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10 year old hot how often misbehave?

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purpleme12 · 20/02/2024 21:46

Your 10 year olds
How often are they violent eg throw things? Or any other violence?
How often do yours scream/shout?
Are they aggressive? How often?
Show disrespect to you?
How does yours respond if you give a consequence?

Would like to know what other are like

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purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 00:03

toomanyleggings · 20/02/2024 23:56

Dd is ten, we get huffing and puffing and a lot of having to ask her five times before she does something. Sometimes she will cry and stomp feet over bedtimes and screen times and argue that friends are allowed later etc. very occasionally she will have a meltdown that involves lying on her bedroom floor crying.

I could take crying over the anger 😂

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purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 00:09

i have no idea what to think half the time. you constantly doubt yourself. about if you're doing the right thing.

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MamaMode · 21/02/2024 00:20

@purpleme12
How would your DD react to working with you to make a list of realistic ground rules (to put on the wall) for her behaviour? She could help choose the consequences for any negative behaviour or the reward for a week or two of positive behaviour. Maybe throw in a behavioural rule for yourself (no swearing or to play a game (not looking bored) with DD every Sunday etc). DD can pick your consequence of not following the rule🤣.
She might respect the rules if she feels part of the decision about them

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purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 00:23

MamaMode · 21/02/2024 00:20

@purpleme12
How would your DD react to working with you to make a list of realistic ground rules (to put on the wall) for her behaviour? She could help choose the consequences for any negative behaviour or the reward for a week or two of positive behaviour. Maybe throw in a behavioural rule for yourself (no swearing or to play a game (not looking bored) with DD every Sunday etc). DD can pick your consequence of not following the rule🤣.
She might respect the rules if she feels part of the decision about them

We have done the writing down ground rules before.
Don't know where that's gone now.
We've not sat down together and have her agree to consequences and rewards to those.

Honestly I'm worried that I'd always be giving consequences if we did that!

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TadpolesInPool · 21/02/2024 01:18

We had no clue it was ADHD. Ds1 had always been difficult (horrific sleeper, highly emotional, hyper sensitive, very demanding, very active, difficult eater, utterly wonderful but exhausting). Id done online autism questionnaires but nothing was flagged.

He used to get awful, regular migraines. I spent so much time seeing various specialists to see if we could find out why. Eventually when he was 8 I got his eyes tested again. Perfect eyesight but weak muscles so sent for "physio" for eyes. That physio literally changed our lives. The lady said she thinks he's dyspraxic and put us in contact with a pedopsychiatrist (we re not in the UK). He got tested and came back with a diagnosis for dyspraxia but she said there were also signs of ADHD so sent him to be tested for that. Diagnosed age 9.

A year later after much research into ADHD I said that DS2 shows even more signs of it than DS1 (especially hyperactivity) so I got him tested. And he came back with the same 2 diagnosis, despite them both being very different.

Ways we changed our behaviour: basically I realised with horror that we spent loads of time criticising DS1. How he held his cutlery, couldn't tie shoe laces, rolled around on the floor whilst reciting his lessons instead of standing neatly as he would have to in school. His handwriting. Any bad marks at school. His emotional outbursts earnt him time out in his room. Except he hated it so we would carry him in screaming 😥. Lots of little things which the diagnosis showed us werent his fault.

He also strongly reacts to my emotions. So my stress and unhappiness set him off.

We decided to step back on all the little niggles that actually don't matter. When he got angry and upset, rather than tell him off I would just hug him. Or just sit there waiting until he ran out of steam at which point he would come for a hug. He used to drive me crazy by not talking properly but just come into the kitchen and groan at me. I'd snap and it would escalate. Eventually I started saying "use words" and so he told me he wanted a cuddle. So simple!

I can't remember many other things really (it was a very tough time) but the main thing was we took a HUGE step back and started looking at it that DS1 wasn't responsible for his reactions and behaviour. So we relaxed, and relaxed the punishments. And his behaviour improved enormously. The ADHD meds stopped his migraines and help him regulate his emotions. We still have some bad days but I've stopped telling him he's wrong for what he's feeling (even me simply saying that XYZ don't matter wouls set him off because to him they DID matter).

purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 01:41

Thanks that's interesting.
I do find it exhausting

When you say you relaxed the punishments do you mean you stopped giving consequences for bad behaviour? Or not as often? Or something else?

I'll take anything that might help!

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VivienneDelacroix · 21/02/2024 01:49

My older two did none of this at ten. My youngest is almost ten and screams and shouts several times a day (especially if given a consequence). She's agressive maybe twice a week, and disrespectful daily to dh but rarely to me. She's diagnosed autistic and is really struggling at the moment. (As are we all).

purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 01:57

VivienneDelacroix · 21/02/2024 01:49

My older two did none of this at ten. My youngest is almost ten and screams and shouts several times a day (especially if given a consequence). She's agressive maybe twice a week, and disrespectful daily to dh but rarely to me. She's diagnosed autistic and is really struggling at the moment. (As are we all).

Ok that's interesting

What other behaviour does she have that makes her autistic?
Have you been given any help with the behaviour you mentioned? (Just because I wondered if you'd had access to any other help with an actual diagnosis) and is there anything you do that you think helps?

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yodog · 21/02/2024 06:57

@purpleme12
both kids are on the waiting list 11 year old and 8 year old.
11 year old presents his adhd different to his brother, he can't follow instructions, focus or concentrate on a task. he is easily distracted. fidgets constantly, at school he is unable to stay still and is up and down when he is meant to be sitting, he also can't get to sleep on a night..

8 year old, is fearless, no sense of danger, climbs everything, also struggles to keep still and focus and concentrate on a task, for example, doing a school book, he's up and down twirling around after every other sentence. Same with eating a meal he can't keep still, we can't go out for meals as neither would be able to sit there for long,
Also can't queue, if we go somewhere where there's a queue a theme park for example both of them would rather just go play on a park there than wait their turn in the queue.
There's more but these are the main things that we/they struggle with as well as the emotional dysregulatiom with 8 year old.

purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 08:05

See I just can't see that she fits all that

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purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 08:58

This morning she ran up to me to catch up with me but deliberately pushed past me. Plenty of room on footpath.
It's all when she's annoyed/angry. Because I wasn't waiting for her as we were late.
You just don't do that do you?

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TadpolesInPool · 21/02/2024 10:04

We stopped any punishments that were for emotional outbursts. Cos they just made him worse.

Once when he was 9 (so after diagnosis) he came out of holiday club and I said something innocuous about doing homework before tv. He got really angry and lashed out at me then carried on walking down the street shouting at me (a passer by looked in horror). I said nothing. I walked next to him in silence for 20 minutes as he ranted. Then he suddenly stopped and hugged me and apologised for pushing me. Turns out he'd been bullied all day by someone he thought was a friend. And he just cracked when I picked him up.

Previously Id have shouted back and taken away tv time. This time I let his anger run its course and we had a much nicer evening.

Your DD pushed past you. Not nice but you say she was angry at being left behind. Seriously, just let it go. She's 10 and dealing with strong emotions. Maybe talk about it when she's calmer.

DS1 now hardly ever rants (age 12) and only occasionally has an angry outburst, but its quick lived and justified (usually an injustice).

yodog · 21/02/2024 10:16

@purpleme12 besides the emotional outbursts/ defiance what other things does your daughter do that your struggling with? were you thinking along the lines of autism? It's a large spectrum, and girls can mask so well.

purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 13:00

TadpolesInPool · 21/02/2024 10:04

We stopped any punishments that were for emotional outbursts. Cos they just made him worse.

Once when he was 9 (so after diagnosis) he came out of holiday club and I said something innocuous about doing homework before tv. He got really angry and lashed out at me then carried on walking down the street shouting at me (a passer by looked in horror). I said nothing. I walked next to him in silence for 20 minutes as he ranted. Then he suddenly stopped and hugged me and apologised for pushing me. Turns out he'd been bullied all day by someone he thought was a friend. And he just cracked when I picked him up.

Previously Id have shouted back and taken away tv time. This time I let his anger run its course and we had a much nicer evening.

Your DD pushed past you. Not nice but you say she was angry at being left behind. Seriously, just let it go. She's 10 and dealing with strong emotions. Maybe talk about it when she's calmer.

DS1 now hardly ever rants (age 12) and only occasionally has an angry outburst, but its quick lived and justified (usually an injustice).

But it's not just that? It all the things I outlined
Screaming/shouting
Throwing things
Sometimes violent to me.
Aggressive
Surely I can't let all those things go?

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purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 13:02

yodog · 21/02/2024 10:16

@purpleme12 besides the emotional outbursts/ defiance what other things does your daughter do that your struggling with? were you thinking along the lines of autism? It's a large spectrum, and girls can mask so well.

No not thinking autism. I can't fit her into the autism traits.

Really it is the emotional outbursts and defiance that is the problem. She gets angry at many things and can't control herself

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purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 13:04

Any more experiences about 10 year olds welcome as well

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purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 14:55

@TadpolesInPool do you think I should let all that behaviour go?

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wubwubwub · 21/02/2024 14:59

purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 13:02

No not thinking autism. I can't fit her into the autism traits.

Really it is the emotional outbursts and defiance that is the problem. She gets angry at many things and can't control herself

Is she like this at school? (Violence... Aggression etc)

wubwubwub · 21/02/2024 15:01

purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 13:02

No not thinking autism. I can't fit her into the autism traits.

Really it is the emotional outbursts and defiance that is the problem. She gets angry at many things and can't control herself

What kind of things is she getting angry at? What outlets does she have.

She's a little girl who is no doubt getting puberty hormones...it's hard, kids hit puberty younger these days and find it harder.

I don't think you should punish the emotional outbursts... Work harder to notice the warning signs and help her find a good way to get her frustration out without hurting people.

Otherwise all you're doing is saying/showing her that negative emotions should be suppressed for fear of punishment....

wubwubwub · 21/02/2024 15:02

purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 08:58

This morning she ran up to me to catch up with me but deliberately pushed past me. Plenty of room on footpath.
It's all when she's annoyed/angry. Because I wasn't waiting for her as we were late.
You just don't do that do you?

What led up to this incident where you left her behind?

Pipilo · 21/02/2024 15:07

Autistic 10 year old.

He shouts and screams on a daily basis about having to do the most basic things - eat, get dressed, do minimal chores.

He doesn’t repeatedly hit or kick us anymore but will mouth as if he is about to bite, occasionally scratch and punch.

When calm if given a consequence he will most likely do it, but could not do so when in a heightened state. The consequence would inflame things massively.

He repeatedly speaks to us in a rude manner but will apologise when you point this out to him.

He never swears and never insults us.

purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 15:07

Us being late for school.
Because she didn't think her hair looked good so she did it again.
Fine at school.

I'll have another think. Thanks for trying with the responses here. But I'm not sure how to actually successfully correct the behaviour as it's not worked so far

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purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 15:09

wubwubwub · 21/02/2024 15:01

What kind of things is she getting angry at? What outlets does she have.

She's a little girl who is no doubt getting puberty hormones...it's hard, kids hit puberty younger these days and find it harder.

I don't think you should punish the emotional outbursts... Work harder to notice the warning signs and help her find a good way to get her frustration out without hurting people.

Otherwise all you're doing is saying/showing her that negative emotions should be suppressed for fear of punishment....

I have tried to say all the time that being angry is ok. What is not ok is he behaviour when she's angry

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purpleme12 · 21/02/2024 15:09

Pipilo · 21/02/2024 15:07

Autistic 10 year old.

He shouts and screams on a daily basis about having to do the most basic things - eat, get dressed, do minimal chores.

He doesn’t repeatedly hit or kick us anymore but will mouth as if he is about to bite, occasionally scratch and punch.

When calm if given a consequence he will most likely do it, but could not do so when in a heightened state. The consequence would inflame things massively.

He repeatedly speaks to us in a rude manner but will apologise when you point this out to him.

He never swears and never insults us.

Thank you

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rainbowxlight · 21/02/2024 15:10

DS (age 9.5) occasionally acts out violently (not towards others) with shouting and throwing things/messing up a room when he is extremely frustrated about something. It used to happen frequently, probably between the ages of 3 and 7 but now happens much less often (probably once every 6wks or so?).

He has always been quick to anger and slow to calm down. He gravitates more towards incessant arguing now but does lash out occasionally.

He knows now that being alone for a while in his room helps him to calm down. Imposing any kind of consequences just fuels the fire.