Your Mandela Effect moment

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I posted about mine on here a while back… it was about two celebrities that I distinctly remembered were supposed to have dated, but there’s literally nothing about in online, and no one here remembered either (and even found proof that one half of the supposed couple was married to someone else at the time!)

Have you had a Mandela Effect moment? And, when you realised you’d misremembered something, how did you react? My instinct was to look for logic explanations (e.g. I’d misunderstood a denial of a rumoured relationship). However, when I look at these things online, I’m amazed by how many people will accept literally any other explanation than “I was wrong”.

One that particularly fascinates me is around a film called Shazam. Countless people claim they can remember it, that they used to watch it all the time when they were kids… yet it doesn’t exist. When you read into it, it actually becomes quite obvious how it happened: there was a film called Kazaam that came out around the same time with the exact plot they describe, and Sinbad - the actor/comedian they believe starred as a genie in Shazam - starred in a series of TV ads as a genie around the same time. Yet thousands utterly refuse to believe that there’s no such film.

Anyone got any good examples?

Still on Jaws and Dolly - it seems this might have some truth or at least another explanation?

"The actress who played Dolly, Blanche Ravalec, has stated that she didn't wear braces during filming which is correct. The braces were edited in during post-production and if you saw Moonraker at the cinema then yes, Dolly was wearing braces to make the comedy scene with Jaws. When put out on VHS and then DVD the unedited version was used so Dolly wasn't wearing braces, I can clearly remember thinking WTF? when I saw the new version and saw she wasn't wearing braces any more."

I remember the salt and vinegar being blue and cheese and onion green!

What other explanation could be inferred if you're sure it happened and Walkers say it didn't?

Watching on TV, a Sherlock Holmes with Richard E Grant as Sherlock Homes. When I think of Sherlock Holmes I picture Richard E Grant. He has never actually played Sherlock Holmes
. According to Google, it may have been Rupert Everett in the title role.

Aaaaaarrrggghhh, but not Walkers

I distinctly remember the year (early nineties I think) that the BBC had as their April fools joke the news that Disney had bought Hadrian's Wall and we're going to turn it into a themed attraction with rides etc called Hadrian's Whizzy Wall. Remember eating my cereal before school and my mum had radio 4 on and we heard it and had a chuckle. I mentioned this to a few people last year when me and my family went to Hadrian's Wall and nobody had any memory of it. Google turned up nothing either. But I can remember it quite clearly - plus what a random thing to invent?! I loved Disney but was pretty indifferent to (maybe even unaware of!) Hadrian's Wall.

The actress who played Dolly, Blanche Ravalec, has stated that she didn't wear braces during filming which is correct. The braces were edited in during post-production and if you saw Moonraker at the cinema then yes, Dolly was wearing braces to make the comedy scene with Jaws. When put out on VHS and then DVD the unedited version was used so Dolly wasn't wearing braces, I can clearly remember thinking WTF? when I saw the new version and saw she wasn't wearing braces any more."

I found that post and there’s no evidence for that poster’s statement. It’s just their opinion. Also I love that they inevitably start discussing the Walker’s crisp thing.

Are you maybe thinking of the walkers cheese and chive ones? They were in a similar colour packet.

There seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding on this thread (leaving aside all mention of crisps). A Mandela Effect is a false memory shared by a large number of people. An individual misremembering something doesn't count - that's just a false memory.

I have a very clear memory of buying things in my local toy shop with half pennies. I was born in 1983 so this would have been around 1990. Google says half pennies were stoped in 1984. So it can't be a true memory. Can it?

Lots of things mentioned on this thread aren’t the Mandela Effect. The Mandela Effect is lots of people misremembering the same thing, like the crisps example. Many things on this thread are just one person misremembering something personal to them - interesting about how fallible memory is, but not the Mandela Effect!

Cross post noname846!

Well that's the whole point of the Mandela effect. You are sure something has happened even if its not true. It's not that you are accusing anyone of lying. You have simply misremembered something. Maybe this is your Mandela effect. You misremembered me accusing walkers of lying?

Sweet baby Jesus and all the angels.

I have a very clear memory of buying things in my local toy shop with half pennies. I was born in 1983 so this would have been around 1990. Google says half pennies were stoped in 1984. So it can't be a true memory. Can it?

No. It wouldn’t have been possible.

And yet we still convict and imprison people based on eye witness testimony.

No more mention of crisps packet colours now please. 💙💚

This could have been an interesting thread about false memories instead it was the same thing repeated forever.

The mandela effect is an accepted false memory. The fact that you say you are sure you remember it logically means that you must equally be sure that others are wrong.

It wasn't me who said you were accusing walkers of lying, I was saying that it's the only conclusion of the fact that you are certain you are correct, you aren't accepting that your memory is wrong

This could have been an interesting thread about false memories instead it was the same thing repeated forever.

Welcome to every Mandela Effect thread ever.

Sometimes people remembering things wrongly isnt the same thing as eye witnesses never being right

If course it can be unreliable, I don't anyone says otherwise but it's one valid form of evidence in conjunction with others

I'm sorry @shoppingshamed

I didn't use the word "never", but I disagree that it is valid given all the peer-reviewed evidence about how fallible and malleable people's perceptions and observations are.

Something can happen right in front of someone's gaze and they'll fail to see it or come away convinced they saw something else entirely.

Nevermind the fact that memory is reconstructed and changes every time it is recalled.

Many, many years ago I was on the jury in quite an unpleasant case, the witness said that some of the events had happened when the accused had worked as a live in carer for a disabled man.
The witness was a 10 year old girl at the time. She could name the disabled man, say where the house was, what it looked like, and had clear memory of the interior.
The police and the prosecutor had looked into it and couldn’t find any evidence of this disabled man ever existing, that the accused had ever worked as a carer or even that there was ever a house in the location claimed.
The witness swore that what she remembered was completely true.

(as it was there was a huge amount of other evidence and the accused was sent to prison for a rather long time, which he deserved.)

But as several posters on the thread have pointed out, Walkers has stated more than once that the swap never happened. I’m just wondering why you think they’ve said that if there was a swap.