Acid attack in Clapham

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Has anyone else seen this horrible news story? Apparently 9 people have been injured, looks like the original targets were a woman and two children.

What is WRONG with people?!

I thought there is an international law which requires reasonable attempts to rescue unless it puts sailors in danger

That would be the SOLAS/SAR regulations, @MCOut ... see below

Got to go out now, so if anyone @'s me please don't think me rude if I don't reply

https://blogs.law.ox.ac.uk/research-subject-groups/centre-criminology/centreborder-criminologies/blog/2020/03/duty-rescue

The UK has far greater numbers coming by boat. Australia had agreements in place with Indonesia. Their navy is willing to be involved and apparently the boats are generally safer. That being said there has been a lot of criticism. There is more spotlight on the UK, there will be more outrage and it will piss off the EU. It is not the same situation so the same solution is not appropriate.

Yes it did.
He entered illegally, was refused asylum twice, was convicted of a sex offence which should have prevented him remaining here and lied about being converted.
Which negates his asylum claim.

There was criticism

Now it’s bi partisan

The electorate are happy and no international laws have been broken

@MCOut

As unrest increases here it will become more difficult. It’s not as if there are no downsides to trafficking

That's the duty of the French.
Not the British.

UK wants to stop illegal immigrants entering the UK by pretending they're refugees.
Nothing wrong with that.

It's been more than 72 hours since the attack and 71 of those hours since the attacker was last seen at KingsX

Maybe his brother is right. Or maybe he's lying low

Well said. My own grandfather and his family whilst not a refugee had lost everything over due to both World wars when living in Germany as a child and from their home in Luxembourg where he was born. He was from a rich family but as his German mother married a dual national half English/half French man the Nazis and native Germans mostly hated them for that. He emigrated with family connections to France, Netherlands and settled in England where his older brother had moved with no benefits help. He brought his mother to London just before WW2 broke out and cared for her here. He was traumatised by his treatment in Germany and never forgot it but made his life in England. He recalls before WW2 broke out in Germany seeing a Jewish shoe shop which had the shoes of Germans piled high whilst Germany was then in a state of poverty and recession. He saw German children running barefoot. I am not excusing the treatment of the Jews at all, by the Nazis but people when backed into a corner find it very easy to support a xenophobic, cruel regime when they feel their voices aren’t heard.

people when backed into a corner find it very easy to support a xenophobic, cruel regime when they feel their voices aren’t heard

Only if they are that way inclined in the first place.

Sorry I can't remember the name of the Credulous Idiot poster, but the thread was only a few days ago.

I think the police thought that because of the injury he would be quickly spotted and therefore apprehended.

I hope there is a lot going on behind the scenes (IYSWIM) because despite urging public to report sightings, they don't seem to have a clue where he might be.

They don't even say where he got off the Victoria line (changing line or exiting at a station) so I guess there's a lot of people poring over a hell of a lot of CCTV. But aside from the injury, he doesn't really have any distinctive features and his clothes are really ordinary looking. So if there isn't a clear shot of his face, he might be hard to spot

I read somewhere that French warships sometimes escort the small boats into British waters. Maybe it's not true but if it's true then there must be French ships around.

What does Singapore do? It doesn't accept any asylum seekers. Perhaps nobody tries going there in the first place because they know they won't be accepted but if anyone does try presumably they're returned somewhere. Country of origin or another country? Japan does accept asylum seekers but rejects the majority of applicants so they must also have something arranged to return people somewhere.

Shocked they still haven't got him. They must be closing in surely.

If he was seen at Kings Cross. Presumably he got in a train. What were the passengers thinking? See it, say it, sort it ffs!!! It’s on repeat!

Some folk on this thread remind me of the dissemblers on old feminist threads years ago tying women in knots about trans to the extent the majority were all for intersectional bollocks which has led us here. Where is here? The state where you cannot say the bleeding obvious for fear of sounding rabid, racist or unkind. Well if this attempted murderous man is a product of misogyny, I do not care; we have enough of our own. It is not our job to rehome him just as it is not the job of women to lose their rights to facilitate the whims of men who deem themselves women. Enough already.

It seems the US deported a couple hundred to Afghanistan without an agreement as per Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Afghan_immigrants_from_the_United_States

Of course, that may have been when they operated a few military bases but I am sure they can now do it through Pakistan’s border. In fact, Pakistan and Iran are mass deporting Afghanis at this moment. Iirc Taliban is somewhat complaining that it is not very orderly

The last sighting of him was leaving Kings X via the southbound Victoria line at about 9pm on Wednesday evening so before the police photos were released and maybe even before fellow travellers knew about the attack

Maybe someone will remember seeing him on the tube and where he got off - police say they have had lots of phone calls

Ah that's good hopefully they have leads.

Yes it took time for the photo etc to be released and not everyone will have been aware etc.

Yes expect that there's much poring over CCTV and following up phone calls

If he changed at Victoria for the mainline station he could be with friends on the South Coast but equally could be lying unconscious under a bush in Green Park

It seems to have fallen off the front pages already - but then articles saying we haven't found him yet/we're still looking aren't headline news

There was one in the daily mail where they videoed a search of his flat.

I expect they have their media strategy worked out.

Same. So many excuses

But it doesn’t take long for people to get disillusioned and then swept up in the wave of hatred. See Nazi Germany. And don’t think it couldn’t happen in Germany again, as I’ve said before, they’re nervous about far right progression again, now.

Normal people get cynical about a country’s practices on immigration and more and more angry if their voices aren’t heard.

But as pp have said this is now a non news story. So Londoners and the UK/world got worked up about it and it’s now brushed under the carpet.

This, in the Times today, shocked me: Britain now has the highest number of recorded chemical attacks in the world, mostly on women, with a total of 710 in 2022 compared with 421 in 2021.

Copy cat behaviour will play a massive role - and the piss poor sentencing. I despair. It needs life and not a chance of a shorter sentence.