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Why is the USA now housing nuclear weapon in UK?

56 replies

sheetsoflux · 27/01/2024 11:53

It's all the official news sources, not anything 'Daily Fail' related

The USA removed these in the earlier 2000s because the threat was down.

Why are they bringing it back if all this talk with a war with Russia and conscription really is just fear mongering to get people comfortable with spending more £££ on defence? Sad

Why is the USA now housing nuclear weapon in UK?
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D20 · 27/01/2024 11:54

Political posturing.

Coconutcheese · 27/01/2024 11:55

Real life war games for the rich and powerful. Much like teenagers etc playing call of duty but worse !

sheetsoflux · 27/01/2024 12:08

It's scary.

And a very big statement just to make a point

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notimagain · 27/01/2024 12:33

FWIW/For context this doesn't suddenly make the UK an outlier in Europe.

Four European nations plus Turkey already have a nuclear sharing arrangement with the US and may or may not (nobody will say for certain) already have US weapons stored on their territory.

sheetsoflux · 27/01/2024 12:36

notimagain · 27/01/2024 12:33

FWIW/For context this doesn't suddenly make the UK an outlier in Europe.

Four European nations plus Turkey already have a nuclear sharing arrangement with the US and may or may not (nobody will say for certain) already have US weapons stored on their territory.

I just don't see why they're bothering

There's a good chance Trump gets back into The White Company in November

So he will withdraw his support from NATO, if rumours are true from his own people. Why then would we be keeping US weapons?

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Ifailed · 27/01/2024 12:45

Whether there are US nuclear weapons here or not, we are seen as an unsinkable aircraft carrier and as such would be on the front line in any nuclear war with Russia (or anyone else).

Watch the BBC documentary 'Threads' to get an idea of how it will go.

UndergroundPenguin · 27/01/2024 12:46

Because the nature of our Special Relationship is we let them leave their shit all over our country, so let ourselves be a target, also assist them whenever they ask, and get very little in return.

Needmorelego · 27/01/2024 12:52

This isn't new is it? The USAF rents RAF bases all over the country. They might be called RAF Whatever but they are American airbases for use by the American airforce.
🤔

WinterMorn · 27/01/2024 12:58

@sheetsoflux Trump cannot just pull out of NATO, it’s a bit more complex than that.

PerkingFaintly · 27/01/2024 13:02

There's also a good chance Trump won't get into the White House again, scatteroflight.

And even if he did, the US passed a law last year – with Republican and Democrat support – preventing a president from withdrawing from NATO without approval from the Senate or an Act of Congress.

https://thehill.com/homenews/4360407-congress-approves-bill-barring-president-withdrawing-nato/

Congress approves bill barring any president from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO

Congress has approved legislation that would prevent any president from withdrawing the United States from NATO without approval from the Senate or an Act of Congress.  The measure, spearheade…

https://thehill.com/homenews/4360407-congress-approves-bill-barring-president-withdrawing-nato

Araminta1003 · 27/01/2024 13:07

Two major countries US and U.K. are going into elections and that creates a security risk and emboldens certain leaders of other countries and they go for cyber attacks during this time, so you need this kind of deterrent to keep us all safe. Not that difficult to understand.
Trump won’t withdraw from NATO; he just wants us and the Germans etc to cough up cash towards it. Post pandemic we are in a precarious situation, the experts are telling us. Nobody listened pre Brexit, better listen to them this time.

PerkingFaintly · 27/01/2024 13:12

Uh, duh, scatteroflight sheetoflux

Sorry, my brain obviously mapped those onto each other.Shock

sheetsoflux · 27/01/2024 13:20

Watch the BBC documentary 'Threads' to get an idea of how it will go.

Surely that's just fear mongering?

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sheetsoflux · 27/01/2024 13:21

PerkingFaintly · 27/01/2024 13:12

Uh, duh, scatteroflight sheetoflux

Sorry, my brain obviously mapped those onto each other.Shock

Well that's a great username! Very funny your brain thought it it Grin

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WinterMorn · 27/01/2024 13:21

I am glad we have the nuclear deterrent and don’t have any problem with the US stationing weapons here.

notimagain · 27/01/2024 13:24

Needmorelego · 27/01/2024 12:52

This isn't new is it? The USAF rents RAF bases all over the country. They might be called RAF Whatever but they are American airbases for use by the American airforce.
🤔

Correct.

In fact the number of USAF used, RAF labeled bases is now way way down on what it was back in the proper Cold War days of the eighties.

PortentOfDoom · 27/01/2024 13:29

Bozo will find the first fridge to hide in🙄

Pliskin · 27/01/2024 13:33

because the public dont know what our intelligence services know, @sheetsoflux

mpsw · 27/01/2024 13:40

A revanchist Russia is a threat.

When the threat changes, then the defensive stance changes.

And Trump. The more that's in place now, the longer it will take for him to undo it all

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 27/01/2024 13:43

“because the public dont know what our intelligence services know”

I think we ALL know that perpetual wars (and the industrial engine they feed) oil our failing economic system and line the pockets of a selected few. Perpetual war is a goal for our global leaders. We produce nothing but weapons.

Pliskin · 27/01/2024 13:54

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 27/01/2024 13:43

“because the public dont know what our intelligence services know”

I think we ALL know that perpetual wars (and the industrial engine they feed) oil our failing economic system and line the pockets of a selected few. Perpetual war is a goal for our global leaders. We produce nothing but weapons.

personally we always will need the Military, when people think and look at the large star chart of the galaxies, who knows what is in those galaxies, they are hardly likely to listen to humanity if we just wave a flag and go peace, a roman solider said to prepare for peace is be ready for war,

EasternStandard · 27/01/2024 13:55

mpsw · 27/01/2024 13:40

A revanchist Russia is a threat.

When the threat changes, then the defensive stance changes.

And Trump. The more that's in place now, the longer it will take for him to undo it all

Yep

IClaudine · 27/01/2024 14:04

Why so many fear mongering threads over the last few days? War, conscription and nuclear weapons. Often started by people new to mumsnet or newly name changed.

It is almost as though it is a distraction technique...

WinterMorn · 27/01/2024 14:37

@IClaudine OP has got at least one other thread relative to nuclear weapons going on, and I have reported her.

Swipe left for the next trending thread