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If you're northern do you find southeners a bit patronising sometimes?!

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doyouknowwhatimean · 17/01/2024 13:51

NC for this as a bit of a rant! Just had to get it off my chest as have met someone recently who is a prime example of what I mean and I find it reallty annoying.

Just to explain I don't mean ALL southeners! So don't say they're not all like that - I know! Lots of my best friends are southern ;-) There's just a certain type.

I'm born and bred Yorkshire. Sometimes I meet people from the south who seem to think we all live in some kind of Hovis advert or were born down a pit. They think all out houses cost £2.50 and we've never heard of flat whites. I don't have an accent particulaly but sometimes when I say where I'm from I can see the perception changes.

A (fairly senior) work mate in London asked me if I was from a pit village (he just assumed I was as I'm northern). DHs grandfather asked me if I had ever heard of Waitrose. My MiL thinks we have lots of spare income because we pay "Northern Prices".

Friend of a friend I met recently was saying she could buy half of Manchester for the price of her 4 bed in the home counties. She seemed surprised I went to private school as if they don't exist north of the Watford Gap.

I just find it really annoying!!! There is a ton of deprevation in Yorkshire (thanks Tories!) but also in London and across the SE too. There's also culture and nice areas in most parts of the UK.

OP posts:
Moier · 17/01/2024 17:39

Yes I'm from Yorkshire...
They personally think l know Jane Mcdonald ..when l say I'm in the same City..
Yes went to same school but I'm older.
Often asked where my whippet is.
Did l grow up on bread and dripping .
Do l go out in winter without my coat.
Did l play on the coal slags.
I try to tell them an hour away and I'm in the stunning Yorkshire Dales.
An hour and half and I'm in picturesque Whitby.
45 mins and I'm in historical city of York.

FizzyStream · 17/01/2024 17:42

We have fun with this in our house as I'm from Cheshire so have what some consider a "posh" mildly northern accent whereas DH spent most of his formative years in the south and worked in London for 10 years so has a mildly London accent.

We take the mick out of each others accents and different words / culture ie he had never heard the word mither before I met him and I've never seen, never mind eaten, a saveloy.

We also have competitions to get the kids to pronounce things the way we say them. I'm winning because we live in Greater Manchester and they're more northern than I am 😂

I think the north do tend to get fed up of the London centric media and weather reporting though. I certainly do. And I have also had my fair share, as has DH, of the "living in the grim up north, poor you" comments.

Saschka · 17/01/2024 17:48

Naptrappedmummy · 17/01/2024 14:39

I think that’s a bit harsh but SOME of them (not all OP 😉) do seem to think they’re somehow more authentic, and more salt-of-the-earth, than anyone else because they’re ‘so Yorkshire’. And it’s all they ever talk about.

I’ve also met people from Sussex who feel like that though! Harping on about “we wunt be druv” like being mulish is a superpower, as well as their entire personality.

I won’t even start on Men of Kent and Kentish Men. Honestly, if your personality and self-worth is entirely based on where you happened to be born, you probably need some hobbies.

Gettingittogether · 17/01/2024 17:56

I think it's true.

But be honest, 100% truly honest with yourself - up North we are 1000 times worse for taking the piss out of Southerners. We are savage about it

I have links to the North East, North West, Yorkshire and Scotland and it's all the same. We are brutal towards and about Southerners.

My DC are Southern - ah the ribbing they get from family 'don't teach you proper football down South do they?', 'when you gonna move up here so we can teach you about real music' etc etc. I'm Northern but I give my kids come back lines to use on them and it's funny. They get into the spirit of it.

I think it goes both ways and if just part of UK culture - North Vs South. England Vs Scotland, Liverpool Vs Manchester. North Vs South Manchester.

I feel like culturally British people can't not have some sort of imagined beef with ourselves but I always took it to be mostly banter even if sometimes it can sting! Which I appreciate for you, it has. I've been on the receiving end of comments that have gone a bit too far. But I've also seen comments go too far up North.

So I'd say it's fairly equal - in my experience anyway.

Naptrappedmummy · 17/01/2024 18:18

Who the fuck is Jane McDonald?

Sectorone · 17/01/2024 18:21

Naptrappedmummy · 17/01/2024 18:18

Who the fuck is Jane McDonald?

Oh, you are in for a treat, here’s a YouTube link to a great clip -

JANE MCDONALD Cave Clip

https://youtu.be/o2DWx7tR1KA?si=LR2SbVO9HTPjcM90

Atethehalloweenchocs · 17/01/2024 18:26

I also find it funny when people treat me like an uncultured hick because I live in a small rural town in the Midlands. I was born in London, lived there and in other cities around the world for most of my life, just happen to be in a small country town now. But to speak to people you would think I have never read a book or been to the theatre in my life.

doyouknowwhatimean · 17/01/2024 18:38

Some of the stuff being referenced above is humour - I have no problem with this as love to take the piss myself and people are usually affectionate with it. Fine if it's meant the right way - my Grandad was a miner and I do stop the remote at Channel 5 if it's Jane MacDonald on a cruise.

It's the non joking total assuption that if you live up north you can't be educated / successful / cultured that starts to grate.

OP posts:
SingingSands · 17/01/2024 18:43

I moved to Yorkshire 25 years ago and my mum always goes on about us living "down south".

So just to add another POV: there is a "north" further north than Yorkshire 😄

LivingDeadGirlUK · 17/01/2024 19:03

HalfasleepChrisintheMorning · 17/01/2024 17:05

What is this pie shoved in a bread roll?
Yorkshire lass and proud of it, never heard of this!

Other side of the Pennines, sorry!

LivingDeadGirlUK · 17/01/2024 19:03

Pie barm is lush though!

Goldenbear · 17/01/2024 20:00

Saschka · 17/01/2024 17:48

I’ve also met people from Sussex who feel like that though! Harping on about “we wunt be druv” like being mulish is a superpower, as well as their entire personality.

I won’t even start on Men of Kent and Kentish Men. Honestly, if your personality and self-worth is entirely based on where you happened to be born, you probably need some hobbies.

Sussex? Which part?

Saschka · 17/01/2024 20:07

Goldenbear · 17/01/2024 20:00

Sussex? Which part?

Lewes and the surrounding villages

Stringagal · 17/01/2024 20:09

”As for celebrating Yorkshire day, seriously get a grip, you are not God’s chosen people!”

We don’t really celebrate it, as such… we just have a couple more cuppas than usual. Yorkshire Tea, obviously, made with Yorkshire water.

Naptrappedmummy · 17/01/2024 20:50

Stringagal · 17/01/2024 20:09

”As for celebrating Yorkshire day, seriously get a grip, you are not God’s chosen people!”

We don’t really celebrate it, as such… we just have a couple more cuppas than usual. Yorkshire Tea, obviously, made with Yorkshire water.

As you breathe pure Yorkshire air into your Yorkshire lungs and listen to the sweet Yorkshire birdsong in the Yorkshire countryside. Bliss!

Naptrappedmummy · 17/01/2024 20:56

Sectorone · 17/01/2024 18:21

Oh, you are in for a treat, here’s a YouTube link to a great clip -

She’s got a cracking singing voice to be fair

coxesorangepippin · 17/01/2024 21:14

So just to add another POV: there is a "north" further north than Yorkshire

^

Yeah... But The Wall?!

Beansandcheesearegood · 17/01/2024 21:21

I'm a teacher. I've lots of comments about my teaching of phonics. I'm from North West, live in South East, have done for 12 years. Lots of comments and asking me to say certain sounds/ phrases in my accent. Did a course about behaviour and restrictive techniques- course leader made a comment about how I'm probably an expert due to my 'rough' upbringing in the big scary northern city I'm from.... I'd met him that day- he was from london- I did put him in his place.

Sectorone · 17/01/2024 21:29

Naptrappedmummy · 17/01/2024 20:56

She’s got a cracking singing voice to be fair

She has! I haven’t seen her on much but she was in a comedy drama I watched playing herself but exaggerated which was funny and she was on celebrity gogglebox and she was funny on there as well.

lochmaree · 17/01/2024 23:08

blacksax · 17/01/2024 14:36

Funny that. I've often found 'Yorkshire Born and Bred' folk to be totally up themselves, and they look down on everyone who wasn't fortunate enough to be born in Yorkshire.

🤣 do you know my MIL? 😂

aweegc · 17/01/2024 23:29

Malarandras · 17/01/2024 17:02

Try being Scottish OP, it’s a whole new world of stereotypes and prejudices!

This.

Go check out the comments on The Telegraph or Daily Mail any time Scotland is mentioned...

HalloumiGeller · 17/01/2024 23:44

I'm from the North West and have lived down south for almost 17 years now. When I first moved down I hated it, as its such a culture shock at first (unless you've lived in both you don't understand it). I still prefer the North for the people (always will) but I can see the benefits of the South (better opportunities). I'm used to it now and have met some lovely friends since being down here, but home will always be home!

HalloumiGeller · 17/01/2024 23:50

SallyWD · 17/01/2024 16:21

People saying northerners (particularly Yorkshire people) are just as bad about southerners. Well, that's not my experience. I'm from the south east but have lived in Yorkshire for 12 years. In all that time I have never once heard any northerner say something derogatory about the south or southerners. Not once! Yet I've lost count of how many times my southern friends have slagged off the north. When they found out I was moving to Yorkshire it was all "Oh it's so grim up there, it's always raining, it's so poor you'll be able to buy a mansion up there, you won't earn much" etc. etc.
Also I have quite a posh southern accent and was fully prepared to have people make fun of me up here. Again - this hasn't happened once! Not once! Yet when I lived down south people were always mocking my posh voice. "Oh listen to you, it's like talking to the Queen" etc.
Sorry, many may disagree but I genuinely believe that southerners are much meaner about northerners than vice versa and I say that as a southerner.

I'm inclined to agree with you!

HalloumiGeller · 17/01/2024 23:54

Gettingittogether · 17/01/2024 17:56

I think it's true.

But be honest, 100% truly honest with yourself - up North we are 1000 times worse for taking the piss out of Southerners. We are savage about it

I have links to the North East, North West, Yorkshire and Scotland and it's all the same. We are brutal towards and about Southerners.

My DC are Southern - ah the ribbing they get from family 'don't teach you proper football down South do they?', 'when you gonna move up here so we can teach you about real music' etc etc. I'm Northern but I give my kids come back lines to use on them and it's funny. They get into the spirit of it.

I think it goes both ways and if just part of UK culture - North Vs South. England Vs Scotland, Liverpool Vs Manchester. North Vs South Manchester.

I feel like culturally British people can't not have some sort of imagined beef with ourselves but I always took it to be mostly banter even if sometimes it can sting! Which I appreciate for you, it has. I've been on the receiving end of comments that have gone a bit too far. But I've also seen comments go too far up North.

So I'd say it's fairly equal - in my experience anyway.

It's funny because my kids are stuck in between lol. I'm northern and their dad (my ex) is Southern, but they live with me and my partner (who is a Yorkshireman haha) so my youngest very frequently uses "northern" words but has a southern accent 😆

EffieeBriest · 17/01/2024 23:56

What’s more irritating are the southerners who’ve moved up here but can’t wait to tell you their house is worth £800,000 and they have 5 artisan bakeries down the street. So even though they’ve taken one for the team moving up here, it’s not to somewhere bog standard, it’s always vary naice.

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