Absolutely appalled by Kenneth Eugene Smith's execution

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Appalled is too soft a word. I feel physically sick and angry.

What a sick world we live in.

I am against the death penalty. One person wrongly convicted and sentenced to death is too many. This particular case sounds like torture, and to use what the Nazis used on millions, its just disturbing on so many levels.

I keep thinking about it. But what can we do? I'm in UK, and expect any activism will be happening in US.

What will happen to the state of Alabama? Surely something must be done. This was not human.

Why are you upset by this particular one. They are all awful.
The electric chair, injecting drugs that may or may not burn their way into their system while they are still conscious.
Several countries practice absolutely painless euthanasia on terminal patients yet they use completely untested and barbaric methods to execute prisoners. Why are they not euthanising them with no pain like Dignitas or your local vet
This is the question we should all be asking as well as the question - mental torture from being on death row for 36 years. Either execute them straight after trial or not at all.

I would happily press the button (or whatever) and not flinch

You need help. I feel sorry for you.

@Naptrappedmummy Absolutely agree. It’s not until you have someone on “the inside” (if you like) that you realise the level of sheer violence these people are capable of, a lot of them because they see no value in human life; not even their own x

Including executing your own child? Well if the shoe fits and all that you would be quite happy pushing the button on your own child.

I agree.
Imagine if the tables were turned and it was their own flesh and blood, their own child sitting in the chair

@1975wasthebest Do I? You try witnessing a family broken by a senseless murder. You have no idea so don’t speak to me like that. What good did “do-gooders” like you ever do

There is another thread which sets out the issues, pharmacutial companies won’t sell the drugs, no physician will be there to administer (against the Hippocratic oath) and the mental toll of being responsible for the death of another being is huge. No one should flippantly say they could do it because the toll it takes is massive

It's precisely the people who say they would queue up to be executioners, do it without pay, and wouldn't flinch, who shouldn't do it. It's noticeable that all these bloodthirsty types aren't volunteering to be the prison warders taking the accused to his death, attaching the electrodes or putting the needles in, clearing up afterwards. That's because they can only contemplate it if they are distant from the dying person.

Psychopaths come from all walks of life, this thread is filled with them willing to push the button.

@Mouse82 I’ve added my experience and my thoughts. I’m adding no more.x

I was thinking about this recently so how do people get round being euthanased at Dignitas, doctors must have prescribed the drugs there.

You seem like a really angry individual, I wish you all the best in your life. And I mean that sincerely.

I thought the oath was "do no harm" not "don't kill"?

I can understand how allowing someone very ill, in a lot of pain etc, who isn't far from death, to die with dignity might be considered by some doctors to fall under the do no harm part of the oath

No mother believes that their child will kill, and yet all murderers have mothers…

It's so ridiculous to say you'd happily carry out an execution. Unless you're an absolute psychopath, the truth is it's probably incredibly difficult mentally. I don't think any of us have the right to take someone's life, even if they're evil killers. We shouldn't lower ourselves to their level. Some people on this thread sound quite deranged to be honest.

@dimllaishebiaith I agree. There are times when doing nothing is causing more harm than doing something.

If there's going to be harm either way then do the thing that causes the least harm / does the most good / relieves the most pain.

Although was first do no harm ever even actually part of the pledge? Also, is it even the Hippocratic oath now? Or a more modern version?

Not that it matters really. It's best to do something where the primary purpose is to help the patient even if there is another effect. Eg relieving the pain of a person with terminal cancer even if the dose required shortens their life by days or weeks. Better that that them in agony, praying for death.

As abhorrent as the Nottingham killings were you clearly have no understanding of severe s mental.illness such as psychosis.

I would have more respect for people who say they would be willing to be an executioner because they believe the death sentence is right, and they understand that it will be traumatic and probably impact them for the rest of their lives but they are willing to undergo that because they think its the best thing for society.

I wouldn't agree with them, but I would respect them for their opinion.

Its much harder to respect those on this thread who are making it out that it would be in any way appropriate to allow grieving family members to go through that trauma, or that they would be able to do it and come through it unscathed.

I bet there wouldn't be its easy to make statements like that when there's no chance you will ever be in a position to execute someone

I don’t think there is a way to kill someone that won’t either cause them suffering or leave a bloody mess for someone else to clear up (both, in the case of the electric chair). I am sure that collecting the remains of an executed prisoner is a job of responsibility. I expect that whenever an execution cell is used, it gets jet-washed afterwards - partly to stop those working in the prison from getting sick.

I don’t think there is a way to kill someone that won’t either cause them suffering or leave a bloody mess for someone else to clear up

I completely agree. It's one of the reasons I am against the death sentence.

It's just a wierd reason to use to justify making the process bloodier and messier. "Oh the prison officers already suffer and have to clean up mess so why not make them pick up severed heads, how much worse can it be?"

Andrew Malkinson.

For every ten people on death row one is thought to be innocent.

I doubt that as a terrified teenager you've sat in a police cell and been told "we don't care whether you did it or not, we're going to fuckin get you for it"?

Why would you want anyone to suffer? You're a psychopath.

Good, a quick death would be too good for someone who executed an innocent person and left two children without a mother