 is doing and her family, and @MMBaranova (sp)

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 28/05/2024 10:23

UNITED24 Media Telegram

Today, EU defense ministers will meet with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg and Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umyerov.

🇮🇷 For the first time, Iran has supplied Russia with the latest aerial bombs for attacks on Ukraine, according to Bild.
A heavy Iranian Qods Mohajer-6 drone crashed in the Kursk region the day before. It was carrying the latest Iranian guided air bombs, Qaem-5 ("Qaim-5"), which were only put into service in Iran in 2019. The drone was apparently intended to attack the Sumy region, but it crashed for unknown reasons.
Previously, the Russian Armed Forces had not used high-precision Qaem-5 bombs in Ukraine. Journalist Julian Röpcke noted that their use indicates a "new level" of military cooperation between Tehran and Moscow.

During the quarter, Iran increased its stockpiles of enriched uranium by 20.6 kg compared to February 2024, according to a confidential report from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), as reported by the Associated Press. This uranium is enriched to nearly weapons-grade levels of 60%.
Currently, Iran has over 142 kg of uranium enriched to 60%. The total stockpile of all types of enriched uranium in Tehran increased by 675.8 kg during the quarter, reaching 6201.3 kg in May.
The IAEA notes that from 42 kg of uranium enriched to 60%, it is theoretically possible to create one atomic bomb if further enriched to 90%.

130,000 war crimes. Millions of lives ruined. The world has seen so many horrible things done by Russian soldiers. Now, it's time for justice. The First Global Peace Summit, organized by Ukraine and Switzerland, will take place in Bürgenstock on June 15 and 16. This is where all democratic leaders will gather to restore world order and finally bring peace to the world. The aggressor must pay for all the damage caused! https://t.me/United24media/22200

UNITED24Media

130,000 war crimes. Millions of lives ruined. The world has seen so many horrible things done by Russian soldiers. Now, it's time for justice. The First Global Peace Summit, organized by Ukraine and Switzerland, will take place in Bürgenstock on June 1...

https://t.me/United24media/22200

DesdamonasHandkerchief · 28/05/2024 10:33

⚡️EU ministers frustrated as Hungary blocks $7 billion kyivindependent.com/media-eu-ministers-frustrated-as-hungary-blocks-7-billion-in-aid-for-ukraine/ in military aid for Ukraine.
Hungary's chief of diplomacy received sharp criticism from his EU colleagues on May 27 over Budapest stalling 6.5 billion euros (around $7.1 billion) in military aid for Ukraine, Le Monde reported, citing its sources.
"Tempers ran quite high," a diplomatic source told Reuters, which reported that according to many officials, "the exchanges were among the most heated in years among EU foreign ministers."

It's time for the EU to grow a pair and stop allowing Russian leaning Hungary to block aid to Ukraine.

Putin mustn't be able to believe his luck that the rest of the EU allow themselves to be hamstrung by Orban and his cronies.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 28/05/2024 10:34

Hungary is working closely with Russia and with China.

It's insane, absolutely insane, that it's allowed to stay in the EU.

ShambalaAnna · 28/05/2024 10:54

Orban has been skirting the border of playing both sides for a while now. Unsure what the EU could do at this point outside maybe some kind of sanctions on Hungary itself.

Mb76 · 28/05/2024 12:23

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 28/05/2024 10:11

Pleasure. It was a slightly different perspective to normal.

I wonder how @Mb76 is doing and her family, and @MMBaranova (sp)

Thank you for checking in 💙💛
my only family left in the temporary occupied part of Ukraine (Donetsk city) - is my father whom I cut contact with, and my maternal aunt and cousin. They have always been pro -ru and nothing changed there. The rest of my family are all in Germany.
I still talk to friends and colleagues from Kyiv, their reports are on par with the update you’ve shared upthread.
they are resilient and positive and everyone works hard in their jobs but also does a lot of volunteering and fundraising. They are pulling together. I’m so humbled by this.

Colleagues are having a difficult time (retail, non essential) but are keeping shops open and praying for customers to survive the summer.

DucklingSwimmingInstructress · 28/05/2024 15:43

Im so so glad to hear your family are in Germany now. I'm sorry to hear about your father though. Family schisms are painful in a way nothing else is.

Naem · 28/05/2024 16:05

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 26/05/2024 20:51

Well, yes,indeed. And there's no point pretending they would make the least difference to anything, either. Which is why I find Sunak particularly dispiriting: who is he hoping to impress with this nonsense anyway? He must think there are an awful lot of idiots among the electorate. Idiots with no relations.

Well I confess I have to disagree, IF it is done well (which I doubt it would be), it can be an extraordinarily positive thing both for the individuals involved and for the country, having seen it first hand. It can give 18 year olds extraordinarily transferrable skills, maturity, responsibility and generally be transformative. But there has to be serious investment in it, and motivation to make it a success.

Not sure if you are aware, but the situation in Israel is like this. There is mandatory conscription for both men and women on turning 18, but, as you might also know, there has been historically an exemption for ultra Orthodox men while they engage in religious studies (yeshiva) (Note that the Supreme Court has repeated told the government that this exemption is illegal as it does not share the burden of defending the country, and the last exemption ran out in March, there is a lot of political stuff going on about that, which would be an essay in itself). But for women there has traditionally been a flat out religious exemption, which ultra Orthodox 18 year old women take advantage of, they apply for and get an immediate exemption.
However the religious Zionist community, who have always supported army service, found themselves in a dilemma many years ago, because while they agreed with and sent their boys to the army (sometimes with interleaving yeshiva - so that there is a five year programme called hesder instead of the 2.5-3 year programme most boys do of army, where they spend half their time doing yeshiva study and half their time doing army), they did not feel comfortable sending 18 year old girls off to the army. On the other hand, ideologically, they didn't feel comfortable not having them contribute and opting out the way the ultra Orthodox were. So National Service was set up for these girls. And these days the bat sheirut (daughter of service) girls are everywhere. When my son was volunteering on the ambulances, just about every ambulance during the day (they are not allowed to do night shift) had a bat sherut. And the hospitals and care homes and disabled children's homes and disadvantaged schools and environmental organisations and just about anything you could possible volunteer for are full of them. But the Religious Zionist community was ideologically dedicated to making sure that even though their girls didn't go to the army, they would be seen to be making a contribution, and therefore there was an ideological determination to make sure this worked, and that people were matched up with jobs that used and developed their skills and ability (which is also very important with conscription, obviously). Of course, there are some positions that are much more sought after than others, and it is like applying for a real job to get those, and some of them are much duller and less sort after. But it is highly formative and gives far more in terms of skills and career planning than anything in High School - Israeli High School is, to be honest, pretty poor by comparision with England or Europe or just about any developed country I would suspect. So much so that the bright ones give up on much of high school and start taking university level courses in their teens - particularly in maths, science and computing, with the added incentive that if you are far enough along in your university course when you turn 18, you can have an exemption from the army until you finish, and then you are likely to be drafted into something like the engineering corp or a unit that uses your computing and maths skills. So as a country Israel really relies on the army to provide all sorts of skills that High School doesn't (including basic literacy for those that don't have that - I know someone whose job in the army was to teach basic literacy to conscripts who had not managed to get it in school). But part of the way it works is that where and how you serve has a big impact on the courses you can get into at university or how easy it is to get a job, the more prestigious the unit, the easier the job market. So while obviously there is the stick of required conscription, there are large carrots if choices are made wisely in terms of training and skill development and ultimately likely job success.

I can't see any of this as being reproducable here, not even the National Service bit, but theoretically it can be hugely beneficial to both the individual and the country. It is a way of making sure you have virtually no NEETs (except amongst the ultra orthodox, where there are lots who are nominally in yeshiva to get their exemption, but doing very little learning). But it needs a very serious investment of money, time and thought not to mention infrustructure.

ShambalaAnna · 28/05/2024 16:07

Mb76 · 28/05/2024 12:23

Thank you for checking in 💙💛
my only family left in the temporary occupied part of Ukraine (Donetsk city) - is my father whom I cut contact with, and my maternal aunt and cousin. They have always been pro -ru and nothing changed there. The rest of my family are all in Germany.
I still talk to friends and colleagues from Kyiv, their reports are on par with the update you’ve shared upthread.
they are resilient and positive and everyone works hard in their jobs but also does a lot of volunteering and fundraising. They are pulling together. I’m so humbled by this.

Colleagues are having a difficult time (retail, non essential) but are keeping shops open and praying for customers to survive the summer.

Do you happen to know how people feel about Z-man right now? Some of my contacts in Kyiv and some Telegram groups I follow have mixed signals.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 28/05/2024 16:12

Naem
Well I confess I have to disagree, IF it is done well (which I doubt it would be), it can be an extraordinarily positive thing both for the individuals involved and for the country,

I don't really think this is the place for this discussion, but I think we can agree that done badly (which on previous form for this country it would be: I am old enough to have known people who did National Service, and it was good for nothing) it is futile, and promising it in the run-up to an election is a cynical political ploy.

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