Genuine question - can trans women experience cramps during their ‘time of the month’?

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This is a genuine question as I am baffled.

I looking on Tik Tok last night (don’t judge me, I’m addicted lol)and I notice on my For You section there is often a trans women doing live Q&A’s. I stopped and watched for a while, out of curiosity tbh as DH has a couple of transgender people in his family and I do try to remain as ‘on the fence’ as possible with this subject.

However, this person on TT said something which does not make much sense to me.

They were saying they take HRT and this gives them ‘a time of the month’ when they experience a very emotional dip and have crying spells and feel low etc. I suppose that may make some sense due to the hormones they take but then they went on to say they also experience cramping during this time and started rubbing their lower tummy in the area where a woman’s uterus is located.
It was difficult to establish why this happens because anyone actually questioning this gets blocked and only those agreeing with them get to stay to ask questions! I appreciate they probably receive some very negative replies but blocking doesn’t answer the questions to people who really would like to know.

I genuinely can not understand where the cramps would originate in a person without female anatomy?

As someone who has been under the gynae department for 20+ years, has had to live their live around horrendous periods, has had endless hysteroscopies and uterine polyp removals, ovulation so painful I couldn’t sit properly, a failed uterine ablation, going through an awful perimenopause and now, at 50 only just discovering this is probably all due to the fact I actually have endometriosis and adenomyosis and have been gas lit for all this time having being told that some women just have awful periods etc, I more than understand where my cramps and pain come from. From my shit malfunctioning uterus and hormones which have never been my friend.

But where would a trans woman’s ‘time of the month’ cramps come from? What part of their body cramps due to the addition of female hormones? I’ve tried googling this but there’s very little. Can the hormones cramp the muscles or bowel in this area or something similar?

Really? Why are they taking about cramps and cycles then?

It's part of the fantasy and the fetish

It may also be a wilful misreading of gastro intestinal upsets from taking wrong-sex hormones

@MintyfreshSW

But you don’t need a uterus to experience PMS symptoms which is what they actually mean.

What is menstrual about their symptoms? You need to have the capacity to menstruate to have PMS.

That and sticking tampons with fake blood up where the sun doesn’t shine. I’m not making this up by the way!

So when they claim to be having period cramps “at that time of the month” they actually mean they are experiencing symptoms similar to PMS? Why would they be saying one thing and meaning another?

Because cramps are a part of PMS? They don’t have to be uterine cramps.

I imagine psychological?

You need a female reproductive system to experience Pre-Menstrual Syndrome.

Men can’t just behave like irresponsible tourists appropriating the bits of womanhood they find entertaining (and redefining the terms to centre their own experiences).

Why is this type of behaviour celebrated by the #bekinders rather than condemned? Nope we are called bigots or hate-filled for objecting. And told absolute misinformation about how trans women are the most vulnerable of all to try to keep us in our place.

Could you explain how or in what way, Transwomen are women?

Nope.

Nope.

The menstrual cycle and its symptoms are caused by natural fluctuations in hormonal balances over the course of a month.

It would make absolutely no sense for someone taking consistent doses of hormones throughout the month to experience any sort of "time of the month" in any way.

This is not a dig at you. The absolute basics of female biology and reproduction are so neglected in this (and most) countries that it makes it depressingly easy to be taken on by nonsense like this.

Fair enough. What do you think is cramping if it isn’t smooth uterine muscle?

Please do correct me but does hormone therapy simulate the rise and fall of estrogen and progesterone which would cause a cycle of symptoms?

Tired of seeing period cramps represented as something we indulge ourselves in like its an excuse to sit curled up in jammies, crying about boys with a hot water bottle and bar of chocolate. I'd like to see any of them cope with the reality of the pain, dizziness, shits, flatulence, all while looking after 3 kids and working 40 hours a week.

Please do correct me but does hormone therapy simulate the rise and fall of estrogen and progesterone which would cause a cycle of symptoms?

Only if you take cyclical/varying doses which mimic the actual rise and fall of the natural female menstrual cycle. Which menopausal women only do if they have to (to avoid uterine cancer) as, unlike the men with period fetishes, women don't actually want or enjoy periods if they dont need to

There are two types of HRT for women:

1. Combined HRT

Combined HRT contains oestrogen and a progestogen. This can be sequential or continuous. Sequential HRT – Oestrogen is taken every day, and the progestogen is taken for (usually) half of the month. HRT taken this way results in a monthly bleed. Continuous combined HRT – So-called because the two hormones (oestrogen and progestogen) are taken together, daily. This approach results in no bleeding.

1. Oestrogen-only HRT

Oestrogen-only HRT – Most women who have had a hysterectomy don’t need the progestogen and will take what is known as oestrogen-only HRT.

@autisticat I notice you picked me up on my choice of language but didn't actually answer the question.

You say that TW are Women (a saying that I and many other women find offensive by the way, but you don't care about that).

The question was do you truly and unerringly believe that TWAW in every circumstance and conversely that TMAM. So you would happily engage in a sexual relationship with a TM even if you are heterosexual, you would be willing to perform cunnilingus on a man? You would be completely fine with your mum asking for a female carer and having a TW insist they are a woman and that they must be allowed to wash your mums vulva and help change incontinence pads, or taking your daughter with physical disabilities to the toilet and helping her to change her menstrual products, you think that one of the few women incarcerated in prison, the vast majority of whom have experienced physical and sexual abuse at the hands of a male should be locked in a cell with a TW (over 50% of whom are in prison for sex crimes)?

What about the women and girls who sacrificed huge portions of their childhoods, caused permanent damage to their bodies, live with significant restrictions on their eating habits and social lives in order to be the best in their sport, who are then pitted against a mediocre male sportsperson who is declaring themselves a woman but who has a natural , inherent physical advantage and makes it so the women and girls cannot win?

At what point should women and girls stop 'being kind' and start saying that it's all a load of hairy bollocks and men can get the fuck out.

No. And an added bonus is no more breast pain either! Although surgical menopause after a TAH and BSO following a severe haemorrhage, my Hb was 16 two months previously and fell to 8, while having very low phosphate and high calcium and pth levels due to undiagnosed primary hyperparathyroidism was a complete nightmare. And no HRT because I had a DVT two months previously! And no HRT still 7 years later as unfortunately a year after the TAH I had failed surgery for the pHPT. See I can do real medical acronyms for real medical conditions. Oh and I also experienced feel medical gaslighting from male doctors!!! Who don't experience surgical menopause and pHPT. In fact if they did a lot of us women suffering might be taken a bit more seriously and looked after a bit better. Apologies for the rant.

They don't have a 'time of the month' or anything vaguely like it. Made up attention seeking bollocks that makes me cringe.

what exactly cramps in a man taking hormones?
His ego

Oops. That should read no, women don't have cramps or pms after a TAH!!! PHPT also causes brain fog!

If you have no period you can't have pms, cramps at that time of the month are classed as pms. It's called premenstrual syndrome for a reason. It's pre your menstruation, if you don't don't menstruate you don't get pms.

It doesn't matter what drugs you take you don't get pms if you're not menstruating.

Thank you.

i imagine a genuine trans women on an adapted dose of hormones is likely to then still experience something resembling a cycle with the associated symptoms. In other cases perhaps psychosomatic?

Lol no blokes don’t get period cramps. He probably just needed a good fart.