Why is the USA now housing nuclear weapon in UK?

[sheetsoflux]

It's all the official news sources, not anything 'Daily Fail' related

The USA removed these in the earlier 2000s because the threat was down.

Why are they bringing it back if all this talk with a war with Russia and conscription really is just fear mongering to get people comfortable with spending more £££ on defence?

“Why so many fear mongering threads over the last few days? War, conscription and nuclear weapons. Often started by people new to mumsnet or newly name changed.

It is almost as though it is a distraction technique...”

Yes the Tories are probably incentivised to take us into all our war as that would be the only thing that would save them in the next election. However, I choose to believe that they would put us all and our country above party politics. And I chose to listen to the experts who are largely apolitical and do not care which party gets into power really. They just need funding and the fact of the matter is, we all know the world is currently unsafe. All the experts were predicting this would happen post pandemic and it has. When you have a whole lot of authoritarian leaders who are old and losing sway at home they go out and create havoc. Oldest trick in the book and the easiest to predict. We have no choice but to mount a deterrent.

The US has retained 13 airbases in the UK including Mildenhall, Welford and Menwith Hill .

I'd be more surprised if there weren't nuclear weapons here.

However, I choose to believe that they would put us all and our country above party politics

I don't.

These types of threads always contain people who "remember" protect and survive booklets being pushed through their door in the 70s - something which never happened (unless you happened it live on the Isle of Mann who issued a similar publication to all)

I have some lovely pjs from the white company and now all I have in my mind is trump wearing similar 😂😂😂

@sheetsoflux why have you started two threads today about nuclear war?

@Coconutcheese he'd look quite catching in silk pyjamas and white company robe

I imagine he's the type to neatly fold out a piece of quilt before jumping into the neatly made bed 😂

It's on my mind, and I have a bit of time to speak about it. Sometimes it's good to get things off your chest and down on a forum so people can challenge ideas and bring forward different opinions

Why else?

You could buy a copy, I think.

Read the Swedish leaflet which was mentioned on the conscription thread...food for thought.

@IClaudine Yes, you could from 1980 - price 50p! Not many sold. A copy produced before that is actually quite valuable as they were only issues to central and local government emergency planners.

It's remarkable how many people think they got it through their door, or saw the short advice film on TV - I think's its often people have seen these things happening in "threads" and "the war game"

Some councils did issue a leaflet showing how destructive nuclear weapons are - it was for two reasons usually 1.) They were an "anti-nuclear" council 2.) They did not want to spend money on the production of the statutory emergency plans they were compelled to have by central government and/or participate in exercises (i.e why should we waste the rate payers money on nuclear planning in X area - it's pointless!)

@Flapjacker48 was the advert in cinemas? I am sure I remember seeing something, but you could be right that it is a false memory. I do remember feeling very scared for a while in the early 80s that nuclear war was going to happen and went on lots of demos against nuclear weapons.

@IClaudine No - the only time the little short films about what to do pre/post attack were seen by the general public was very briefly during a BBC panorama programme in the early 80s. They were planned to be used in last couple of days before a nuclear attack before TV was turned off! (All nuclear planning relied on there being a "transition to war" period of days (if not weeks) and then a short period of conventional and tactical nuclear exchanges before a strategic exchange)

All protect and survive films available on youtube now of course!

This is Trump. He will look to remove checks and balances. So if he gets in don't count on these safeguards holding.

@mnhq is there a way of collating these threads in a new nuclear section which people can then hide?

I’m not sure they get tags

Maybe start a thread in site stuff, they read that

Might be worth mentioning though that if we're into numbers you can't equate "airbases" with airfields available for USAF use....

For example two of the airbases you've listed don't have useable runways, or even any runway at all.

14 years of Tory madness. I've never felt so politically homeless.

Willy waving.

I reckon it would suit conservatives to get us scared to the max to unite the country and lead them to the election victory.

Ditto US I expect.

If a war is wanted by higher ups how do you think the country would react if an atom bomb goes off somewhere in NATO territory blamed on Russia to cause a war. I wouldn’t put it past them tbh but if you saw on news “atom bomb detonated in Sweden” would it change your opinion on going to war. Just curious

Daddy Chill.

I now have a Daddy Cool earworm! 😆

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This is very good news. It makes Britain & Europe safer for two main reasons :

1, It indicates that the United States remains fully committed to NATO and to mutual defence.

2, Deterrence works. We know that, because those of us who lived through it remember how it worked during the Cold War. If Putin knows that the consequences of attacking us are that his country, his society, his culture, his family and he himself will be completely obliterated, he won’t attack us.