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So I’ve just discovered Tattle…

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ifyouthinkyouregettingawayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy · 06/04/2024 22:19

My friend told me about it recently so I thought I’d have a look. So I do have some views on ‘influencers’ showing off their DC before they’re old enough to consent, but blimey, this goes above any beyond that. There is a woman on Istagram called ‘Knee Deep in Life’ I’ve followed her for years and I can see that’s she’s not everyone’s cup of tea but she’s pretty inoffensive but the way she’s been talked about of Tattle is horrible, I don’t know how anyone could describe as anything else other than bullying.

i stopped reading after this and I’m very willing to stand corrected if this was a one off and every thing else is well put together and thought through but suspect that’s not the case. I know MN is in no way perfect but just found it really nasty.

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BlancheSaysYes · 09/04/2024 11:51

Mumsnetters are a diverse group of people, as are Tattle posters. The mockery I can see is aimed at the few, often repeated posts about obesity and how we've lost sight of what a normal weight looks like, competitive under-eating, expensive but drab clothing recommendations, and fairly ridiculous moans about mothers in law and their wrongdoings, oh and the endless parking diagrams.

Mumsnet is a supportive forum, if people post in the right place - women's health, parenting, pregnancy, education - I have found a lot of useful advice in these sections. Less supportive is AIBU where posters can be torn to shreds and there's often a nasty pile on of unpleasant comments.

I've said before, there's a place for both Tattle and Mumsnet. They provide a different service. If you want showbiz gossip and bitchiness about influencers, and not mature discussions about lifestyle/parenting choices, then head to Tattle and fill your boots.

HelloMiss · 09/04/2024 12:30

LadyEloise1 · 09/04/2024 10:34

@Springtime2024 - Do I believe everything that's written here ?"( on Mumsnet ).

No but I would say a lot of it is genuine.

😝 😝 😝

Genuine!!!!

justasking111 · 09/04/2024 12:40

Chunkycookie · 09/04/2024 10:36

Honestly, I think what most people write on forums is bullshit.

People make up threads, spend the day getting comments and replying. A lot of people are lonely. The internet has given them an outlet to “talk” to other people. you also get a massive dopamine hit when you get comments, replies, likes etc. That’s addictive.

I saw it in the clients I worked with. Before the internet, they would have been the ones at the drs surgery everyday, or calling competition lines, calling chat lines. Posting endless shit on the internet has replaced that.

Sometimes you see that worrying behaviour in influencers. The ones who post every mundane thing. the ones who, when their child is in danger or ill will list every detail in real time - when what most people would do would be focus on the child, panic in your own head, be too absorbed in the situation to think about anything else. but they have l become addicted to the high and put that (and the engagement), first.

So it’s the same as making up a bullshit post on mumsnet about your MIL. People do it as the attention feels good.

ETA - all the typos. I’ve got a puppy that I have to keep one eye on constantly.

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That's really interesting about the dopamine effect.

I knew about the lonely, elderly haunting surgeries, sometimes seeing the GP three times a week.

KittensandPerverts · 09/04/2024 14:34

I like that on Tattle we're considered adult enough to be trusted with an emoticon reply button...

justasking111 · 09/04/2024 15:54

KittensandPerverts · 09/04/2024 14:34

I like that on Tattle we're considered adult enough to be trusted with an emoticon reply button...

Not sure what you mean re an emoticon. :). :(.

They're clunkier than 😊😟 and old hat

category12 · 09/04/2024 16:45

justasking111 · 09/04/2024 15:54

Not sure what you mean re an emoticon. :). :(.

They're clunkier than 😊😟 and old hat

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I presume they mean being able to react on people's posts with emojis. Which is something I'd quite like here as sometimes you want to show you laughed at a post or similar, and I'd say it's pretty clunky to have to quote the post or @ the person. I suppose it keeps the dopamine hits down😁

millieton · 09/04/2024 17:41

BlackCountryWench2 · 08/04/2024 23:51

“Many of the JM posters were clearly furious when people off Tattle actually started drawing attention to Jack's dodgy schemes and so gave them less to talk about.”

This is a barefaced lie. All of the comments I’ve seen are from people grateful that she’s gone quiet, and therefore less able to continue her grift (although she’s still raking in a four figure sum from Patreon every month, despite never sending out any of the rewards that are promised for up to £44 per month). It’s openly celebrated when her lies and swindling are called out anywhere, whether that is on social media or (much less frequently) the mainstream media, since raising awareness of her grift is the best way to try and protect the public from her.

It's not a 'barefaced lie', it's an opinion. If you are bothered by it, perhaps you should take the advice that Tattlers always give when their targets speak out and not read a thread about Tattle and it's users.

It was people on social media and bloggers etc. who got the word out about Jack. If it was only Tattle who'd worked her out, it would still just be the same group of people who'd been dissecting every detail of her life since 2020 carrying on with their inside jokes and cringe thread titles. And many were angry at the bloggers, the mods even banned mentioning them which seemed a bit pathetic. And the threads still drag on despite Jack not being active in months, plus many of the most regular users have hopped over to a thread about a woman who has almost no public profile, chatting with the same users and making the same jokes, which I think demonstrates where their priorities lie (hint: it's not with 'outing' grifters.)

There's a strange shared smugness to a lot of Tattle and the suggestion that they should be free of criticism because everyone likes a gossip/bitch is a tad disingenuous. I think most of us can see a difference between having a gossip with our friends/family and dedicating huge amounts of free time (for some users, not all) to discussing people who have literally no impact on your life, creating drawings, writing stories and song lyrics, things like '10 fish that look like Jack Monroe' etc. One is normal, one is not.

TheSpyWhoTalksALot · 09/04/2024 18:47

Chunkycookie · 08/04/2024 06:08

Oh no, if my child’s teacher had been slagging off someone on the internet they didn’t like, on an annoy mouse forum, that the person didn’t have to read. I’d be straight on to the governors to get them sacked. How dare they have an opinion on something!

Oh wait….. I‘m not a wanker.

I don’t give a shit.

Fucks sake, really? Don’t be daft. It’s not like they are sticking shit though letterboxes.

I fucking hate Ryan Gosling. His eyes are too close together and he gives me the creeps. I guess I should go and hand in my notice now I’ve said that on the internet.

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You've missed my point. It comes with the territory that celebrities, influencers, and grifters who put themselves in the public eye will receive mixed reactions and to an extent are fair game on sites like Tattle. As it happens, I agree on all counts about Ryan Gosling.

I was talking specifically about Popsy, where customers interact with each other through the Frocks & Friends Facebook group and post photos of what they're wearing. The clothes aren't to everyone's taste but the Tattler's attacks go way beyond ridiculing dress sense.

I know personally some of the individuals who have been subject to relentless character assassination and baseless speculation on the threads and have seen firsthand the psychological impact it has had on them. Shit through a letterbox would undoubtedly be preferable.

It's more than 'having an opinion on something', it's playground bullying on steroids which is why I find it especially grim knowing who is behind many of the not-so 'annoy mouse' posts.

usernother · 09/04/2024 19:06

@millieton Jack has been active on Twitter and FB. Very briefly, but she did surface at the end of March.

BlancheSaysYes · 09/04/2024 19:20

@TheSpyWhoTalksALot I like Popsy clothing, but I would never post my photo on their facebook page. It's not the safe, friendly community they seem to think it is, anyone can join that group.

Snag tights, on the other hand - their facebook page is something else! It has put me off the brand for life, and as a woman of nearly 6ft, I am yet to find another manufacturer with the same standard and variety of tights for sale.

category12 · 09/04/2024 19:22

millieton · 09/04/2024 17:41

It's not a 'barefaced lie', it's an opinion. If you are bothered by it, perhaps you should take the advice that Tattlers always give when their targets speak out and not read a thread about Tattle and it's users.

It was people on social media and bloggers etc. who got the word out about Jack. If it was only Tattle who'd worked her out, it would still just be the same group of people who'd been dissecting every detail of her life since 2020 carrying on with their inside jokes and cringe thread titles. And many were angry at the bloggers, the mods even banned mentioning them which seemed a bit pathetic. And the threads still drag on despite Jack not being active in months, plus many of the most regular users have hopped over to a thread about a woman who has almost no public profile, chatting with the same users and making the same jokes, which I think demonstrates where their priorities lie (hint: it's not with 'outing' grifters.)

There's a strange shared smugness to a lot of Tattle and the suggestion that they should be free of criticism because everyone likes a gossip/bitch is a tad disingenuous. I think most of us can see a difference between having a gossip with our friends/family and dedicating huge amounts of free time (for some users, not all) to discussing people who have literally no impact on your life, creating drawings, writing stories and song lyrics, things like '10 fish that look like Jack Monroe' etc. One is normal, one is not.

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Oh dear, the idea of 10 fish that look like someone made me laugh. 😂Sorry, I know it's not supposed to.

I don't think it means people are obsessed or abnormal though, just sounds like they had a silly idea and ran with it, probably bouncing off each other - your basic internet time-wasting for personal entertainment. I mean people do weird tik tok challenges and all sorts of things that involve thought, time and energy, which are not objectively worthwhile or constructive and sometimes pretty unsafe - seems like it's well within a range of "normal" human activity to me.

OK it's not very nice to be on the end of. I doubt I'd enjoy being compared to various fish. 😂

Chunkycookie · 09/04/2024 19:26

TheSpyWhoTalksALot · 09/04/2024 18:47

You've missed my point. It comes with the territory that celebrities, influencers, and grifters who put themselves in the public eye will receive mixed reactions and to an extent are fair game on sites like Tattle. As it happens, I agree on all counts about Ryan Gosling.

I was talking specifically about Popsy, where customers interact with each other through the Frocks & Friends Facebook group and post photos of what they're wearing. The clothes aren't to everyone's taste but the Tattler's attacks go way beyond ridiculing dress sense.

I know personally some of the individuals who have been subject to relentless character assassination and baseless speculation on the threads and have seen firsthand the psychological impact it has had on them. Shit through a letterbox would undoubtedly be preferable.

It's more than 'having an opinion on something', it's playground bullying on steroids which is why I find it especially grim knowing who is behind many of the not-so 'annoy mouse' posts.

Don’t do a passive aggressive piss take of my typo. I saw it but couldn’t be arsed to edit. People in glass houses, eh?

TheSpyWhoTalksALot · 09/04/2024 20:02

Chunkycookie · 09/04/2024 19:26

Don’t do a passive aggressive piss take of my typo. I saw it but couldn’t be arsed to edit. People in glass houses, eh?

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Once again, spectacularly missing the point.

SweetSummerChild22 · 10/04/2024 08:59

millieton · 09/04/2024 17:41

It's not a 'barefaced lie', it's an opinion. If you are bothered by it, perhaps you should take the advice that Tattlers always give when their targets speak out and not read a thread about Tattle and it's users.

It was people on social media and bloggers etc. who got the word out about Jack. If it was only Tattle who'd worked her out, it would still just be the same group of people who'd been dissecting every detail of her life since 2020 carrying on with their inside jokes and cringe thread titles. And many were angry at the bloggers, the mods even banned mentioning them which seemed a bit pathetic. And the threads still drag on despite Jack not being active in months, plus many of the most regular users have hopped over to a thread about a woman who has almost no public profile, chatting with the same users and making the same jokes, which I think demonstrates where their priorities lie (hint: it's not with 'outing' grifters.)

There's a strange shared smugness to a lot of Tattle and the suggestion that they should be free of criticism because everyone likes a gossip/bitch is a tad disingenuous. I think most of us can see a difference between having a gossip with our friends/family and dedicating huge amounts of free time (for some users, not all) to discussing people who have literally no impact on your life, creating drawings, writing stories and song lyrics, things like '10 fish that look like Jack Monroe' etc. One is normal, one is not.

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Totally agree with you here. I'm on Tattle but don't post much any more. The moderation is shit and inconsistent and its gotten boring.
I became aware of tattle off the JM stuff that was going on on Twitter. Awfully Molly posted a blog about her and I read it. Twitter got the word out about JM and her lies, not Tattle. They really do have a smugness about them. They are creaming themselves seeing these posts about you all wanting to join their exclusive comments club - the irony calling it that is that's what they called people who could comment on Jack's posts on twitter.
The hypocrisy there is off the scale. They moan about people's lack of self awareness and yet have none of their own.
The only good thing about tattle and the JM threads is that they put all of Jack's inconsistencies in order and it revealed how bad it was. That's it. Why the treads are still going, I don't know as they keep churning over the same old stuff. Yes Jack has raised her head as seen here. I'm glad that everytime she does, she gets told off. The woman is certifiable.

Zyq · 10/04/2024 10:14

Pixiesgirl · 06/04/2024 22:44

There's many trolls who post here who are very disturbed, not allowed to call it out though "not in the spirit"

So you just report it. How hard can it be?

ButtercupFlower · 10/04/2024 13:17

HelloMiss · 07/04/2024 11:48

Aww bless..

You are clearly exactly the right sort of person to be on there so I’m glad for you that you’ve found it.

HiFillyJonk · 10/04/2024 18:15

Everybody has a chapter they don't read out loud.

MasonGrace · 11/04/2024 02:12

HiFillyJonk · 10/04/2024 18:15

Everybody has a chapter they don't read out loud.

Look forward to that "coming soon".

millieton · 11/04/2024 10:39

SweetSummerChild22 · 10/04/2024 08:59

Totally agree with you here. I'm on Tattle but don't post much any more. The moderation is shit and inconsistent and its gotten boring.
I became aware of tattle off the JM stuff that was going on on Twitter. Awfully Molly posted a blog about her and I read it. Twitter got the word out about JM and her lies, not Tattle. They really do have a smugness about them. They are creaming themselves seeing these posts about you all wanting to join their exclusive comments club - the irony calling it that is that's what they called people who could comment on Jack's posts on twitter.
The hypocrisy there is off the scale. They moan about people's lack of self awareness and yet have none of their own.
The only good thing about tattle and the JM threads is that they put all of Jack's inconsistencies in order and it revealed how bad it was. That's it. Why the treads are still going, I don't know as they keep churning over the same old stuff. Yes Jack has raised her head as seen here. I'm glad that everytime she does, she gets told off. The woman is certifiable.

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My guess would be that they're still going because it has become such an important part of some poster's social lives. Maybe they're lacking a real life community to talk with? Some of them certainly seem to be on Tattle for the majority of the day. Loneliness can be an awful thing so I don't want to judge, but I do think it's a shame they can't find more positive and meaningful interactions. Obviously I am generalising here and mainly referring to a core group of prolific posters, not all users.

HelloMiss · 11/04/2024 10:59

@ButtercupFlower

  • HelloMiss Aww bless..

You are clearly exactly the right sort of person to be on there so I’m glad for you that you’ve found it

I'm on mumsnet 90% so clearly I'm the 'right sort of person' to be on mumsnet, with mumsnetters!

category12 · 11/04/2024 17:44

millieton · 11/04/2024 10:39

My guess would be that they're still going because it has become such an important part of some poster's social lives. Maybe they're lacking a real life community to talk with? Some of them certainly seem to be on Tattle for the majority of the day. Loneliness can be an awful thing so I don't want to judge, but I do think it's a shame they can't find more positive and meaningful interactions. Obviously I am generalising here and mainly referring to a core group of prolific posters, not all users.

It makes me laugh a bit to think that users of one message board are criticising users of other message boards and depicting them as lonely or sad etc.

People in glass houses 😂

millieton · 11/04/2024 18:08

category12 · 11/04/2024 17:44

It makes me laugh a bit to think that users of one message board are criticising users of other message boards and depicting them as lonely or sad etc.

People in glass houses 😂

I was quite specific that I was talking about the most prolific posters only, but you've conveniently ignored that :)

category12 · 11/04/2024 18:10

There are very prolific posters on here too.

millieton · 11/04/2024 18:18

category12 · 11/04/2024 18:10

There are very prolific posters on here too.

Yes. But did you understand the context of my comments about loneliness? PPs and I were wondering why a group of people want to continue making themselves angry by rehashing the 'best bits' of Jack Monroe instead of moving onto new topics. I suggested it's because they feel like they're a community, but it's a shame it isn't for something more positive.

category12 · 11/04/2024 18:38

millieton · 11/04/2024 18:18

Yes. But did you understand the context of my comments about loneliness? PPs and I were wondering why a group of people want to continue making themselves angry by rehashing the 'best bits' of Jack Monroe instead of moving onto new topics. I suggested it's because they feel like they're a community, but it's a shame it isn't for something more positive.

But that's human nature, isn't it? It's not all sunshine and puppies. I just think it's a form of entertainment, and you find it all over the place, like regular commenters on some news sites or whatever.

It used to be people writing in to newspapers or Points of View in the old days 😂"Outraged of Tunbridge Wells" and all that.

There are posters on here that appear to just come on to kick someone who is down.

I'm sure that we all could be spending our free time more wisely and constructively.