Do we know where the non muggle DC go to Primary School before Hogwarts ?

[UpsideLeft]

Just listening to Harry Potter for the millionth time and realised it's never mentioned if all the little wizards and witches who are non muggle ever go to wizarding Primary Schools ?

I'm sure there's lots of other unanswered HP questions we can try and get to the bottom of invent for our own amusement

Why are the Weasley's so poor? If most kids are homeschooled then if follows that most families are single income. I get the Weasleys represent the typical large low income family, but in the magical world this makes no sense, does it? Ron always wore hand me downs, was there a restriction on using magic to make new clothes? And food? Mr Weasley had a good job, yet the house was a dump. Who pays for the food at Hogwarths, is there a wizarding world taxation system or is it all covered by magic. If it is, then again, why are the Weasleys poor? Or it there a grade of magic where higher level wizards have more powers, so the Weasleys with their weaker magic can't conjure up what others can, like a caste system. So many questions!!

I don't think so, the intake included English, Scottish and Irish, so it must be the only one between Britain and Ireland.

Well, if a ten-year old Hermione has just set the Head on fire or turned the child who persistently disrupts the class into a toad, I imagine her school will just be left with a faint feeling something had been a bit off for a few years, as they will be having their memories modified on a regular basis while she’s a pupil there.

Ah, but remember Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration. Perhaps it applies to things other than food, such as clothing or money.

And JKR does sort of mention different levels of power. She refers to Bellatrix as a 'witch of prodigious power' and Voldemort mentions 'going beyond where other wizards have gone' into the realms of magical powers. I suppose, just as with muggles, there are 'smarter' or more confident or curious (or evil) wizards and witches. And lazy ones like me who only manage to progress to the level of summoning food and wine while lazing about.

But God, wouldn't we ALL want to master all the 'householdy' spells? Imagine walking into your house after DH has been on his own with the DC all day and being able to put things to rights with just a 'Scourfigy' and a 'Tergeo'?

This thread is absolutely wonderful!

BTW, did you know you can program the torch on your iPhone to turn on and off with 'Lumos' and 'Nox'? And to lock itself and turn dark with 'Avada Kedavra'?

I assume the wealthier people like the Malfoy’s probably had tutors, then those who weren’t as affluent like the Weasley’s were homeschooled.

Let’s not get into why the only named Irish student, who is just another background Gryffindor in the novels is turned in the film adaptations into a belligerent kid who is renowned for blowing things up and whose first attempt at transfiguration is to turn something into rum.🙄

There’s also one in Japan, Mahatokoru (hope I spelled that right ) one in the South Pacific/SE Asia, one in the Middle East, Ugadou in Africa/South Africa and castleobruxo in South America

OH ! 😂

I reckon kids who were from muggle families went to normal primary schools. But "pure bloods" like the Weasley kids and Malfoys were homeschooled. Either by parents (Molly) or some witch / wizard tutor

The films butchered the books. I never liked the films.

No you can't make food with magic. There are kitchens at hogwarts (the house elves work there) the food that appears on the tables in the great hall is transported magically but not made.

Magic can help make things but can't produce stuff. Could presumably make food grow faster etc or harvest it or cook it on a magical flame but you would still need to grow the carrots or whatever.

I imagine that the economics is very interesting. If you can make sheep wool grow faster and clean and knit it with magic then you would think that the cost of the resulting jumper would be lower. However the same could be said if every other resource so there will be an industry wide devaluing of items.

Even it took the a 10th of the effort to make a jumper as a Muggle then those jumpers would simply cost a 10th of the amount (unless they sold them to muggles I suppose) because the relative value would go down because of how easy it was for a witch or wizard.

Perhaps Mr Weasley job is low down the pecking order, I'm sure I remember his position being mocked a few times, perhaps he is at a lower grade then his job title would suggest. We know the wizarding world is perfectly capable of corruption and unjust behaviour so this makes sense that they won't have standardised pay between departments necessarily.

When it comes to transfiguration, do we know that clothing that has been transfigured is as good as the real thing or is there a risk of your trousers being dispelled at some point? The waterfall at gringots for example. So that takes us back to the above magically manufactured jumpers which the weasleys may not have been able to afford.

I feel the opposite.

The trouble with the books is that they got longer and longer - probably for lack of editing - and droned on and on about teenage angst. The films have quite skilfully worked in the pains of adolescence without slowing everything down.

There's no way they'd go to normal primary school! They'd constantly be accidentally revealing the existence of the wizarding world to muggle primary school children and teachers . They are obviously homeschooled until they go to Hogwarts, and some are homeschooled at secondary age too, as attendance at Hogwarts isn't compulsory.

According to JK Rowling’s 2004 World Book Day Chat they can/do go to Muggle primary schools before Hogwarts. Half-bloods would be more likely to, I suppose - & Purebloods are rare (the list of the “Sacred 28” was compiled almost a century ago now).

Itvx have been showing the films this week tonight is the half blood prince. Which is the one with all the angst and a little bit of drug experimentation 😂

I was far too old to read the books so I just watched the films as they came out with my kids Dd1 Is first generation Potter fan.

There's a serious lack to attention to admissions. For a school of initially 1000, there must have been quite an exodus at some point to get down to 600 - maybe when it all got darker? - Their Y7 PAN should have been around 150, but they only had 40. Suppose V and his Naziwizards had done a lot to reduce the population before they reached secondary age. As part of widening participation, it would make sense if they had an admissions policy of 50% in the Muggle Band and 50% fullblood - but if they had to consult on the proposed change to determined admissions arrangements, that could have been one of the things that set off further warfare. Add into that the considerable number of children who would disappear, die in bizarre bathroom incidents, get whomped by willows or chased by oversized arachnids or come back at the end of term with strangely different bodies as though they had been altered or repeatedly repaired in some way and perhaps fewer parents were putting them down as their first preference due to some pretty serious safeguarding failures and an inability for lessons to be learned from previous incidents.

It's also possible that the Sorting Hat was purchased as a bolt on to the admissions software due to the previous officer either going a bit Lupin from the constant hassle of parents asking for in year admissions, entitled wizarding families demanding that they had a right of appeal when their decidedly inadequate offspring did not fulfil the criteria of having magical ability and they hadn't put down any other school so Hogwarts 'had' to offer them a place. That way, whilst the pointy of elbow would ensure they applied and were offered a place, the others might not have known they had to also complete a Supplementary Owl Replacement Tract in order for their application to be placed into the band for Muggle born but with magical abilities.

I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be the clerk to the governing body. The number of panels, committees and extraordinary meetings that would have to be convened would be ridiculous.

I'm impressed at the amount of thought you've given to this, @NeverDropYourMooncup

I suppose they go to normal primaries and the magic doesn't kick in till they are 11 or something like that !
Defo Malloy and co to private nursery and then school where they meet like minded souls and probably know they are special.
There are other magical secondary schools as we meet a few from other schools in book four at the tri wizard tournament and the Quidditch World Cup tournament.
I can't recall his name , but the one who was obsessed with Hermoine was from Russian school I think ?
Long time since I read all the books

@the80sweregreat it’s deliberately never specified exactly where Durmstrang is - the best answer we’ve had is the North of Sweden or Norway. (Krum is Bulgarian). Draco’s mummy didn’t want him going so far away or he’d have gone to school there: would have been a better fit in terms of the Dark Arts; & Karkaroff would have been all over him, given the Death Eater connection & Malfoy wealth…

A magical quill writes down each magical child's name and date of birth the first time they display magic.

It seems like the school can expand to the exact requirements for the number of magical students requiring it at the time. Harry's year was a small intake as they were all born during the first wizarding war.

Hogwarts is funded by the ministry of magic, no fees required.

But it is selective, presumably. No magicky, no likey.

Yes, if they never display any magic then they don't get in.

Krum is Bulgarian ! Sorry.

Can you imagine the 'Muggle Mummies and daddies ' ( muggle yummies) who are aware of their child's 'special powers' at primary lording it over the other children's parents or just having their own clique of people.
' oh , we do really want Hogwarts ' and writing to Dumbledore / sending gifts and birthday cards etc
The competition!!

Oh yes.

”Archie is sooo keen on Hogwarts. But we’ve got Durmstrang as a fallback. Jemima hasn’t set anything on fire with her mind yet, but if she does it’s definitely Beauxbatons. We absolutely love Madame Maxime.”