If you're northern do you find southeners a bit patronising sometimes?!

[doyouknowwhatimean]

NC for this as a bit of a rant! Just had to get it off my chest as have met someone recently who is a prime example of what I mean and I find it reallty annoying.

Just to explain I don't mean ALL southeners! So don't say they're not all like that - I know! Lots of my best friends are southern ;-) There's just a certain type.

I'm born and bred Yorkshire. Sometimes I meet people from the south who seem to think we all live in some kind of Hovis advert or were born down a pit. They think all out houses cost £2.50 and we've never heard of flat whites. I don't have an accent particulaly but sometimes when I say where I'm from I can see the perception changes.

A (fairly senior) work mate in London asked me if I was from a pit village (he just assumed I was as I'm northern). DHs grandfather asked me if I had ever heard of Waitrose. My MiL thinks we have lots of spare income because we pay "Northern Prices".

Friend of a friend I met recently was saying she could buy half of Manchester for the price of her 4 bed in the home counties. She seemed surprised I went to private school as if they don't exist north of the Watford Gap.

I just find it really annoying!!! There is a ton of deprevation in Yorkshire (thanks Tories!) but also in London and across the SE too. There's also culture and nice areas in most parts of the UK.

But house prices are far cheaper up north, objectively.

I am a Londoner and have travelled to places like Manchester. The north is painted a lot cheaper than London but other than properties, I didn't find things much cheaper particularly in shops like Marks and Spencer. I don't have much of a opinion on the north TBH.

"The research shows that there remains a clear divide, with the average house price across the South currently sitting at £404,869. What’s more, every region south of the divide is home to an average house price north of £300,000. In contrast, the average house price across the North is currently £209,404, with the West Midlands home to the highest average house price at £256,937."

www.propertyreporter.co.uk/north-south-house-price-divide-narrows-further.html#:~:text=What's%20more%2C%20every%20region%20south,house%20price%20at%20%C2%A3256%2C937.

The thing that irritates me is Londoners thinking that everyone knows everything about London. Like talking about certain boroughs or areas and assuming you know where they are and if they’re posh or not.

You are all southerners to me

York is 243 miles to my south and Manchester is is 247 miles south.

How do you know if someone's from Yorkshire? THEY'LL TELL YOU.

Just a bit. I once got asked by a colleague, while working in London, if we had theatres. Took a lot of self-control not to say nah, we just all go down the precinct and watch the tramps fighting.

Surely most people who live in London are not from London.

Northerners have Booths. That's far pushed than Waitrose!!

Hell yeah

But they will all claim it's untrue, we don't have accent bias etc. As the op says they think we're thick, 'EE by eck' comments etc. Absolutely unbelievable.

My experience at uni and the incredibly negative attitude from people with a different accent to mine was enough to just make me want to move abroad.

My parents were in a pub once in the Cotswolds (yes, they were allowed in) and my mum overheard a woman actually say:

'There's nothing intrinsically wrong with Northerners'

😱😱😱

Why not just back up north?

I was told by someone "dahn shah" that they really liked me because I was so "ethnic". I am Scottish!

Essex native here, partner of 30 years plus from Yorkshire.

Good Christ I’m sick of listening to this kind of stuff from the Yorkshire contingent. Constant whining about Southerners being posh / privileged / right-wing / soft / lazy / unable to pronounce the English language correctly etc etc. 30+ years of Essex girl jokes whilst simultaneously harping on about unfair Northern stereotypes.

I’ve also never heard a Southerner slagging off the North or Northerners (unless it’s me muttering under my breath as I’m forced to listen to yet another patronising lecture about why Yorkshire’s so great & everywhere else is so crap).

Good luck buying in half of Manchester if you are anyone who isn't minted. The place is barely recognisable after all the " improvements "
It won't be too long before it looses it's soul.

If you want to live in a place as condescending as London, try most of Cheshire 🤣

@DoorPath but it's relative and depends where, it's like saying average price in Thames valley is xxxx and then expecting that price or round about just as much in Marlow as say Swindon

Whilst average prices are def cheaper up north it factors in lots of places that are cheap as chips and others that really are not . I think many think everywhere will be cheap up north and it's not the case at all

I'm from.the north west and worked in London for a few years back I the 80s. I can honestly say I never had a problem, the Londoners were very friendly, there was a little bit of piss taking of my accent and my nickname was "Coronation street", shortened to "Corrie".Nobody ever asked me if I had worked down t'pit

or still travelled by horse and cart.
The banter was always a friendly banter and back then people didn't get so offended at anything amd everything 😉 I miss those days

There's not even a Booths for miles around in my bit of Yorkshire.

Nearest Waitrose is 100 miles.

Everyone is v proud of being from Yorkshire but also open about it being grim.

Rishi Sunaks constituency is in Yorkshire...

(Or do Southerners presume its Richmond Upon Thames not Richmond?)

Theres richer parts of Yorkshire and poorer parts. And not all Yorkshire is Pits... some oarts are Mills!

As a Londoner, Born and Bread, I speak on behalf of all Londoners, especially the Born and Bread Londoners, we do drink better coffee in our more expensive houses than Northerners, especially Born and Bread Northerners.

I am a northerner from a nice area. I have a lot of uni mates doing the same profession living in places like Reading, Bristol, Oxford and Swindon. I have a better quality of life than most of them as do most of my local friends.

Im going back some time now so hope things have changed, but my first year at Uni was utterly miserable because I was from The North. Everyone asked me about it and I genuinely got the “ But where are you really from?” Question when people heard my accent. And Im not talking about immature students..I got the worst comments from tutors.

Also comments in shops and restaurants “ You sound like someone from Coronation Street”

As I’ve got older, I would say the biggest prejudice I’ve suffered is not because of gender , health etc but because of my class/accent. But Im a civil servant so get the Whitehall snobbery you , sadly, might expect. It’s not life damaging though - just bloody tedious

Possibly missing your point but why would
”people from the south who seem to think we all live in some kind of Hovis advert”? The Hovis advert was from the South.

Full clarification I hate professional Yorkshire people! In every town there's a plethora of shops selling tea towels with "Ehh By Gum" on or some twee crap.

I only said I was "Yorkshire born and bred" to provide context I've not got a badge with it on or anything.

Yes people do talk about being from Yorkshire as if it was a defining personality trait - like James Martin "I like butter I'm from Yorkshire". Even more annoyingly the majority of these people actually live in Hertfordshire.

I also don't think that all southerners go round slagging off northeners - I'm just always surprised at the reaction of some where I say where I live or the assumptions about our lives. I think there's a real assumption that we're not as educated / cultured. As a pp said it's hard to explain unless it's happened to you. Just had it happen yesterday and thought it was interesting!

Also re house prices - I feel that the nice areas up north / down south aren't massivley different if you've got an average job / 3 bed house type set up. Central London is v skewed due to areas such as Mayfair ect which is largely foreign owned anyway so not reflective on the life of your average citizen.

I’ve a relative in the South who annoys me by saying how easy it is for our kids to buy houses compared to their kids, because houses are soooo cheap up here.

For reference, her kids bought typical two-bed starter homes in the south for £200K. Ours bought similar in the north and they cost £350K (and needed loads of work doing on it), 240 and 220. Our own northern 4 bed house was £800K. But southerners they think we can all buy mansions for 100 grand EVERYWHERE in the north.