6am Quality Street diet

[Helenahandkart]

Perimenopausal insomnia means I’m sitting in the couch at 6am eating Quality Street musing about all the people who say that they’re starting their diets today.
How is it possible to start a diet on the 27th? Do these people not have any Christmas chocolate?
I have a fridge full of cream and Baileys, there are peanuts and Twiglets everywhere, and mountains and mountains of chocolate and sweets and gingerbread houses - most of which were given to us as presents. Any plans to diet are postponed until we’ve worked our way through it all.
Do the dieters just throw it all in the bin? And not go to any new year parties?

OP, I also don't understand how anyone starts on 1st January either. I would say that a hangover requires salty snacks and fried food but afraid that posters on here will then assume I'm a raging alcoholic and worse, someone who eats carbs 😱and I'll get a lecture for drinking a glass of champagne at midnight on New Year's and having a bacon sandwich for breakfast. Suffice it to say, I've never started a new year with a salad (and I like salad, honestly!)

My tree won't come down til 6th Jan - end of Christmas! - and I'll drink Baileys by its twinkly lights til then.

I ordered a skirt with an elasticated waist in the sales, that's my top tip for the season!

(Flees thread before people start pelting me with kale)

Ohhhhhhhh, that sounds nice!

Interesting, I read this as being a comment about the PP who told me I’d lost my way. Not as a comment about me.
Surely confessing to having a bit of chocolate during the Christmas period isn’t indicative of an eating disorder. Not when I balanced it with the aforementioned kale.

I read it as a comment about you potentially having food issues because they said “so many people on mumsnet who start food threads, have some sort of issue around food.” There are undoubtedly a lot of people on mumsnet with disordered eating of some sort.

Of course you can eat chocolate for breakfast sometimes, post about food and post photos of kale and not have any food issues, but often people that seem to justify what they eat and want to talk about food, do have a history of disordered eating and we see it on here all the time.

knuckle chaser I suspect 😞

5'11" and same.

Oh dear. So this has escalated from my throwaway comment about early morning Quality Street whilst reading Mumsnet, to being suspected of having bulimia. Better not mention today’s breakfast panettone then.

I haven’t read the full thread but has anyone said bulimia?

Your past posts do indeed show you have had food issues/disordered eating so I don’t think this thread will be helping.

I hope you get on top of it and the menopause issues.

I had some people over before Christmas and bought some tasty treats for them. Which they didn't eat. So now it's just me and the dog.... fortunately I went back to work yesterday, and can't eat there, so am telling myself that I'll just eat when I'm not on work days.

Whipped cream and sour cheese Pringle sandwiches, anyone?

What is ‘knuckle chaser’ if not a reference to bulimia?

I was bulimic for a short period as a teenager. I have eaten in a pretty moderate way for the subsequent 30+ years, even allowing for a period of weight gain during infertility treatment which I then successfully dieted to lose.

Are you really suggesting that someone who eats chocolate and starts a thread where they muse about diets because they are awake very early in the morning and have nothing to do other than quietly scrolling through Mumsnet, must have an eating disorder?

It’s a really odd thing to dredge through a poster’s previous posts to discredit them, as I mentioned upthread. What are you hoping to achieve by doing that?

Why is talking about food proof positive of an eating disorder?

op I was on the same thread discussing EDs (i suffer)

I just don’t get why you’re like this on this thread given the other thread but i will bow out and hide now

I have no idea what you mean by that. Nothing I’m writing in this thread contradicts anything I’ve written on another thread.

I had the last two homemade brownies with double cream for breakfast.

Normally I'm very good with my eating habits, but if there's sweet stuff in the house I can't resist it. Luckily we only got bought one box of chocolates between us that I've eaten 90% of so once it's all finished I can get back on track.

I couldn't bear to throw it away but if we have been given too much I've given sweet stuff away on olio or donated to the food bank before.

OP on the ED thread you say that your wish your partner didn’t buy you chocolate as it is a trigger for your binge eating disorder. So i suppose the PP is referring to that?

chocolate croissant here. They’ve become the go to breakfast here!

8th January is official diet day
Always 1st Monday of January unless Monday is 1st, 2nd or 3rd.

Also dry January - nonsense
You literally start January with a drink in hand
Its the law

OP, I was going to comment lightheartedly until I saw that you had previously posted about EDs. Having had a quick look, you have talked about having bulimia, anorexia, binge eating and struggling for 40 years with food issues. This is what a pp was talking about, posters starting these threads who have food issues, it’s really common here but I don’t think it’s helpful to you.

I don’t have a binge eating disorder, and I did not describe myself as such. I occasionally binge on junk food/chocolate during the luteal phase of my cycle, and because of that I ask my partner not to bring home that kind of food at that time of the month.

Because I had bulimia when I was young, and had extensive help and counselling at that time, I’m really aware of how to eat in a balanced way that allows for all food groups. I’m also aware of how sugar can physically trigger binging if other factors are also acting on me (eg fluctuating hormones).

That doesn’t preclude me from being capable of having a few chocolates for breakfast at Christmas.

In that eating disorder thread I saw an opportunity to offer someone help by sharing some of the things I have learned over my life, both from my own personal experience, and from being friends with people who have children with extreme life-threatening eating disorders. In order to do that I conflated some elements of my story to make the advice as concise as possible.

I still don’t see how that makes me an unsuitable candidate for starting a casual thread about the wisdom of hypothetically starting a new diet immediately after Christmas when there is likely to be lots of particularly tasty food around the house.

Just didn't want to gain any more! So am calorie counting but including some treats and aiming for circa 1600. Also walking 5k each day to try to stop the gains!

30th until please make it stop now - random cheap biscuit selection boxes, peculiar foreign chocolate selection boxes, nasty chocolate coins, sugar candy canes
Why do you feel compelled to force all that down, though? Just because it's there?

Oh, I missed that you have an eating disorder. Just bin that crap already.

We used to hang Quality Street on the tree years ago but they’ve really gone down in quality, pardon the pun. I don’t buy them anymore

FFS OP

Which isn’t to say that I don’t overeat as well on occasion. I was bulimic, now I tend to just do the bingeing.

this year.

Two weeks ago you were telling us how you’d had an entire day of binging on sugar and felt out of control

and repeatedly insisting that diet makes no difference to how you feel and yet

why are you point blank lying and absolutely insistent on this thread when you have been so helpful and open and supportive on others
Helenahandkart
Hrt hasn’t helped my joint pain at all (hips, knees, shoulders, ankles, elbows, wrists - all the joints!)
What does make a difference is cutting down on carbs and sugar, and keeping my weight down.

i know i’ll get deleted for this but pissed off how misleading you’re being Op

2 weeks ago
I’m completely addicted to sugar, yesterday all I ate was white bread and sweets and chocolate, stacks of it, and that’s not unusual or me. It’s completely compulsive. I work really hard to avoid it, and have given it up for several months before, but crave it constantly even when I haven’t eaten any for weeks.

I think anyone that looks at OPs past posts will see she has a history of EDs and still has food issues which she is playing down here. I hate these bloody threads because they’re so often from someone struggling, followed by others who have similar issues. They often start them making out is something silly but there’s a bigger problem behind it all, as is the case here. I do hope you’re ok OP but this will not help.