We are being primed

[Mambo19866]

Story after story now of conscription being needed. I was thoroughly convinced that this is just scaremongering but the number of senior figures coming out again today warning us to prepare it really feels like they are getting us used to the idea. Also in the papers today the US is moving some of its nuclear stockpile to the UK. Getting bit nervous now I have to admit.

This is just a thread to say how crap young people are. Along with calls for national service from people the majority of whom would’ve been too young for any type of conscription.

I've not read the whole thread yet but up to now I can't believe what I'm reading.

This is just a thread to say how crap young people are. Along with calls for national service from people the majority of whom would’ve been too young for any type of conscription.

The MNs average age is much older then we are led to believe clearly. Weird when there is also Gransnet. Maybe we need a kidsnet, youthsnet?

If there is a third World War, it won't be fought in the way other World Wars have been. As I said, we don't live in that kind of world now.

Putin wouldn't bother invading us, why would he? He might nuke us, though. Or bring down our IT systems (although all our tech savvy young people would be invaluable in fighting off that sort of attack).

@fonfusedm Im 60 and have ya kids. I find young people not much different from when I was young tbh-just have access to different technology. Some people on here have obviously forgotten ever being young.

@MrsRachelDanvers I think a lot are bored & like to be contrary.

Ukraine shows it can be combat

And we are in NATO so part of a defence pact

Hmm it is all starting to feel very pre-lockdown where we had endless threads scoffing and saying it would never happen.

I saw your heading and I immediately thought war. Yes I agree. Being told it's possible. Nobody can use nuclear weapons or the lot of us will be wiped out.

Thank you. I'm already prepared, then, though probably not as well as I should be. I think with water in particular it is too easy to underestimate how much is needed for survival, never mind health.

The family are always laughing at me for having a "seige mentality" - my cupboards are full of long life foods. I was (seriously) very hungry as a child and I can't rest unless there's plenty there.

It was mainly cooking sources I was wondering about. As a "townie" we don't have alternatives to gas/electric supplies.

All joking aside I do think the idea that all future combat will be nukes is wrong. Look at the lone wolf terror attacks, Ukraine, etc training in a bit of hand to hand combat is probably no bad thing.

Exactly absolutely daft some of the comments on here. And even if someone was morally OK with killing they may not want to bother for a country which has made things massively hard for young people who don’t come from money.

Simple things anyone can do might be keeping bottles of water and having rainwater butts so you still have clean drinking water and can flush the toilets in your home, keeping a stock of basic tinned foods, keeping some cash in your home in the event that cards can't be used.

I think the above is fine for a power shortage, severe weather, etc in reality how helpful is it in an actual war situation. If soldiers or nukes are approaching does food tins really matter?

However I do think if you wanted your name in the headlines as a professor or whatever, piping up to back what the general said is a good way to do it currently

Putin does not have enough soldiers to take on the rest of the world. There may be some combat in a wider war, but there will be other forms of aggression.

@IClaudine china does though.

The issue may be if Trump withdraws funding

It’s not a given but I would prefer NATO consider that possibility

60% of British men are overweight or obese, what do you think the army would do with them?

This is just about pressure for more spending.

Well said.

@TheMoth haven’t read the whole thread yet but your post has given me a good laugh 😂.

All the papers are reporting today that the US is going to store nuclear bombs on UK soil for the first time in 15 years because of the threat of Russia invading NATO allies like Finland and Sweden. While that's obviously a game over scenario, I don't think the conscription threat is the kite flier so many on this thread thinks it is.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/jan/26/us-planning-to-station-nuclear-weapons-in-uk-amid-threat-from-russia-report

But do you expect other people to defend you?

And if they don’t and you are attacked what then?

You think all the conscripted Ukraine men that the British Army helped train for weeks on end were as fit as fiddles when they started?

So why are the UK forces in such a poor state that conscription is even on the table? Despite all the bluster from Tory politicians, UK defence spending as a % of GDP has declined since the conservatives came to power in 2011. Remember this when it comes to casting your vote at the next election.

Yes some of the bashing of young people here by PP's is truly amazing. Perhaps if they are so concerned about how bad they allegedly are, maybe they should look at their own parenting skills first