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Adoption shower ideas

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CraftyC · 07/04/2024 07:50

I have offered to host an adoption shower for my best friend. They have been going through the UK adoption system for nearly 2 years and will be taking a 1 year old girl home mid May. The mum to be knows about the shower and is incredibly excited.

However all the ideas for games I have seen are pregnancy related. Does anyone have any ideas what games/activities I can do with the 15 guests in my house that doesn't mention pregnancy? Any other tips for hosting this shower to make it special for her?

Thanks

OP posts:
KoolKookaburra · 07/04/2024 09:49

Josette77 · 07/04/2024 09:45

What does any of this have to do with a baby shower though???

Who cares about the process????

The mum wants a baby shower and Op is giving her one!

I think people have just seen "adoption" and decided to go off on one

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/04/2024 09:50

soupfiend · 07/04/2024 09:44

In the UK the child travels with their belongings, its important for continuity, the adopters will be advised to keep everything the same, even down to using the same washing powder where possible for example.

Exactly, it is fair enough that the OP does't know any of this- why should she ? But the prospective adopters really should, adopting a one year old is a serious and adult bussiness, a night out ( or in) with friends is of course a lovely idea, but games and gifts adapted from those for a expectant mother are wholly inappropriate IMO . It worries me that the prospective mother does not see this.

LlynTegid · 07/04/2024 09:50

As the woman who is adopting comes from the US, get the guests to see how many of the 50 states they can name in say ten minutes.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

soupfiend · 07/04/2024 09:54

Josette77 · 07/04/2024 09:45

What does any of this have to do with a baby shower though???

Who cares about the process????

The mum wants a baby shower and Op is giving her one!

I already explained, but again, the OP says 'before the child arrives but after it is legally ratified'

That doesnt make sense in the UK

And in addition to that, I set out why placement fragility can occur where the tone of the process is coloured by high expectations and a party vibe (for want of a better expression) about the process

The two link together because in the UK the child would be living with the adopters at the time of it being 'legally ratified' - ie the adoption order is made AFTER the child is placed. At that point and only at that point do the adopters become the legal parents of the child.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/04/2024 09:57

soupfiend · 07/04/2024 09:54

I already explained, but again, the OP says 'before the child arrives but after it is legally ratified'

That doesnt make sense in the UK

And in addition to that, I set out why placement fragility can occur where the tone of the process is coloured by high expectations and a party vibe (for want of a better expression) about the process

The two link together because in the UK the child would be living with the adopters at the time of it being 'legally ratified' - ie the adoption order is made AFTER the child is placed. At that point and only at that point do the adopters become the legal parents of the child.

yes, this, is it an international adoption ?

theduchessofspork · 07/04/2024 09:57

soupfiend · 07/04/2024 09:07

I see there is no suggestion the child be involved and thats good

Obviously there will be a transition period from the foster carer (presumably thats where the child is now) to the adopters. Usually the child is living with the adopters until the adoption order is granted, the child lives there under placement order and care order until that adoption order is made

So Im a bit confused about OP you saying before the child arrives but after its all ratified legally?

Adoption is amazing for a child that needs security, permanency and legal parents for their minority where that cant happen within the birth family. But it is also a loss, its a loss for the child, a loss for the birth family and that is hard to recognise, therefore Im not keen on the idea of a 'party' type of celebration.

Children's lives need to be kept very very small in the early days after transition, this can continue for months and months. Its a good idea for the prospective adopters to also keep their world small to replicate this, to run in accordance with what the child is experiencing

Has there been a birth parent meeting yet?

What is the point in your posts?

The OP is organising a party for her friend before the baby arrives - you know, because that’s how baby showers work.

She is not involved in the adoption so no one needs you to show off your knowledge of the adoption system because it’s not relevant to the thread.

The OP won’t have a clue about birth parent meetings or anything else.

Stop being ridiculous.

Simonjt · 07/04/2024 09:57

Purplevioletsherbert · 07/04/2024 09:49

Given that the OP’s friend is adopting a 1 year old, chances are they have been in care since a very young baby and the carers will provide photos.

I adopted a one year old, I don’t have a single photo before the age of 14 months.

CliffsofMohair · 07/04/2024 09:59

Bakersdozens · 07/04/2024 08:45

That is just rubbish. 20-25% end with the child being taken back into care or placed in alternative accommodation or boarding within 10 years.

MOST adoptions that fail do so "unofficially" - so that 25% is less than half the total.

Child moves out at 16 and goes non contact, or similar, or failure after 10 years, which isn't in the statistics, or family struggles on totally broken, or child just quietly moves out and sofa surfs, or similar.

Adoptions have a lower success rate then marriages, which fail at a rate of 1 in 3

Taking on a damaged child is a heroic thing to do, and I am sure that even children of failed adoptions are far better off than they would have been in care all their childhood.

But it is something that is taken on seriously, and quietly, and smoothly, and with expectation of trouble, and likely heart break - that is why the idea of a party seems so out of place to me. But I guess if that is what she wants, go ahead. As long as the child doesn't know anything about it, I suppose why not. My gut reaction was NO!!!!!!!! but maybe I'm wrong and its nice for her

My understanding is American cultural norms around adoption are very different to the U.K.. this new mother may be coming from a totally different place on this.

Josette77 · 07/04/2024 10:01

soupfiend · 07/04/2024 09:54

I already explained, but again, the OP says 'before the child arrives but after it is legally ratified'

That doesnt make sense in the UK

And in addition to that, I set out why placement fragility can occur where the tone of the process is coloured by high expectations and a party vibe (for want of a better expression) about the process

The two link together because in the UK the child would be living with the adopters at the time of it being 'legally ratified' - ie the adoption order is made AFTER the child is placed. At that point and only at that point do the adopters become the legal parents of the child.

Right... Except...

The Mum wants a shower, the OP is giving a shower.

And presumably they know the situation well enough to decide these things.

YOU however are merely speculating.

TeaKitten · 07/04/2024 10:01

soupfiend · 07/04/2024 09:54

I already explained, but again, the OP says 'before the child arrives but after it is legally ratified'

That doesnt make sense in the UK

And in addition to that, I set out why placement fragility can occur where the tone of the process is coloured by high expectations and a party vibe (for want of a better expression) about the process

The two link together because in the UK the child would be living with the adopters at the time of it being 'legally ratified' - ie the adoption order is made AFTER the child is placed. At that point and only at that point do the adopters become the legal parents of the child.

Why don’t you just suggest party games for both eventualities and then move on with your day.

theduchessofspork · 07/04/2024 10:03

soupfiend · 07/04/2024 09:54

I already explained, but again, the OP says 'before the child arrives but after it is legally ratified'

That doesnt make sense in the UK

And in addition to that, I set out why placement fragility can occur where the tone of the process is coloured by high expectations and a party vibe (for want of a better expression) about the process

The two link together because in the UK the child would be living with the adopters at the time of it being 'legally ratified' - ie the adoption order is made AFTER the child is placed. At that point and only at that point do the adopters become the legal parents of the child.

Jesus, will you stop it?

It’s neither your nor the OP’s business if it’s an international adoption or not. The OP is not the parent and may or may not have picked up the wrong end of the stick about the legal process.

It doesn’t matter. The OP is organising a baby shower, not adopting a baby.

Wanting a baby shower does not indicate unrealistic expectations - it’s a small celebration before the arrival of the child, and it’s normal.

You must be seriously insecure to need to show off like this.

Josette77 · 07/04/2024 10:03

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/04/2024 09:57

yes, this, is it an international adoption ?

Lol WHY IS THAT YOUR BUSINESS?

MariaVT65 · 07/04/2024 10:03

LlynTegid · 07/04/2024 09:50

As the woman who is adopting comes from the US, get the guests to see how many of the 50 states they can name in say ten minutes.

I like this idea!

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/04/2024 10:04

theduchessofspork · 07/04/2024 09:57

What is the point in your posts?

The OP is organising a party for her friend before the baby arrives - you know, because that’s how baby showers work.

She is not involved in the adoption so no one needs you to show off your knowledge of the adoption system because it’s not relevant to the thread.

The OP won’t have a clue about birth parent meetings or anything else.

Stop being ridiculous.

Ok, so in my bit of the UK " matching" happens at an adoption panel where the decision to place the child with the prospective adopters. This is usually a gradual process of meetings and increasing periods of care over a few weeks culminating in the child " moving" into the adopter's home. Once the decision is made it is normally only a few days until this process starts. I would hope that the adopters would be spending this time getting the house ready, finishing up work projects and resting rather than having a " shower". After introductions have started it would be wholly inappropriate to have this type of event. So I too am struggling to see how this would fit into the model of adoption I am familiar with. Baby showers usually happen around 28-34 weeks I believe before the period of intense preparation starts, there is no such equivalent time point for UK adopters currently.

TeaKitten · 07/04/2024 10:04

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/04/2024 10:04

Ok, so in my bit of the UK " matching" happens at an adoption panel where the decision to place the child with the prospective adopters. This is usually a gradual process of meetings and increasing periods of care over a few weeks culminating in the child " moving" into the adopter's home. Once the decision is made it is normally only a few days until this process starts. I would hope that the adopters would be spending this time getting the house ready, finishing up work projects and resting rather than having a " shower". After introductions have started it would be wholly inappropriate to have this type of event. So I too am struggling to see how this would fit into the model of adoption I am familiar with. Baby showers usually happen around 28-34 weeks I believe before the period of intense preparation starts, there is no such equivalent time point for UK adopters currently.

have you got any ideas for games for the party though?

Purplevioletsherbert · 07/04/2024 10:05

soupfiend · 07/04/2024 09:54

I already explained, but again, the OP says 'before the child arrives but after it is legally ratified'

That doesnt make sense in the UK

And in addition to that, I set out why placement fragility can occur where the tone of the process is coloured by high expectations and a party vibe (for want of a better expression) about the process

The two link together because in the UK the child would be living with the adopters at the time of it being 'legally ratified' - ie the adoption order is made AFTER the child is placed. At that point and only at that point do the adopters become the legal parents of the child.

I’m pretty sure the OP means once the match has been formally agreed at panel. The OP is not adopting so is unlikely to know the proper terminology for this, given her a break!

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/04/2024 10:05

Josette77 · 07/04/2024 10:03

Lol WHY IS THAT YOUR BUSINESS?

this is a public forum people ask all sorts of questions. If you must know I have the child's best interests in mind .

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/04/2024 10:06

Purplevioletsherbert · 07/04/2024 10:05

I’m pretty sure the OP means once the match has been formally agreed at panel. The OP is not adopting so is unlikely to know the proper terminology for this, given her a break!

In which case think it's a terrible idea as outlined above.

Josette77 · 07/04/2024 10:06

@Neurodiversitydoctor

None of that matters.

Your adoption information doesn't matter.

The mom would like a baby shower.

What do you have to add to this conversation?

Please stop.

It's uncomfortable as an adoptee.

treacledan71 · 07/04/2024 10:07

It is very rare when it goes to final panel that they say no. Obviously the shower would be before intros start.

Purplevioletsherbert · 07/04/2024 10:08

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/04/2024 10:04

Ok, so in my bit of the UK " matching" happens at an adoption panel where the decision to place the child with the prospective adopters. This is usually a gradual process of meetings and increasing periods of care over a few weeks culminating in the child " moving" into the adopter's home. Once the decision is made it is normally only a few days until this process starts. I would hope that the adopters would be spending this time getting the house ready, finishing up work projects and resting rather than having a " shower". After introductions have started it would be wholly inappropriate to have this type of event. So I too am struggling to see how this would fit into the model of adoption I am familiar with. Baby showers usually happen around 28-34 weeks I believe before the period of intense preparation starts, there is no such equivalent time point for UK adopters currently.

It sounds like the OPs friend already has a timeline for when marching panel is and when the introductions starts. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the adopter taking an afternoon to celebrate with friends and family in this period. They’ll have been preparing for a very, very long time. Let them celebrate without your judgement.

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/04/2024 10:08

TeaKitten · 07/04/2024 10:04

have you got any ideas for games for the party though?

We are allowed to say we think it isn't a good idea. We are allowed to say we don't think baby showers generally translate well into British culture and even more so when it is an adoption.

Josette77 · 07/04/2024 10:09

Neurodiversitydoctor · 07/04/2024 10:05

this is a public forum people ask all sorts of questions. If you must know I have the child's best interests in mind .

Really?

Well, good news!!!

The baby won't be at the party!!! Just the mom will be!!!!

Phew, glad we can all now move on.

soupfiend · 07/04/2024 10:09

theduchessofspork · 07/04/2024 10:03

Jesus, will you stop it?

It’s neither your nor the OP’s business if it’s an international adoption or not. The OP is not the parent and may or may not have picked up the wrong end of the stick about the legal process.

It doesn’t matter. The OP is organising a baby shower, not adopting a baby.

Wanting a baby shower does not indicate unrealistic expectations - it’s a small celebration before the arrival of the child, and it’s normal.

You must be seriously insecure to need to show off like this.

In my experience, it does show unrealistic expectations and its not child centred. Any party type thing for the adults involved, is about it being about the adults needs.
It sets up a tone that may not be mirrored by the reality, its not something that would be encouraged or supported in my team, the world of the adopters and the child needs to be really really small, Ive seen the impact of things like this over and over in my career and despite advice to the contrary these types of things go ahead and in those families, in my experience is a higher risk of fragility.

Ted27 · 07/04/2024 10:09

@soupfiend

You are really overthinking this.

It's a opportunity for this new mum to have a bit of fun with her mates before she gets bogged down in the day to day stuff of motherhood.
I adopted an 8 year old. I had a night out with my mates. I got a few presents for him, and lots of love, warmth and good wishes for me.

One of my friends got me some 'It's a boy' balloons and card. The balloons were still going the day I brought him home. He loved them, thought it was great that mummy had friends who were happy for us and wanted to mark the occassion. That was 12 years ago this week. Every year we have balloons with the number on them and we go our for dinner. Even though he is 20, he still loves that we mark the occassion. Every single year, even the really tough years when he was in therapy.
Adoption is a long hard journey. We all start off in hope. The successs of our family was not made fragile by me cracking open a bottle of wine with my friends.
It's just a bunch of mates having a bit of a laugh.

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