Amanda and Giovanni

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Apologies if there is already a thread but I couldn’t find one. What on earth has gone on between Amanda Abbington and Giovanni Pernice during Strictly?AA is apparently taking legal action against the BBC claiming she has PTSD.

I thought so too! I even wondered if she'd left the show because she was about to be hit by the strictly curse.

I prefer my version of events to the 'Gio is an awful bully' thing some people seem to have decided on. Even Amanda hasn't said that has she? Seems a bit off that he's being subjected to all this speculation when we don't even know if any accusations have been made against him.

It's a dance show that she could and did walk out of, not the Mekong Delta (where my teenage cousin acquired undoubted PTSD) or the Somme, or a rape, or many other scenarios where people end up with lifelong, horrible damage.

A dance show.

was it her partner she married?

Yes. She says it was stage fright that got to her, see below.

I imagine the hysteria surrounding SCD, and the increasingly high expectations, make it difficult not to feel under intense pressure to go way outside your comfort zone physically and emotionally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Riley#Strictly_Come_Dancing

Amanda Abbington is a wonderful actress, and also a really strong women's rights advocate, who has been bullied (by largely men) mercilessly online and handled it with aplomb. I admire her greatly and she is certainly no flake. Giovanni seems like a wonderful instructor, much loved by strictly fans, and a great addition to the show. Neither has said anything about the other. I suspect the issue is NOT with Giovanni, but other people in the strictly house...

Yes, she married Pasha Kovalev, her dance partner on the show. That was about 10 years ago and they're married with 2 daughters now.

All of this information is available via google.

Amanda Abbington probobaly has another tax bill due.
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/mr-selfridge-actress-amanda-abbington-brands-bankruptcy-publicity-mean-and-upsetting-8624858.html

I'm amazed Amanda Abbington hasn't sued HMRC for PTSD as well.

You don’t know much about bankruptcy if you think she needs to settle a tax bill 11 years after going bankrupt. That would be well in the past now. You posted this purely to be nasty about her. Do you object to the fact she supports women’s rights?

As I’m not a psychologist, don’t know either party and wasn’t there during any of their training, I, of course, can never have an informed or factual take on this. I will only say that we need to hear all the facts before passing judgement and potentially ruining someone’s career (or life). You only have to look at Caroline Flack’s situation to see what a trial by media can lead to.

The question I’d ask would be how likely the BBC would be aware of systematic abusive behaviour going on (far and above a bit of shouting and a few missed breaks but to the extent someone could claim it caused/contributed to PTSD), allow all of that behaviour to be filmed, try to cover it up and end up in a position where they would have to hand that footage over and be exposed for their negligence?

I seriously doubt they would risk the jewel in their TV crown for Gio; the show’s survived when other popular dancers (Artem, Alijaz, etc) have left, so they would’ve got rid of him before they got cancelled. There’s no point comparing this to Saville because Gio doesn’t have the fame, power or influence Saville had, there wasn’t 100s of hours of potentially incriminating footage in that case or a social media judge and jury back then, so much easier and more convenient to cover up.

I think they got together after his accident

I had a bad feeling about these two being paired up. I’m not implying bad behaviour on either part, I just don’t think they were the right match at all. They did some good dances though.

@Utterknowitall she was definitely with her partner before his horrific accident.

I’m sure she’s not just ‘saying’ she’s got PTSD. To get a case of the ground she will have needed a diagnosis - none of us knows as a result of what.

No, they got together before the accident.

@SaffronSpice, Amanda Abbington was a very well-paid actress appearing in Sherlock. Yet, she was declared bankrupt and she owed £120,000 in tax.

Now Amanda is suing for PTSD as a result of taking part in a dance competition. It sounds very much like another one of her solutions to financial incompetency.

Did Amanda also sue HMRC for PTSD as a result of being asked to pay her taxes?

Im a mental health practitioner and 90% of the "thoughts" on PTSD on here are completely wrong.

People also getting cPTSD completely wrong.

So many people thinking their version is "correct".

Its really infuriated me .

Please - unless you are a mental health clinician don't even attempt to say what you "think" it is on here. It's highly likely you are wrong.

Its positive that talking about mental health is more open now - but why on earth do people on here think they understand the diagnostic criteria for mental health conditions ?

The amount of people "diagnosing" depression, ASD, ADHD and now thinking they understand PTSD and cPTSD is ridiculous.

I'm fascinated by the use of PTSD for something related to dancing. It would have to be truly horrific trauma. It will be interesting to see what it reveals about the whole of the Strictly regimes.

I've danced on stage with a broken foot and not got PTSD from that... I do suffer from documented PTSD though.

This thread is nuttier than Snickers.

judgey and just so simplistic 🤫. How the hell do you know that the lack of commitment and effort was on her part? she accepted money so that means she waived any right to be treated decently? Bullying isn’t ok regardless of whether it’s being perpetrated against an ordinary person or a celebrity

Those of us with the diagnosis as a result of traumatic life changing events are entitled to be surprised that it could be triggered by appearing on Strictly though.

Just as those of us who live with family members whose lives are destroyed by ADHD are offended when people claim to have it because they lost their car keys once or twice.

And in any event as a mental health professional you should know that ADHD and ASD are not mental health conditions.

@Willyoujustbequiet

ADHD and ASD affect peoples mental health significantly and both conditions fall under mental health services.

They are not mental health conditions though and shouldn't be labelled as such.

They are neurological disorders.

@Willyoujustbequiet oh my good god woman. Another one who is an armchair psychiatrist.

You know nothing about me.

You however claim to be a mental health professional yet don't appear to know that ASD and ADHD are not mental health conditions.

Poor show really.

This is quite an extraordinary response when @Willyoujustbequiet is correct that ADHD & ASD are neurological disorders.