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Ukraine Invasion: Part 48

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MagicFox · 09/03/2024 10:25

That last one went quickly! Welcome to thread 48. Thanks as usual to all for the information, guidance and solidarity.

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blueshoes · 20/04/2024 21:48

MissConductUS · 20/04/2024 21:00

The US Department of Defense has critical ammunition and supplies ready to ship as soon as the bill clears Congress and expects it to reach the front lines in less than a week.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1781675437740969985

God speed.

I am so glad to see the US continue to take military and moral leadership. Thank you USA from the bottom of my heart ❤It is indeed the right thing to do. Values prevailed, at the end of the day, and restored my faith.

minsmum · 20/04/2024 21:54

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1780707878040662149 anti government and anti russian protests in Georgia

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1780707878040662149

MagicFox · 20/04/2024 22:34

Thank God! May be this beginning of a greater tide turning. Slava Ukraini!

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heldinadream · 21/04/2024 06:12

At last. Thanks USA. 💕

MissConductUS · 21/04/2024 10:30

heldinadream · 21/04/2024 06:12

At last. Thanks USA. 💕

You're welcome. Sorry it took so bloody long. 🙂

heldinadream · 21/04/2024 11:06

MissConductUS · 21/04/2024 10:30

You're welcome. Sorry it took so bloody long. 🙂

Hoping it turns the tide. 💪

Arconialiving · 21/04/2024 11:13

Thank you USA! Slava Ukraini!

DancesWithDucks · 21/04/2024 12:13

Slava Ukraini!

blueshoes · 21/04/2024 12:14

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-april-20-2024

Key Takeaways:

  • The US House of Representatives passed a supplemental appropriations bill on April 20 providing for roughly $60 billion of assistance to Ukraine. The bill must now be passed by the Senate and signed by the president before aid can begin to flow.
  • These requirements and the logistics of transporting US materiel to the frontline in Ukraine will likely mean that new US assistance will not begin to affect the situation on the front line for several weeks. The frontline situation will therefore likely continue to deteriorate in that time, particularly if Russian forces increase their attacks to take advantage of the limited window before the arrival of new US aid.
  • Ukrainian forces may suffer additional setbacks in the coming weeks while waiting for US security assistance that will allow Ukraine to stabilize the front, but they will likely be able to blunt the current Russian offensive assuming the resumed US assistance arrives promptly.
  • Russian forces will likely intensify ongoing offensive operations and missile and drone strikes in the coming weeks in order to exploit the closing window of Ukrainian materiel constraints.
  • Ukraine will likely be in a significantly improved operational position by June 2024 regardless of delays in the arrival of US security assistance to the frontline, and the Russian military command will likely consider significant changes to the large-scale offensive operation that it is expected to launch in June, although it may still proceed as planned.
  • The likely resumption of US security assistance to Ukraine is a critical turning point in the war in Ukraine, but the Kremlin, the West, and Ukraine still have additional decisions to make that will determine the character and outcome of the fighting.
  • Ukrainian forces reportedly conducted successful drone strikes against several energy infrastructure facilities and a fuel storage facility within Russia on the night of April 19 to 20.
  • The Kremlin appears to be censoring demands for an investigation into the reported murder of a former Donetsk People Republic (DNR) serviceman amid a wider trend of the Kremlin coopting or otherwise censoring DNR-affiliated voices within the Russian information space.
  • Russian forces recently made confirmed advances near Chasiv Yar (west of Bakhmut) and northwest of Avdiivka, and Ukrainian forces recently made confirmed advances south of Kreminna.
  • Ukrainian and Russian sources reported that Russian forces are using US-made 203mm artillery ammunition that Russia may have received from Iran.
Ukraine Invasion: Part 48
DancesWithDucks · 21/04/2024 12:32

@blueshoes thanks very much for taking over the kyiv roundup yesterday =)

Kyiv Independent Telegram Highlights

⚡️BREAKING: US House passes $61 billion in aid to Ukraine.
The U.S. House of Representatives on April 20 passed $61 billion in aid for Ukraine after months of political infighting and a deteriorating situation on the battlefield. kyivindependent.com/breaking-u-s-house-passes-61-billion-ukraine-aid-bill/

⚡️ US Senate to begin considering House-passed bill on April 23. https://kyivindependent.com/breaking-u-s-house-passes-61-billion-ukraine-aid-bill/
The Senate is likely to pass a key foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel, and other allies, which would then head to President Joe Biden, who has signaled that he would sign it.

⚡️US House approves bill to transfer seized Russian assets to Ukraine. https://kyivindependent.com/us-house-approves-bill-to-transfer-seized-russian-assets-to-ukraine/
The bill caters to Republican priorities, also including sanctions on Iran and a measure that could lead to a nationwide ban on TikTok. The House also approved a key foreign aid package that includes almost $61 billion to assist Ukraine.

President Volodymyr Zelensky praised the U.S. House of Representatives on April 20 for approving long-awaited $61 billion in aid for Ukraine. https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-praises-us-house-for-passing-ukraine-aid-bill/

⚡️Politico: The United States is contemplating the deployment of additional military advisers to the embassy in Kyiv as Russia appears to be gaining momentum on the front lines. These advisers would not serve in combat capacities. https://kyivindependent.com/politico-us-considers-deploying-extra-military-advisers-to-ukraine/

⚡️Slovak citizens raise $2.8 million for Czech ammunition initiative after government refuses to contribute
Nearly 40,000 Slovaks contributed to the initiative, with an average donation worth 64 euros ($68), according to the "Ammunition for Ukraine" website. https://kyivindependent.com/slovak-citizens-raise-2-8-for-czech-ammunition-initiative-after-governments-refusal-to-contribute/

⚡️Explosion in Sevastopol, Russian ship reportedly on fire kyivindependent.com/explosion-in-sevastopol-russian-ship-reportedly-on-fire-and-crimea-bridge-closed/
A source in Ukraine’s military intelligence told the Kyiv Independent that information on the strike was still being clarified.

⚡️Source: Ukrainian drones strike Russian military fuelling facilities overnight. https://kyivindependent.com/source-ukraine-targeted-russias-energy-facilities-fueling-military-industrial-complex-at-night/

Ukraine's obsolete S-200 missile systems reportedly back on track to hit Russian targets https://kyivindependent.com/ukraines-obsolete-s-200-missile-systems-reportedly-back-on-track-to-hit-russian-targets/
Ukraine has reportedly shot down multiple Russian planes using an old Soviet-made S-200 air defense system that was scrapped by Ukraine a decade earlier and revitalized after the start of the full-scale invasion.

⚡️Mediazona confirms identities of over 50,400 Russian soldiers https://kyivindependent.com/mediazona-confirms-identities-of-over-50-400-russian-soldiers-killed-in-ukraine/ killed in Ukraine.

⚡️Zelensky signs decree https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-signs-decree-to-restrict-online-gambling/ to restrict online gambling.

Who was Pavlo Petrychenko, the prominent activist recently killed in combat? https://kyivindependent.com/who-was-pavlo-petrychenko-prominent-activist-killed-in-combat/
In his battle for Ukraine, Pavlo Petrychenko used not only weapons but also his voice. A renowned Kyiv activist, he fought for the prosecution of corrupt Ukrainian officials, demanding justice for his fellow activists. On April 15, just a day before his 32nd birthday, he was killed in combat in Donetsk Oblast.

Ragnar Bjartur Gudmundsson 🇺🇦

  • APR 21, 2024
■ Engagements & casualties well above average ■ Massive equipment losses; incl. 4 air defence systems ■ Improved strike ratios; 6 🇺🇦 artillery strikes reported ■ Oryx: Corrections & removal of duplicates; 30-day ratio to 2.6x
Ukraine Invasion: Part 48
DancesWithDucks · 21/04/2024 13:11

UNITED24 Media Telegram Highlights

The transfer of $300 billion in frozen Russian assets to Ukraine has been postponed until June, according to a statement by G7 leaders following a meeting in Italy.

European Council approves duties on agricultural products from Russia and Belarus — DW.
The European Council called for further imposition of duties on imports of grains, oilseeds and their products from Russia and Belarus, including wheat, corn, and sunflower meal. At the same time, the leaders of the European Union and its member states emphasized that it is necessary to guarantee “that this will not affect the transit of these goods to developing countries.”
"This will prevent Russian grain from destabilizing the EU market for these products, keep Russia from using the proceeds from exporting these goods to the EU, and ensure that illegal Russian exports of stolen Ukrainian grain do not affect the EU market," said European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.
In 2023, Russia exported approximately €1.3 billion worth of such products to the European Union.

NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg said that the participants in the NATO-Ukraine Council meeting agreed to increase support for Ukraine with air defense.
"NATO has mapped out available resources across the Alliance. There are systems that are available for Ukraine. So I expect new announcements on air defense assistance to Ukraine in the near future," he announced.

China is now Russia's primary military complex supplier, — US Secretary of State Antony Blinken.
"...when it comes to the Russian defense industry, China is now the main supplier. We see China sharing machine tools, semiconductors, and other dual-use goods that have helped Russia rebuild its defense industry."

A delegation of representatives of Denmark, Estonia, France, Sweden and high-ranking UN officials has arrived in Kharkiv.

More than half of a £900m military fund for Ukraine run by the British Ministry of Defense has not been used because of bureaucratic delays in handing out contracts, — The Guardian.
The UK-led International Fund for Ukraine counts nine countries among its donors. Critics claim its provision of weapons to the frontline has been slow. Of the £900m donated by governments over the last two years, of which £500m came from the UK, just £404m has been committed or spent.
Some of the equipment covered in the contracts signed will not reach Ukraine until spring next year, ministers have admitted. The delays are said by MoD officials to have been caused by a need to assess each of the huge number of defense companies that have tendered for contracts. [FUCKING HELL]

Ukraine will receive €560 million from the European Investment Bank (EIB) this year for projects in energy, transportation infrastructure and housing recovery.

Drone manufacturer Quantum Systems has opened a plant in Ukraine — Defence Industry.
The new plant will be the German company's second facility in Ukraine. Over the next two years, Quantum Systems will invest up to €6 million in production

Volodymyr Zelenskyy visited the Donetsk region to meet and award the soldiers deployed in Chasiv Yar, visit the wounded, and inspect the construction of fortifications.

At a meeting of the NATO-Ukraine Council, Volodymyr Zelenskyy named 5 urgent defense needs of Ukraine: 7 Patriot air defense systems or similar, one million artillery shells, long-range weapons, aviation and speed in the supply of these weapons.

🇱🇹Lithuania has handed over an L-39ZA "Albatros" light attack aircraft to Ukraine.

Environmental damage from Russian attacks already exceeds 2.4 trillion hryvnias — Ministry of Environmental Protection and Natural Resources.

Russian missile attack on Odesa region destroyed containers with agricultural products that were to be exported to Asia and Africa.
Two terminals in the Pivdennyi port, which specialize in transshipment of agricultural products, were attacked. One of the terminals belongs to the Singaporean company Delta Wilmar, according to the Ministry for Communities, Territories, and Infrastructure.

"Countries that maintain close relations with Russia also have doubts about the expediency of the war in Ukraine," German Chancellor Olaf Scholz stated.

DancesWithDucks · 21/04/2024 13:32

Live: Ukraine Telegram Highlights

🇺🇸 The United States plans to send https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/20/us-troops-ukraine-00153499** about 60 military advisors to Ukraine for a non-combat role

🇩🇪Germany has offered to give Ukraine equipment from closed thermal power plants to help restore the power system after Russian strikes
The Energy Ministry said that this is a good option, as it would allow for quick repairs. If Ukraine orders equipment for the facilities from manufacturers, it won't be available until winter

German drone manufacturer Quantum-Systems has opened https://quantum-systems.com/quantum-systems-opens-factory-and-development-hub-in-ukraine/ a drone production facility in Ukraine.
The plant will produce a thousand unmanned systems per year, as well as spare parts and components. Over the next two years, the manufacturer will invest €6 million in the plant. This is the company's second facility in Ukraine, where it already operates a research, development, support, training, and logistics center.

🇺🇦The commander of the 12th Brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine asked https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02vv8rgtsrprvftH9gV1PttHMmikgJdHBBRSRYARALqSr9CFd8tvdsuCnZtqT95NySl&id=100092398602398** the United States to lift the ban on arms transfers to Azov
Denys ("Redis") Prokopenko notes that since 2017, an amendment prohibiting the provision of weapons to Azov has been circulating in several US Appropriations bills. It was introduced because of myths that the battalion is "openly neo-Nazi."

🇩🇰🇺🇦New Commander-in-Chief of the Danish Army pays a visit to Ukraine

📹Ukrainian Cities: Before and After the War

This is what monuments in Kharkiv look like, nowadays
Painfully symbolic. Protecting children’s lives shouldn’t depend on international politics.

Synelnykove, Dnipropetrovs'k oblast. The ruins of a house where an entire family died – a grandmother, a mother, and two children aged 8 and 14
The 6-year-old younger boy was resuscitated in the hospital. Local children collect the belongings of their dead friends. https://t.me/liveukraine_media/20219

Mike Johnson had recently held a meeting with Serhii Gaidarzhi, whose wife and 4-month-old son were killed in a Russian attack on Odesa on March 2.

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Februaryfeels · 21/04/2024 16:36

I see the news has awakened the latest shills

Today we have the awful houseguests (with proxy war and corruption thrown in for good measure )

WinterMorn · 21/04/2024 16:54

@Februaryfeels that’s the post I didn’t know how to link yesterday. I have been battling on there for hours!

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/04/2024 16:56

I fully intended to apply a bit of reason on that thread, but to be honest, I think it has got past praying for. Plenty of stuff I know to be ... let's be kind and call it inexact rather than outright lies, and I don't feel that I can summon the mental energy to try to counter it. Sorry, Ukraine. And sorry, WinterMorn, because you are doing valiant work there and I really ought to be supporting you. I'm a bit useless this week.

Igotjelly · 21/04/2024 16:59

I think it’s important though to realise the Ukrainians aren’t infallible. There will be good ones and bad, same as any other nation. There will be chancers who have come here and played the system and who have soured relationships with their hosts. That doesn’t mean there won’t also have been people who have come and built wonderful relationships with their hosts. Both things can be true and don’t make Ukraine any less worthy of our help.

WinterMorn · 21/04/2024 17:01

Don’t worry Asking I am made of tough stuff! Hope next week is better for you 🌷

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/04/2024 17:22

Igotjelly
Both things can be true and don’t make Ukraine any less worthy of our help.

Yes. This.

in any case even horrible entitled little shits should be protected from rape, torture and abuse; there is something in the bible which ought to apply here about hating the sin and loving the sinner. I dislike people who take advantage but that doesn't mean I should refuse ever to give anyone at all any help just in case they turn out later to have been taking the mick.

WinterMorn, this past few days I've been finding it impossible to cope with malice, but I fully expect that to improve when I have chased it down and stomped on it. There just seems to be rather a lot of it drifting about on that thread: hating and badmouthing just for the sake of it and to cause damage and hurt. (Damn: I am turning into a snowflake. Memo to self: must try harder.)

Natsku · 21/04/2024 17:31

blueshoes · 20/04/2024 20:37

<Crying with relief>

Ukraine aid bill passed 311 to 112 with all Democrats and less than half of Republicans in support.

💙💛🙏🙏🙏💙💛

Oh that is a relief!

TheABC · 21/04/2024 18:02

I am relieved that the vote has passed and Ukraine has more aid. That will hopefully fill the gaps.

However, it feels like we are running to keep still. Russia has reconfigured its economy for war and seems happy to keep going. What will force it to stop?

Mb76 · 21/04/2024 19:04

WinterMorn · 21/04/2024 16:54

@Februaryfeels that’s the post I didn’t know how to link yesterday. I have been battling on there for hours!

Thank you @WinterMorn 💐
I caught up with the thread and wanted to thank you for your battle on that thread.

agree it’s not a coincidence that the trolls are out after the Bill news

Mb76 · 21/04/2024 19:06

Igotjelly · 21/04/2024 16:59

I think it’s important though to realise the Ukrainians aren’t infallible. There will be good ones and bad, same as any other nation. There will be chancers who have come here and played the system and who have soured relationships with their hosts. That doesn’t mean there won’t also have been people who have come and built wonderful relationships with their hosts. Both things can be true and don’t make Ukraine any less worthy of our help.

This exactly.

Mb76 · 21/04/2024 19:10

Februaryfeels · 21/04/2024 16:36

I see the news has awakened the latest shills

Today we have the awful houseguests (with proxy war and corruption thrown in for good measure )

Not to forget the “neo nazis” Azov and less than innocent Zelenskyy who may or may not be Jewish 🙄🙄
the shills and their narratives are very predictable

Mb76 · 21/04/2024 19:20

I’ve been fighting own small battle at work with this reseller from ru who we caught and managed to ban, they did not go quietly. I’m still able to see their comments on social media regarding the whole issue and they are fuming. The comments from their friends/ clients on there are less than savoury, a lot of bigots and racists. Accusing our brand of all sorts (yet still wanting to buy our products) 🤔They are now trying to place orders from our brands website in another country but they don’t know that:

a. I can see them and their moves on Sm and am one step ahead, and
b. We are a global brand and we share access to our systems with other markets …. The other country has been forewarned and are ready to respond with same messages we did and ban them

I know it’s a small thing in the grand scheme of things but I am glad I can do what I can to stop this one person … at a time

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