If you're northern do you find southeners a bit patronising sometimes?!

[doyouknowwhatimean]

NC for this as a bit of a rant! Just had to get it off my chest as have met someone recently who is a prime example of what I mean and I find it reallty annoying.

Just to explain I don't mean ALL southeners! So don't say they're not all like that - I know! Lots of my best friends are southern ;-) There's just a certain type.

I'm born and bred Yorkshire. Sometimes I meet people from the south who seem to think we all live in some kind of Hovis advert or were born down a pit. They think all out houses cost £2.50 and we've never heard of flat whites. I don't have an accent particulaly but sometimes when I say where I'm from I can see the perception changes.

A (fairly senior) work mate in London asked me if I was from a pit village (he just assumed I was as I'm northern). DHs grandfather asked me if I had ever heard of Waitrose. My MiL thinks we have lots of spare income because we pay "Northern Prices".

Friend of a friend I met recently was saying she could buy half of Manchester for the price of her 4 bed in the home counties. She seemed surprised I went to private school as if they don't exist north of the Watford Gap.

I just find it really annoying!!! There is a ton of deprevation in Yorkshire (thanks Tories!) but also in London and across the SE too. There's also culture and nice areas in most parts of the UK.

I’m from Glasgow, so Scottish rather than northern.

but this stuff totally winds me up- everytime I say I’m from Glasgow, people regale me of stories of visiting in the 80’s and seeing burnt out cars everywhere 🙄. I was around in the 80’s and don’t recall ever seeing any burnt out cars!

They assume that everyone is poor and talk about ‘tenements’ as a synonym for ‘slum’- when in reality a tenement in the west end will rival London zone 2 prices.

everyone makes jokes about the possibility that I may resort to violence at any given time.

and don’t get me started on deep fried Mars bars 😬

Not so much patronising as smug.
But I accept that I'm a bit Southist so I let it go.
They lack carbs and can't help pronouncing scone incorrectly.

@doyouknowwhatimean Sounds exactly like the way they view us Welsh! I’m sure we’re seen as the very bottom of the pile, or even worse, they think we’re a part of England 🤦🏼‍♀️🤣

I used to just eye roll at the comments about coronation street and flat caps.

I escaped back up north though so don't hear it now.

I get it OP. I enjoy the difference between telling southerners that we're visiting "from Scotland" vs "from Edinburgh" (both true). The From Scotland gets jokes about being stingy and attempts at the accent, the From Edinburgh gets oh how lovely I just adore the little streets.

But at the same time, I think everyone has stereotypes about everyone else, they mirror each other. You're either gruff / soft, rich / poor, uncultured / snobby. No winners in this game.

I imagine it’s annoying but as a southerner married into a ‘Yorkshire born & bred’ family, I can tell you it works both ways. My parents were working class & my in laws are definitely middle/upper middle class, something the latter can’t quite get their heads round, so it’s not always southerners peddling outdated stereotypes.

Ha, I'm English and now living in Scotland. It annoys me that they automatically assume I love the Royals and vote Tory 🤣 and try to wind me up by dlagging them off. Fill your boots love.
I definitely don't conflate Southerners with posh 😄

Not in recent years.
Way back in the miners strike days, my public school educated brother got a lot of sympathy expressed for how tough it must be for his family 😂

I don’t usually get the opportunity to post something related to my username…😄

I don't think people mean to be unkind. They think they are funny and are maybe a bit ignorant. A bit like making jokes and assumptions about Essex girls.

Yes I'm northern but live in the south and am surprised by the assumptions about what my life must have been like growing up.

I'm northern (North Yorkshire with family in Sunderland) but moved to the south east when I was 16. I got mocked for my accent so eventually adopted some semblance of RP (still pronounce past, bath, last Proper though). I've heard it all over the years. People doing impressions of 'thick' or 'simple' people with northern accents, thinking the north is this homogenous grimy pit filled with endless rain and misery, that everyone in Yorkshire owns a whippet and wears a flat cap, thinking North Yorkshire is in the Midlands (I've lost count of the number of people who don't know where the North is), that houses there cost 50p and a loaf of Hovis, people claiming not to understand me when I'm talking about having a bath or something in the past, jokes about mining... When I took my driving test 16 years ago and hadn't quite shaken my accent, the examiner said 'Where are you from?' 'North Yorkshire' I said. 'Well, somebody has to be' was his miserable response, and the bastard failed me because I was apparently too far from the kerb when reversing round a corner.

Having said that, when I lived in the north I did see people mocking southern people's accents and jokes about the queen, so I guess it cuts both ways. Also, when I went to the Scottish Highlands, I was mocked for my now-southern accent and treated with disdain by many. I was on my own and have never felt so discriminated against to be honest.

I'm happy in the SE but I miss the Yorkshire countryside and NE coast soooo much. Nothing else comes close, for me.

I'm born and bred in the North and still living here, I had a Southern boyfriend until recently but never experienced any piss-taking. If there's any derision it's from our neighbour town that's a bit more upmarket.
As for accents, I think people in general are just fascinated and like to try them out. I don't think there's any hostility attached, and let them think you come from a pit village; does it really matter?
I know it's hardly relevant, but a colleague came back from visiting her family (who had moved to Yorkshire) and ever since she's been back she's developed an ultra strong Yorkshire accent, she's been talking like this for a few weeks now.

Northerners who think Londoners are the worst should be a Cockney opening their mouth in a Nottinghamshire mining village or a dingy Manc pub. Been told to "fuck off home to the Queen" and other delightful things many times in the north. Even funnier as I'm from East London. Ain't no Queens taking their chances over this side of London.

@Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong oh my god totally. And they don't realise how utterly ridiculous they sound

Nottinghamshire isn’t the north. I think that they hate everyone. I’m a scouser so we’re used to being looked down on by most of the country, but I’ve never experienced hostility anywhere like I have in Nottingham.

Never mind being from the North or South of England what about the rest of us from Scotland Wales or heaven forbid Northern Ireland! In my experience (I lived in the Midlands for 8 years) NI didn't exist. It was always Ireland. I'm proud to be from NI and usually corrected them.

I’m from the North East too and live in the South and people often assume I must be working class and are surprised to learn that I’m the third generation in my family to have been to university. It’s funny because when I was at school I was always made fun of for being ‘posh’.

@Menomeno as an ex Mansfield girl I have a bit of a downer on the whole area-thing is it has a lot going for it-cheap and varied housing- Derbyshire countryside on doorstep, Sherwood Forest on doorstep , Nottingham itself isn't unattractive in parts and has a great uni- - but the thing I struggle with is the male aggression and chip on the shoulder attitudes , especially if you speak even slightly the queens English or have done ok for yourself- didn't suprise me they voted for Brexit and wazzocks like Lee Anderson. It's a predominantly male thing - lots of the women are really ok

Nottinghamshire is East Midlands,not northern.

@DerekFaker if they say "bath" and "path" it's northern 😂

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There, there dear please don't worry about it 😬

I’m ‘born and bred Yorkshire’ too and honestly think it’s largely a shithole. Very lovely parts in the Dales obviously but the actual major towns and cities are horrendous. A lot of crime and deprivation.

A pie barm has nothing on smack barm pea wet.