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The most shocking thing you've read on Mumsnet..

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PricklyPear1234 · 19/12/2023 00:00

Just that really.. (Kind of lighthearted/maybe not!)

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housethatbuiltme · 19/12/2023 12:51

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 19/12/2023 10:51

If a consenting couple want to practice strangling/choking as part of their sex life then I'm sure they've weighed up the pros and cons.

You could say exactly the same thing about drug addicts, though: "they're consenting adults who will have surely weighed up the pros and cons before finding a vein and injecting the heroin - so the nanny government has no right in making it illegal".

I get that there are lots of kinks out there, but death-play is really not a wise one, however consenting or not you think you are. As well as the elephant-in-the-room fact that it's the perfect excuse for any rapist/murderer who can claim that "she got off on it and she asked me to choke her".

I think a key difference her is drug abuse is illegal because of the risk to the life of OTHER people not to themselves.

The drugs that are classified as high level and criminalized have a long history of being linked to induced mental psychosis which effects innocent bystanders.

I don't believe I have ever seen a paper proving a links between 'strangulation kink' and high risk of death to a random 3rd party.

EvelynKatie · 19/12/2023 12:52

TallulahG · 19/12/2023 12:22

Bloke who came on and started an AMA thread, declaring himself an IT specialist who wanted to assist the women of MN. Predictably got a bit of a kicking, but the funniest comment was ‘Thank god you’re here - up until now I’d just been bashing my tits on the keyboard and hoping for the best’.

That's given me a good laugh, forgot all about that one.

gooddayruby · 19/12/2023 12:52

TTCnumberfour · 19/12/2023 07:44

I’ll never forget Pamela who sadly passed away from pancreatic cancer. I wonder how her husband and son are doing.

Me too. Wonderful woman.

Deadringer · 19/12/2023 12:53

ZoeCM · 19/12/2023 12:34

A woman posted that her young daughter had told her that her stepdad was sexually abusing her. One poster said something along the lines of "He's your husband, you know what he's like in bed, ask her for details and see if it sounds plausible."

Christ. That is now my most shocking.

gooddayruby · 19/12/2023 12:55

pinkfunk · 19/12/2023 08:45

The woman who was asking if it was okay that she slept in and her partner go to their DC up and ready and they left the house before she'd woken up, and she didn't work lates/nights!

What's wrong with that?

LardoBurrows · 19/12/2023 12:56

TallulahG · 19/12/2023 12:22

Bloke who came on and started an AMA thread, declaring himself an IT specialist who wanted to assist the women of MN. Predictably got a bit of a kicking, but the funniest comment was ‘Thank god you’re here - up until now I’d just been bashing my tits on the keyboard and hoping for the best’.

🤣🤣🤣 Oh yes, I remember that thread and that post. The whole thread was hilarious and I particularly identified with that particular comment because my rather large tits have indeed sometimes ended up bashing the keyboard. I don't think he got the responses he was expecting 😄.

KeepSmiling89 · 19/12/2023 12:56

Not read all the replies on here but another one I remember reading either this year or last year was how someone was disgusted at a Dairylea advert because it advertised their cheese triangles with kids playing on a climbing frame and it posed a choking risk.

Plsdiscuss · 19/12/2023 12:58

I hear you@marquislafayette . I never post on those threads as I work in a SEND school.

I speak to all the parents every year doing their child's EHCP Annual Reviews. About 70% use the disability as a excuse not to/being unable to parent in certain areas of life. I patiently explain again and again and again "try x, let's refer you to y, sometimes you need to keep at these things longer than a few days, we can support you in all these ways..." The response from these parents is "the child can't. Don't you know they have SEND?" They can't seem to see that any child, SEND or not, will push boundaries if they're allowed to. Some of the behaviours I hear about, the child wouldn't dare do in school. The child knows we don't accept the behaviour, so they don't try.

The other 30% work within the needs of their SEND children and mostly get the results they want, as they parent the child through.

Completely up to the parent how they raise their child and live their life. I just get a bit fed up of parents near to tears telling me nothing works with their child's unwanted behaviour and when you gently unpick, it's because nothing has been tried with their child to support them in changing that behaviour that the parent so desperately wants to change.

housethatbuiltme · 19/12/2023 12:59

TiredEvenForAPhoenix · 19/12/2023 12:45

There are things that consenting adults aren't allowed in law to do though - wasn't there a case about men nailing each other's scrotums to things? And it was ruled that there are harms to which no one can consent? I really do feel concerned about the mainstream normalisation of choking and the impact porn has on teenage girls' experiences of what's expected of them in sex. I don't think we should be blasé about strangulation being a normal part of sex or that we should assume the only people doing it are fully informed and aware and truly consenting.

There is a man I was (loosly) reading about (because it made me a bit queasy TBH). He was a disabled 'performance artist' who self harmed, this was argued as 'taking control of his body in the face of degenerative disability' and he seemingly had a LOT of support and pats on the back.

He is apparently in a famous music video by Nine Inch Nails which shows up on all the lists of 'disturbing' videos because 98% of the video is real (he didn't die at the end though but all the torture was all real).

changedusername190 · 19/12/2023 13:03

fluffy dressing gown was really heartbreaking.

MissBuffyAnneSummers · 19/12/2023 13:07

People who won't let their kids out to play/be at home alone until they are 18 and who insist that anyone who does is neglectful.

Mitsouko1919 · 19/12/2023 13:09

Many years ago when I first discovered Mumsnet I remember a thread that was shocking, but perhaps better described as chilling. A woman posted to say her husband had supposedly gone on a short work trip, but had emailed her whilst away to say he'd left her for a woman he'd met online who lived overseas (Australia I think.) He'd clearly been planning it for a while - he'd written out a document stating that he was signing the house/savings etc fully over to her, that he would never make any claim on their joint assets in lieu of future maintenance. The most chilling part was that he stated he didn't want anything to do with their children, who I think were both under 10 - he told her to change their surname as he was never going to see them again. I think he sent similar emails to his parents and adult sibling, telling them all to essentially consider him dead to them.

I didn't keep up with the thread - wasn't that au fait with web spaces at the time so didn't think to put it on a watch list (if such a thing existed on here then.) I've often wondered since whether there was an update. I almost hope it was a troll as it was so upsetting.

I remember another woman with young children who posted that her husband had left her. She was absolutely devastated, MNetters supported her day and night for about a week when she was in extreme shock, profoundly distressed, stopped eating, kept fainting etc. Around day 10 she posted to say she had found a new boyfriend and had moved him in with her and her pre-school children. People on the thread were shocked, queried her behaviour and questioned whether she was a troll. From what I can recall she was a genuine poster and was appalled at MNetters 'judgements' as she had thought they were nice people when they were supporting her. She dismissed them as nasty people who just didn't want her to have a happy new life. Some people really are bonkers.

Mcface · 19/12/2023 13:09

RedChester · 19/12/2023 09:27

Sorry wait, someone’s DH wanted to use their stoma as an orifice to f**k?

That throwaway comment is the most shocking thing I’ve read on here, and I’ve been here years.

Used to work with stoma patients, we always gave out leaflets about the risks of this. I don't think it's an isolated incident.

Deadringer · 19/12/2023 13:12

Mcface · 19/12/2023 13:09

Used to work with stoma patients, we always gave out leaflets about the risks of this. I don't think it's an isolated incident.

Ok that's it I need to step away from this thread.

Violinist64 · 19/12/2023 13:14

Plsdiscuss · 19/12/2023 12:58

I hear you@marquislafayette . I never post on those threads as I work in a SEND school.

I speak to all the parents every year doing their child's EHCP Annual Reviews. About 70% use the disability as a excuse not to/being unable to parent in certain areas of life. I patiently explain again and again and again "try x, let's refer you to y, sometimes you need to keep at these things longer than a few days, we can support you in all these ways..." The response from these parents is "the child can't. Don't you know they have SEND?" They can't seem to see that any child, SEND or not, will push boundaries if they're allowed to. Some of the behaviours I hear about, the child wouldn't dare do in school. The child knows we don't accept the behaviour, so they don't try.

The other 30% work within the needs of their SEND children and mostly get the results they want, as they parent the child through.

Completely up to the parent how they raise their child and live their life. I just get a bit fed up of parents near to tears telling me nothing works with their child's unwanted behaviour and when you gently unpick, it's because nothing has been tried with their child to support them in changing that behaviour that the parent so desperately wants to change.

Thank you. My autistic son, who is now 32, went to a special school. We were determined that he would fit into normal society as best he could and this meant being parents to him. It was hard work as we needed to be extra strict with him and boundaries needed to be fully adhered to. We worked with the school and other professionals. We were only too aware of middle aged disabled men living with elderly parents and did not want this for him in the future. When he was twenty, he went to live in a group home, where he gradually learned how to be independent. In 2019, he was able to move into a HA flat, which he loves and looks after very well. His autism is too profound for him to be able to work in a commercial environment, but he works very hard in a social enterprise café and a charity shop. He will never drive but is able to use buses and trains in a limited way. He has a very small group of friends and is very active in the church. He enjoys karaoke and discos at the British Legion and is a keen member of a community choir. I know that disabilities come at all different levels but, even though some allowances have to be made, not everything can be blamed on the disability.

KnittingKnewbie · 19/12/2023 13:14

Generally how women are treated by their partners.
One woman moved to south America with her partner. He treated her like shit and when she went for drinks with his colleagues they were shocked he had a partner (presumably because he was trying it on with other women)

A lady recently who listed the mean things her partner does - all relatively minor but terrible as a whole. Then casually halfway down drops in that he calls her "damaged goods" because she was adopted. That came below leaving his clothes on the floor or forgetting her birthday

AmadeustheAlpaca · 19/12/2023 13:16

determinedtomakethiswork · 19/12/2023 09:00

I would imagine that one was a troll.

It was a long time ago and hope they were a troll but the post was part of a Mumsnet Q and A session and it appeared at the time to be sadly genuine. Too many people justify the fact that they can’t be bothered picking up their small children from school/ activities by pretending they are encouraging “independence”.

Costumier · 19/12/2023 13:16

Gotta love this spelling mistake, in classic mn style

Gwenhwyfar · 19/12/2023 13:17

Anisette · 19/12/2023 09:47

How would you cope with the postman knocking, or someone coming to read the meters?

Look through the window first to see who's there. Reading the meters isn't a big deal anyway as lots of people are always at work when they come and you can give your own readings.

wispadelight · 19/12/2023 13:19

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FictionalCharacter · 19/12/2023 13:20

LuciaPillson · 19/12/2023 12:27

So just to say about the stoma sex thing (I haven't seen the thread nor did I want to type those words) which has understandably worried a few people, I have seen a hospital pamphlet issued to new stoma patients which cautions not to use it for sex... and my question is how many people attempt that for the hospital to feel moved to put it in the info pamphlet? 😨

How many men attempt it. I'm sure the women aren't begging their partners to stick their dicks in their stomas!

I can't remember whether it was here or another forum, but there was a discussion about men demanding sex almost immediately after their wives had given birth. One woman's husband raped her, burst her stitches and caused an infection. Another woman's husband kept trying to stick it in her stoma, and caused an infection. And a midwife found a woman giving her husband a BJ from her hospital bed after giving birth.

Rainbowsandbutterflies1990 · 19/12/2023 13:24

Recently a poster asking why disabled children need to go school , as they won't work and don't they just need a 'holding pen' and doesn't most people have this view!!

having a disabled child myself that Is super upsetting.

AngryBirdsNoMore · 19/12/2023 13:29

housethatbuiltme · 19/12/2023 12:59

There is a man I was (loosly) reading about (because it made me a bit queasy TBH). He was a disabled 'performance artist' who self harmed, this was argued as 'taking control of his body in the face of degenerative disability' and he seemingly had a LOT of support and pats on the back.

He is apparently in a famous music video by Nine Inch Nails which shows up on all the lists of 'disturbing' videos because 98% of the video is real (he didn't die at the end though but all the torture was all real).

Well that’s absolutely not a corner of the internet I wanted to fall into today.

@TiredEvenForAPhoenix yes - R v Brown [1993].

One might argue that the consent was held to be invalid and the acts criminal because the men were homosexual. Three years later, R v Wilson [1996] considered a case of a woman being branded by her husband with his initials, using a hot knife on her arse. The Court in that heterosexual case upheld the woman’s consent…

EDIT: had to go and look up another case and didn’t want Mumsnet to refresh to the blasted adverts pages and lose my post…

Yalta · 19/12/2023 13:30

I remember reading about a mother who had moved with children to New Zealand her dh’s home country and wanted to leave but found that she could leave but her children because of NZ’s immigration laws couldn’t and she was stuck.

Gilead · 19/12/2023 13:33

I have a stoma. I feel a tad sick now!

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