Absolutely appalled by Kenneth Eugene Smith's execution

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Appalled is too soft a word. I feel physically sick and angry.

What a sick world we live in.

I am against the death penalty. One person wrongly convicted and sentenced to death is too many. This particular case sounds like torture, and to use what the Nazis used on millions, its just disturbing on so many levels.

I keep thinking about it. But what can we do? I'm in UK, and expect any activism will be happening in US.

What will happen to the state of Alabama? Surely something must be done. This was not human.

That's you, and you have a right to your opinion

That doesn't mean you can decide that everyone else must feel absolutely the same as you

Plenty of people are against the death penalty even if its their relatives that have been murdered

It's not that difficult to understand that

He requested that method.
And took 22 minutes to die...
He should feel quite lucky his request was honoured...
The woman's family had no say in his actions. They have suffered more than 22 minutes..

He bludgeoned a woman to death.
He deserved to be bludgeoned to death. Now that would be justice.

How could he know that, 30+ years later, he would be the victim of a badly botched nightmare execution failure, followed by being killed by a method condemned by the UN as torture?

Quite.

All the mumsnetters thinking this was ok

Like to see you all volunteer to murder him

Because it was torturous and inhumane.

I’m surprised you asked the question.

It's not about feeling sorry for him

It's about not being comfortable with state sanctioned torture

It's got nothing to do with him and who he is as a man and everything to do with who we are as a society (or who people are in the US as a society) and what we expect people who work in prisons to have to deal with

In a job role with a pension most certainly

No that would be revenge. Justice and revenge are not the same thing

I don't doubt many hundreds would be fine to do it!

I’m against the death penalty for the simple reason that sometimes there are miscarriages of justice and it turns out they got the wrong person. Well, there’s no going back from the death penalty…
However, some countries do have it, and it is what it is, but losing your life should be the punishment, rather than the manner of execution, which should be as swift and pain free as possible. As has been mentioned upthread, the guillotine would fit the bill, with the least chance of failing, I would have thought.

Nothing wrong with the death penalty if its absolutely beyond reasonable doubt. What have people like Fred West, Peter Sutcliffe etc done to deserve to live?

Method and time held on death row - an entirely different matter.

Easier said than done I think

I see another MN thread about the death penalty has brought out all the torture porn fetishists ready to claim they are happy to kill people for money, claiming it makes them different to the man who was put to death for killing people for money...

Of course they are descending to his standards, and below them. They are saying "It is wrong to kill" yet they are killing someone. Not only that, they are doing it by a method condemned as torture after a previous horrendous failed attempt.

Your false imprisonment analogy self-evidently doesn't work. The clue is in the word "false".

You have heard of "running about like a headless chicken" ? There are typically a lot of movements after death, you might think an animal was struggling, but it is brain dead, even possibly headless. humans too can move a lot in the time after death. I have seen people raise and cross their arms while I have been laying them out, and also they make vocal noises sometimes too. After being certified dead. I have heard these movements called "anoxic discharges" I am not sure what that means.

Yes I am. But how can anyone not want to watch someone get punished after killing a loved one. And please don't patronise me.

Do you want him to stay in prison, or be rehabilitated and freed? Perhaps given a new identity so he can live a nice life… 🙄

So what? That post was in response to the claim that he knew what was going to happen. How could he know that?

Exactly!!

Keyboard warriors though....

Well I would be different from a murderer if I volunteered to be the executioner of such a criminal - I'd do it for free.

But I would insist on the execution being swift, efficient and as painless as possible. So guillotine as I proposed previously.

You started the patronising by informing everyone who is against the death penalty that they wouldn't be against it if it was their loved one who was killed as if they weren't capable of knowing their own mind so you had to do it for them

But how can anyone not want to watch someone get punished after killing a loved one.

There is a wide scale between punished and tortured and killed. If you fall down on the side of tortured and killed then that's your choice. But I would never, regardless of circumstance think that the death penalty, especially using a technique like this, was an appropriate punishment

It’s inhumane and barbaric, but so is any state sanctioned murder. I’m opposed to the death penalty in any form, regardless of the crime.

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Nobody has said he should be freed?? What an odd little post!