Where do the people from the dinghies go?

[FreyaFromTheFens]

When they jump off the boat where do they go? Have they been given prior instructions of the direction to head or do they just run anywhere and what then? Hide out for a while?

No one in authority is there to direct them to processing buildings are they?

I just can't imagine the numbers of them that are getting here each month all having somewhere to go straight away. If you live where this happens what's it like and do you feel safe?

People think doctors will never need to be refugees? Are people really this ignorant?

@LakeTiticaca

Plus our legal system. The wheels turn slowly and appeals last for years .

I'm starting to think that one way to stop it would be for the UK to sell visas with stringent conditions to them and cut out the roll of the dinghy trade.

Because it’s still better than where they came from? I mean you’re still here - it can’t be that bad…

@BobDylansMuse

I was born here . I just asked a perfectly reasonable question. Plus why risk your life again via a treacherous channel crossing when then there are other safe equally prosperous countries they can apply for asylum in once they have reached Europe ?

Maybe because you have family or friends in the UK who might help you through the terrifying prospect of starting life all over again in a foreign country?

Maybe because you speak some English and figure that it might be easier to rebuild your life in a country where you have that little bit of a head start?

@notknowledgeable so you're saying that people smugglers hang out at the airport for this very reason? So when someone arrives with no money, no passport, virtually no clothes on, what happens then? You say they ask their family for money but presumably that's a lot of money to be found quite quickly?

I am not just believing you, just asking a question.

Oh for gods sake

Loads of people DO stay in Europe, and generally European countries take a lot more refugees than we do.

People carry on to here for a variety of reasons - often it’s that they know of someone already here who’s doing ok.

Humans move in order to better themselves. It’s one of the things we do. Remember Norman Tebbit saying ‘my father got on his bike and looked for work’? (Or are you too young? Google him)

Im not saying we shouldn’t attempt to control immigration. We could bring in ID cards which might help, but I reckon a lot of the U.K. population would be against that.

Small boat arrivals are 3 in every 1000 immigrants. So if you’re that worried, why not look at why the U.K. is letting in the other 99.7%. Sunak keeps deflecting from that with his Stop the Boats rhetoric, the cynical politician that he is.

They are told where to go by the people smugglers. They will have been given the contact details of the bent solicitors who create false asylum stories for them. Very few get sent back. They end up working in the black economy and living in squalid overcrowded accommodation. Yet they still think this is a better option than staying in the country of their birth.
We are witnessing mass migration of young men from North Africa into Europe. Not only does this undermine and destabilise our own communities it means that the countries of origin are losing fit young men of working age who could make a real difference to the economy of those countries.
They must be sent back for the good of everyone including themselves

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It's easier to disappear into existing communities in this country than others as we have no formal identity card system. Access to health care and education is denied in some countries without official papers. Not so here.

It doesn't stop many of them being exploited though once here. If your neighbour's building labourers don't understand a simple question in English and work all hours God sends, maybe you should wonder how much choice they have and what about their living conditions.Was this what they hoped for, or are they having to 'pay back' money for ever to rich gangmasters?

Just want to highlight

1- most if those people will be closing asylum as is their rights (and about 70% of them do get asylum so they are not ‘lying’ about feeing war etc….). The ONLY way to claim asylum is to enter a country wo a visa. If you come as a tourist, you can’t.
So what they are doing isn’t illegal.

2- the government has been offered many times the opportunity to create a desk in France where all asylum claims could be processed. This would ‘stop the boats’. But the government refused. Why?!?

3- the U.K. is taking on a staggering low number is immigrants and asylum seekers. They are provided with food and accommodation there too. Don’t be fooled into thinking the situation here is so amazing that everyone wants to come here. It’s not true.

Access to health care and education is denied in some countries without official papers. Not so here.

It is now.
Just ask the many EU citizens living here, with their Settled status who have had to prove they can receive care at a doctor/hosp.

Indeed. I'm not sure about access to education, if I'm honest, but access to NHS healthcare certainly isn't a given.

A lot of undocumented migrants are too scared to access healthcare in any case... they need to stay under the radar and will therefore avoid making contact with anything even vaguely "official".

Because they're lied to.

That sounds like just a swimmer who got into a bit of trouble to me.

@JustExistingNotLiving
Our (large, multi ethnic, inner city) GP surgery has a notice stating anyone can access healthcare there.They do have a residence boundary and, obviously, I don't know what questions are asked.

I imagine the reality is that sick people aren't turned away.

Ha! More than likely, yes!

I wish our GPS locally were like that! Almost impossible to get an appointment. And I live in an overwhelming white British area, before anyone tries to blame immigration. Access sounds much better in the high immigration areas.

The BBC was following the progress of a family in Syria a couple of years ago who were heading to Calais. They had family resident in the UK. This will apply to a percentage.

Because they know Britain is a soft touch. The only way to stop it is to stop being such a soft touch

Can you outline the evidence that informs your view that migrants choose to come to the UK because they perceive it as a "soft touch"?

@BobDylansMuse

I've got no problem with genuine asylum seekers . But I think the majority of Boat incomers just economic migrants. I don't blame them at all. People will exploit loopholes if they are put on a plate for them . I actually blame this Government for letting this happen. I also despise far right groups that rock up outside the migrants accommodation asking questions. They should direct their anger at the Government. But they are clogging up the system for genuine Asylum Seeker's that need our help . If I wanted to go to Australia to get a better life as an Economic Migrant I would have to jump through hoops to get in .

@LakeTiticaca

I think the attraction is our legal system. It is very hard to get rid of them once the legal wheels start turning.