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Kate's photo appears "manipulated"?

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Tulipsandpansies123 · 10/03/2024 22:13

Have just seen news saying that associated press have withdrawn photo as it appears "manipulated". V strange

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Willmafrockfit · 11/03/2024 06:41

god you have to zoom in to see that,
ridiculous

LostittoBostik · 11/03/2024 06:42

Pittabred · 11/03/2024 06:40

Conspiracy theories aside I think the seriousness of this is the fact that the truth can and has been tampered with and that we the people are and can be fed a lie. If this has been doctored, what on earth else has been or will be? Such pictures become historical 'truths' Everyone deserves the truth and it's an insult to think otherwise.

Which is why the picture agencies do not allow distribution of manipulated images.

Who gives a shit about Kate, this really matters for things like war photography.

BUT the palace PRs should really know this. That's why this is so shocking. They're advised by morons.

Timeisallwehave · 11/03/2024 06:44

In my opinion the photo looks like it’s been created with AI, with additional photoshop to make it look accurate. I noticed something off about the posture of them all immediately. The hands are usually one of the more obvious points, AI struggles to create these in real human likeness. Placement or digits is usually off.

There is something off about the whole body positioning as well. I assumed I was wrong and just spent too much time crediting AI people that it made me bias.

EasternEcho · 11/03/2024 06:48

AP says the image is manipulated, not edited. Their standard for pulling a photo goes well beyond editing. Manipulated images mislead viewers or misrepresent subjects. Media like AP and Reuters are not "acting up". They are maintaining their standards about not misleading the public, as they obviously feel it does. I'm sure they have tech capabilities to examine these photos in much more detailed ways than we do.

Parrotseatthemall · 11/03/2024 06:56

When William missed the funeral due to a private matter there was speculation that one of the children may have had an accident at school. Perhaps Charlotte is wearing a plaster cast hence the funny cardigan sleeve

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 11/03/2024 07:00

Parrotseatthemall · 11/03/2024 06:56

When William missed the funeral due to a private matter there was speculation that one of the children may have had an accident at school. Perhaps Charlotte is wearing a plaster cast hence the funny cardigan sleeve

But a child breaking an arm isn't that uncommon, or something that would need hiding. Why bother editing it out?

volie · 11/03/2024 07:01

It's a photo of kids. Some probably had their eyes shut, were doing silly things with hands. So a few images were stitched together to make everyone look good.

The news agencies probably said to the palace, as a matter of course, 'has this image been edited?' and some flunky said 'no'.

When it was noticed that it had, and the palace had not been truthful, it was pulled as a matter of principle. There's probably also a lot of wrangling going on behind the scenes as to larger matters of truthfulness. For the newspapers, it's a great way to score a big goal against the palace.

That, or they have all in fact turned into lizards.

CormorantStrikesBack · 11/03/2024 07:01

Eyesopenwideawake · 10/03/2024 23:01

Erm, Charlotte has a heel on the boot tucked behind her and a flat boot on the other foot. Sack the nanny!

I don’t think she does. I think the “heel” is a tassel on the boot hanging down and sticking out at an angle from the boot due to the angle of her foot. You can see on the actual boot the std bit where the tassel fastens onto the boot.

SuperstarDeejay · 11/03/2024 07:05

Moonfishstar · 11/03/2024 06:29

It’s a posed photo for release worldwide… Of course she’s going to have make up on and look happy! Ffs, did you seriously expect a Daily Mail “sad face” pose.

That point I made that you ignored - I'd expect her to not look completely different in another photo taken the same week. Not a bit different, like a totally different person.

materialgworl · 11/03/2024 07:08

the mental gymnastics on here 🤣🤣🤣🤣

mitogoshi · 11/03/2024 07:10

My tree on my balcony has leaves already as do the big ones across the road. The thumb could be tucked in, not sure about colour or fingers. As for her size, give her a break, if the op is what the rumour I read, we'll just stop scrutinising her

Genevieva · 11/03/2024 07:15

These sorts of distortions happen when using High Dynamic Range on an iPhone and Google Pixel Phone, which merges 3 images into one. If the subjects have moved slightly during the three photos you can lose fingers etc. That’s all it is. No need for conspiracies.

BossInBoots · 11/03/2024 07:17

This seems such a weird and stupid thing to do - and just invites more speculation onto someone who presumably doesn't want it.

It definitely has made me lose some trust in the Royal Family. I understand their request for privacy, but the other side of that is that we should be able to trust the information that they do choose to share.

Gettingbysomehow · 11/03/2024 07:21

I expect she turnekd into her true lizard form and can't manage to turn back to human.......or something.

VimtoVimto · 11/03/2024 07:22

My theory is they felt they needed to produce a photo to counter the weird online theories, and in an attempt to get a good photo (and hide the Princess’s abdominal area) they manipulated the photos. I don’t think this was done with any intention to deceive but to get a good picture of all the children.

If the operation involved a colostomy bag, the POW will still be coming to terms with it and dressing to detract from it.

I’m ambivalent about the royal family but feel she should be left to recover in peace.

Emotionalsupportviper · 11/03/2024 07:22

JamMakingWannaBe · 10/03/2024 22:22

... because Charlotte's thumb is "missing" and her cardigan has allegedly been recoloured from grey to red. Louis's finger is also "missing".

I recognise that crossed finger sign. The whole family has been kidnapped by republicans and is trying to signal this to the world.

But seriously?

Even with the little circles round the relevant bits I can't see anything odd. I can see a "missing finger, but it could just as easily be bent.

If the RF wanted to send out doctored pictures they have the money and clout to get the most able professionals in the business to do the job for them - they don't need to pass the file to some boot boy and say "See what you can do with that, will you, young Jeeves? They need to look happy and healthy and Charlotte hates her school cardie, so make it a brighter colour will you? There's a knighthood in it for you in 20 years if you do a decent job."

smooththecat · 11/03/2024 07:23

People here don’t know how news works. News agencies cannot distribute images that have been manipulated in a way that alters the content. It doesn’t mean there’s something going on, it’s just that they can’t distribute the image as news.

Primrosecottagelover · 11/03/2024 07:25

I think it’s because heads have been added and swapped or heavily edited. If it was minor photoshopping the agencies would have allowed it but this went too far.

maybe also old.

I do think the royal family’s wheels are coming off.

I don’t think anyone has an appetite for a family that doesn’t have glamour of vigour.

I definitely think this is a Princess protest.

Media have gone very quiet on this story considering and seems something is brewing.

EasternEcho · 11/03/2024 07:26

@smooththecat Yes, and it seems a significant number of posters here keep confusing merely editing a photo with manipulating/significantly altering it, to the point that responsible news agencies cannot keep it in circulation.

Zyq · 11/03/2024 07:26

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 10/03/2024 22:39

What does pulling the picture mean here? Weren't the news outlets just reporting that a new photo had been released for Mother's Day? Which is correct. It is a new photo released for Mother's Day. It's not even claimed to be off her now is it? It just said 2024. What is actually being suggested is the issue? That it's a completely fabricated picture where she wasn't even there and has been photoshopped next to the children.

As an aside, the thing I thought was weird about the picture was the fact she wasn't wearing her wedding ring or engagement ring. You'd think KP would be thinking "people will notice this, so even if the ring is a bit big post-surgery, just wear it for the picture".

The problem was more likely to be that the rings were a bit small. Her fingers may be a bit swollen post surgery so that wearing the rings was not an option.

LadyMuckonpancakes · 11/03/2024 07:32

I wonder if it was taken on a tripod or something on timed shutter release? So not taken by William at all?

CrispsandCheeseSandwich · 11/03/2024 07:33

Are they going to have to comment on this now? I mean, if it's not photoshopped, just say so. If it is, I can easily believe the suggestion that it's a few photos merged together to get the best one of each of them. And if that's the case, they can just say that - the vast majority of people would recognise that that's a fine thing to do. The picture was always going to be shared globally, of course you don't want the one where Louis is about to sneeze, or Charlotte has her eyes half closed etc. So again, just say that.

I think they'd have been better off not sharing any picture, and that would have been totally fine. There shouldn't have been any need to share one. They should have continued with their line of "she's recovering from surgery, please bugger off". But since they did share a picture, I don't think they can ignore what has happened to it.

ochrebla · 11/03/2024 07:36

If you pull the whole photo away from you and look at it as a whole, it seems that Catherine's face is too big. I don't mean puffy, or that one cheek is fuller than the other (which it is) just that her face/head is out of proportion to her body and the kids.

Jk8 · 11/03/2024 07:36

All2Well · 10/03/2024 23:54

Yes, when you try and figure out the logistics, her left arm seems too short so would have to be bent to go around Charlotte like that but it would be hard to do that with George's weight over her shoulders and chest.

What an ODD photo.

The lower half of her body looks tiny compared to her head/hair aswell as the small arm

I'm guessing the photo is actually of carole Middleton/pippa for mothers day 'last week' & kates head & hands have been added on with the childrens clothes colours changed - its a lovely photo on face value but incredibly odd close up.

Lavendersquare · 11/03/2024 07:36

In my opinion, I don't think the (bad) photoshopping in itself is the problem (every celebrity photo is touched up to some extent), I think it's more fundamental than that.

It's been alleged that it's not Kate in the released picture (her head and hair looks photoshopped) so if evidence has been produced eg. the original pic then William has tried to pull a fast one.

Apparently it's unheard of for a kill notice to issued for a picture released by such a prominent source like Kensington Palace/Prince William, usually these notices are for minor paparazzi who have tried to sell a wonky manipulated shot of a celebrity in a compromising situation.