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If you're northern do you find southeners a bit patronising sometimes?!

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doyouknowwhatimean · 17/01/2024 13:51

NC for this as a bit of a rant! Just had to get it off my chest as have met someone recently who is a prime example of what I mean and I find it reallty annoying.

Just to explain I don't mean ALL southeners! So don't say they're not all like that - I know! Lots of my best friends are southern ;-) There's just a certain type.

I'm born and bred Yorkshire. Sometimes I meet people from the south who seem to think we all live in some kind of Hovis advert or were born down a pit. They think all out houses cost £2.50 and we've never heard of flat whites. I don't have an accent particulaly but sometimes when I say where I'm from I can see the perception changes.

A (fairly senior) work mate in London asked me if I was from a pit village (he just assumed I was as I'm northern). DHs grandfather asked me if I had ever heard of Waitrose. My MiL thinks we have lots of spare income because we pay "Northern Prices".

Friend of a friend I met recently was saying she could buy half of Manchester for the price of her 4 bed in the home counties. She seemed surprised I went to private school as if they don't exist north of the Watford Gap.

I just find it really annoying!!! There is a ton of deprevation in Yorkshire (thanks Tories!) but also in London and across the SE too. There's also culture and nice areas in most parts of the UK.

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LivingDeadGirlUK · 17/01/2024 17:00

Well it probably goes both ways really, I'm a southerner who lives in the north and so many people assume I'm 'posh' because I have a different accent, and there is plenty of ribbing about how I speak and the fact I'd never eaten a pie shoved in a bread roll before.

WishesPromises · 17/01/2024 17:02

It's tedious, but they genuinely think they are being funny.

Malarandras · 17/01/2024 17:02

Try being Scottish OP, it’s a whole new world of stereotypes and prejudices!

JustwantacupfT · 17/01/2024 17:02

I am midlander but I went to uni up north and I noticed some southerners talking down to certain people. During my first year living in halls there was a lovely girl from the Norrh East and there were two other girls who were both from down south. They always used to laugh at her and correct her about things and say things like 'In my world, we do x,y or z' as if southerners had the monopoly on knowing the most appropriate etiquette or action in any given situation. (I don't know why they thought this?!!)

They used to laugh and call her a loser etc. I found it so cringe. There was no point me sharing my thoughts in the matter cause they were pretty rude to me too. Was glad to create some distance going into the 2nd year!!

NewYearNewYak · 17/01/2024 17:03

It’s only patronising if you think they might have a point. I don’t take it that way. I just think they’re stupid.

HalfasleepChrisintheMorning · 17/01/2024 17:05

LivingDeadGirlUK · 17/01/2024 17:00

Well it probably goes both ways really, I'm a southerner who lives in the north and so many people assume I'm 'posh' because I have a different accent, and there is plenty of ribbing about how I speak and the fact I'd never eaten a pie shoved in a bread roll before.

What is this pie shoved in a bread roll?
Yorkshire lass and proud of it, never heard of this!

Naptrappedmummy · 17/01/2024 17:05

I think there's a real assumption that we're not as educated / cultured.

Bristol is ‘down south’ and I bet they know far more about this than you!

Sectorone · 17/01/2024 17:06

HalfasleepChrisintheMorning · 17/01/2024 17:05

What is this pie shoved in a bread roll?
Yorkshire lass and proud of it, never heard of this!

Google Wigan kebab for many photos that may, or may not, make you hungry!

doyouknowwhatimean · 17/01/2024 17:07

TippiHedrin · 17/01/2024 16:57

Loads of the people I know who give it all that about being Yorkshire born and bred went to private school and their parents are totally Booths-d up to the eyeballs. I'm from Yorkshire, lived in London for years, and moved back recently. Absolutely every single joke about posh groceries on the several meme accounts about gentrified East London that I still follow applies even more so up here. I can buy a tin of perello olives in three independent shops within a 5 minute walk of my "Johnny Briggs terrace".

This made me laugh!!! I'm the total stereotype, love a Booths deli counter.

In fact the charcuterie selection round these parts is beyond compare.

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YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 17/01/2024 17:08

Mum from Northumberland, Dad from London, Me born and bred in London, and now living NE Hants and finding that any / all can be good, bad or plain daft in what they think and assume about another. I find a lack of education or being fed one stream of it, never leaving their 'tribe' and believing everything they read, without reading widely, leads to stupidity, whether in thought or words leaving the mouth! Even locally, if you are not born in this small town you are something 'less' according to some and it really does make the argument for having more bikes available in small towns and villages, so they can travel more widely. Assumptions really cause grief, don't they!

Catlord · 17/01/2024 17:09

HalfasleepChrisintheMorning · 17/01/2024 17:05

What is this pie shoved in a bread roll?
Yorkshire lass and proud of it, never heard of this!

It's a Lancashire delicacy!

doyouknowwhatimean · 17/01/2024 17:10

janruarry · 17/01/2024 16:34

How do you know someone's from Yorkshire....

I have addressed this!!! I was explaining where I'm from in the context of the OP!!!

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ALongHardWinter · 17/01/2024 17:10

On the contrary! I'm a southerner and I have found some northerners take the attitude that all southerners are posh! When I was on holiday a couple of years ago in Wales,there was a family from Liverpool in the next caravan. I overheard the mother saying to the father one day about 'those posh,stuck up southerners next door'. Just because we don't speak with a northern accent,it doesn't make us posh or stuck up!

Boomer55 · 17/01/2024 17:10

blacksax · 17/01/2024 14:36

Funny that. I've often found 'Yorkshire Born and Bred' folk to be totally up themselves, and they look down on everyone who wasn't fortunate enough to be born in Yorkshire.

Yep, they can be a funny lot.

HalfasleepChrisintheMorning · 17/01/2024 17:12

Catlord · 17/01/2024 17:09

It's a Lancashire delicacy!

Wrong side of t’Moss!🤣

Naptrappedmummy · 17/01/2024 17:17

doyouknowwhatimean · 17/01/2024 17:10

I have addressed this!!! I was explaining where I'm from in the context of the OP!!!

Yes but literally nobody would put ‘I’m Basingstoke/Hampshire born and bred’, it’s indicative of this Yorkshire pride that we’re all on about! It’s there even if you think it isn’t!

Sharontheodopolodous · 17/01/2024 17:19

I'm a Yorkshire lass and my partner is from down south

When we met,he was genuinely amazed I didn't own a whippet,didn't wear my hair in curlers to go to the bingo,had never 'been down pit' or live like someone off the set of coronation Street

He is amazed at the fact I love Christmas cake with a slice of cheese but that's about it

Unless you count my accent-he loves the fact I miss my 'H's'

If he tries to get me to say 'henrys house has a hoover' one more time I will strangle him

Everyone knows it's 'enrys ouse as a oover'

I just take the piss he doesn't say his 'f's' and says baaattthhh instead of bath

Swings and roundabouts in our house

janruarry · 17/01/2024 17:19

NooNakedJacuzziness · 17/01/2024 15:07

How do you know if someone's from Yorkshire? THEY'LL TELL YOU.

Exactly

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 17/01/2024 17:20

Ooh, we're going all Yorkshireist now....

RockStarship · 17/01/2024 17:24

Well tbh I've found this works both ways. I'm from "the south" and I lived in Yorkshire for a few years when I was younger. I had people constantly mocking my accent and calling me a Cockney Sparrow despite the fact I was from Bedfordshire and had never even been to the East End of London before. I was told that people felt sorry for me because "London" was so built up and there were no nice views...despite, again, being from Bedfordshire (rather than London) which has plenty of lovely scenery. I was told that Northerners hate Southeners because they think Lancashire and Yorkshire accents are the same- this said to me by the same people who thought that anywhere south of Sheffield was London. So yeah...the same inane comments are made regardless of whether you live in the north, the south or anywhere in between.

GrandHighPoohbah · 17/01/2024 17:26

Not the point of the thread, but I can't help being reminded of that 1980s comedy sketch where two Londoners are having coffee. One arrives late saying "Sorry I'm late, I've been up North. To Hampstead Heath" 😂

Cancelledcurio · 17/01/2024 17:27

Scottish, so very Northern and living in South of England. Never find them patronising. There are too many different nationalities/accents for them to give a flying to be honest !

MarkWithaC · 17/01/2024 17:27

Sectorone · 17/01/2024 13:56

I moved from London to the north east and I get people being just as rude to me, making assumptions about me, mimicking and mocking my accent etc. I think some people are rude about people who are different and some people are ignorant of anything outside of their own experiences. I’m sure most people who have relocated or married into a family from a different location have experienced the same.

I agree. People mock my accent (really badly)/tell me if I sold my house in London I could buy half of [insert northern town] (and they don't think that's a good thing either, never mind that it's patently untrue), assume I can't handle cold weather, constantly go on about how busy/crime-ridden/dirty etc London is...

Ironically, while I spent some of my childhood in the south of England (and my parents had no money and worked several jobs), most of it was spent in the Midlands (also with no money) and my accent is a mix of both. People seem to choose to hear/home in on/mock the southern part only.

It used to fuck me off, but now I just think if people like having a chip on their shoulder and they get a little kick out of it, fine, go ahead. I'm too old to care any more.

TheCadoganArms · 17/01/2024 17:27

Sharontheodopolodous · 17/01/2024 17:19

I'm a Yorkshire lass and my partner is from down south

When we met,he was genuinely amazed I didn't own a whippet,didn't wear my hair in curlers to go to the bingo,had never 'been down pit' or live like someone off the set of coronation Street

He is amazed at the fact I love Christmas cake with a slice of cheese but that's about it

Unless you count my accent-he loves the fact I miss my 'H's'

If he tries to get me to say 'henrys house has a hoover' one more time I will strangle him

Everyone knows it's 'enrys ouse as a oover'

I just take the piss he doesn't say his 'f's' and says baaattthhh instead of bath

Swings and roundabouts in our house

When we met,he was genuinely amazed I didn't own a whippet,didn't wear my hair in curlers to go to the bingo,had never 'been down pit' or live like someone off the set of coronation Street

Not sure who is more gullible in this relationship.

Cancelledcurio · 17/01/2024 17:30

@Malarandras really? I don't get that . As I said, everyone is from all over the place and there are quite alot of fellow Scots where I work so no one cares!

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