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Shane Macgowan funeral on live

209 replies

EachandEveryone · 08/12/2023 15:45

Im just warching its really beautiful. Sky news.

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RallySooney · 09/12/2023 20:12

ShellfishCellar · 09/12/2023 20:03

Is there somewhere you can watch the whole funeral and not Rte player cos' those of us in the UK can't usually access it

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https://www.youtube.com/live/LHkbR4ip9jM?si=BZVI_wvnpIuRDUyE

ShellfishCellar · 09/12/2023 20:46

Thanks. Unfortunately the sound is very poor

RallySooney · 09/12/2023 21:00

Ah shite sorry!

Zonder · 09/12/2023 21:39

ShellfishCellar · 09/12/2023 20:03

Is there somewhere you can watch the whole funeral and not Rte player cos' those of us in the UK can't usually access it

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BBC iPlayer.

Abhannmor · 09/12/2023 22:22

DingDongMerrilyWithPie · 09/12/2023 18:16

I'm from Dalkey and poor people still live there.

I'm glad to hear it! Not been there since the early 90s. Even then a bike shed was about €1m.

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 10/12/2023 02:11

To Christmastreemagic you wrote your answer to beautifully and expressed what many of us trying to express

BOOTS52PollyPrissyPants · 10/12/2023 02:42

Janiie why are you commenting if you do not even know his collection of music, you sound very bitter to see Shane have such a send off the likes of which we will probably never see again in a church in Ireland and on tv. Awful to say but funerals in Ireland really are more enjoyable than boring weddings that go on for hours and people remember and share their love of the person and the good and the bad, laugh and cry and always a bit of a sing song.
Wish I was there at the local pub in Tipp for the real send off into the early hours as musicians all sang for hours and locals mingled with the celebs.

Boydd · 10/12/2023 02:51

Shane was def not considered a plastic paddy. His parents settled in a village called the silvermines and my family were neighbours of his. The funeral director that acted for the family yesterday was a very close friend of Shane’s and myself and Shane also frequented his other business which was a pub. He was a true son of Ireland and we as a family will miss him so much, as we still miss his beloved mam

PeopleAreWeird · 10/12/2023 02:54

Partner played with the pogues

Was a very sad day

Janiie · 10/12/2023 06:51

'you sound very bitter to see Shane have such a send off'

Not at all, it was a beautiful service as I've said throughout I was just surprised to see non stop coverage of it for hours on Sky news when there is so much stuff going on in the world. Did we need to see the full eulogies? No, I don't think we did .

StarryAnise · 10/12/2023 07:06

I watched the funeral highlights on Sky News and it was very moving up to this point.

Now that would have been a very different song...

Shane Macgowan funeral on live
StarryAnise · 10/12/2023 07:15

@Janiie The Pogues were a thing years before FTNY was a hit in 1987. We saw them at Manchester Poly in the early 80s. We were probably as pissed as they were, but it was a riot. Shane was notorious for banging himself on the head with a beer tray. So many good tunes - Sally McLennan and The Band Played Waltzing Matilda are favourites as well as the more famous ones.

Absolutely in the spirit of early 80s punk. FTNY made them mainstream but they were a classic Indie band long before that.

Sheeponacid · 10/12/2023 07:38

Glen Hansard was Outspan in the Commitments.

Zonder · 10/12/2023 08:20

Janiie · 10/12/2023 06:51

'you sound very bitter to see Shane have such a send off'

Not at all, it was a beautiful service as I've said throughout I was just surprised to see non stop coverage of it for hours on Sky news when there is so much stuff going on in the world. Did we need to see the full eulogies? No, I don't think we did .

That's mad. What would you do, show the funeral but cut the few minutes when his wife and sister were speaking?

I loved the eulogies. His sister spoke beautifully about her very real relationship with her brother and his wife, well she just loved him and it was beautiful to hear her memories.

You always had the option not to watch. We watched on iPlayer and could have FF but chose not to.

Thedrownedprophet · 10/12/2023 08:21

Nick Cave on Shane MacGowan:

"I know I should be talking about the pure unbridled genius of Shane MacGowan and how he was the greatest songwriter of his generation, with the most terrifyingly beautiful of voices — all of which is true. But what struck me at that moment was the extraordinary display of love for this man, so powerful and deep, that poured forth from the audience. It was like nothing I’ve ever experienced.. and in that moment, it brought to mind the short poem by Raymond Carver:

And did you get what
you wanted from this life, even so?
I did.
And what did you want?
To call myself beloved, to feel myself
beloved on the earth.

Zonder · 10/12/2023 08:23

@Sheeponacid no way! I didn't know that. I can see it now.

That's beautiful @Thedrownedprophet

Janiie · 10/12/2023 08:36

'That's mad. What would you do, show the funeral but cut the few minutes when his wife and sister were speaking?'

Few minutes?? They went on at length as they had every right to do so, just we didn't need to see it all live on the news. Show an edited version as is the norm with celeb funerals.

BeadedBubbles · 10/12/2023 08:44

@Janiie - you're right. We didn't need^^ to see it. That's what the off switch on your tv remote is for.

I was also surprised they showed the whole thing. And delighted. It was an amazing service. Give me that over wall to wall coverage of a royal wedding or funeral any day.

Abhannmor · 10/12/2023 08:54

ChristmasTreeMagic · 09/12/2023 15:47

When / where did bono claim he was in a war zone?

Sorry Christmastree , I couldn't remember so I had a look and found it in an IT article from 2014. But I don't think that's where I first came across it? Perhaps it was in The Front Man by Harry Browne but I lent that out years ago and it's vanished into the ether.

In fairness to Bono it was probably just a figure of speech.

Zonder · 10/12/2023 08:55

Janiie · 10/12/2023 08:36

'That's mad. What would you do, show the funeral but cut the few minutes when his wife and sister were speaking?'

Few minutes?? They went on at length as they had every right to do so, just we didn't need to see it all live on the news. Show an edited version as is the norm with celeb funerals.

Oh dear, was someone forcing you to watch the entire thing? That's difficult.

sakes · 10/12/2023 08:57

I loved it. Gorgeous to see. Such beautiful poetry and deserving of his beloved status.

sakes · 10/12/2023 09:01

And the Pogues were such a big deal in Glasgow with the barrowlands etc. important guy. Rather watch Shane's funeral for 100 days than...

Chinhairsoftheworldunite · 10/12/2023 09:51

Bobby Gillespie (Primal Scream) did a lovely tribute in the Guardian.

There was a fanzine in the UK in the 80s called Jamming - it had fairly low circulation but in those days you would grab anything that covered alternative music. I read about the pogues in there around 1983 and a pub they used to drink in north London. They were completely about their London Irish identity as punk, such a London centric thing, was so important to them. They were a continuum of the clash and all that had gone in in the 70s and was fading away. They were ridiculed by the Irish establishment at first, who were completely scathing of them, but then it did change and as others have said, Shane’s lyrics made people realise what a talented poet he was.

I saw them in the Red Roses for me days at Brixton Academy before heading to the swan in Stockwell. They would also play the fleadh in Finsbury Park. Extraordinary times especially when you think of the situation in London then.

Those old places in London carried such history for our parents and we were born right into that history - the Irish space carved out largely by the 60s generation who built something that meant their children could have an existence that didn’t compromise their Irish heritage nor their English reality. They were an extraordinary talented generation who largely did very well in England through difficult times ( 70s80s). Shane grew up in that world and it is familiar to all of us who grew up there with that same duality and fusing punk with trad with the most beautiful lyrics and sensibility - well I think Cohen and Waits tried to do something similar but I don’t think they we’re able to capture such an accurate expression in their words as Shane did.

Rainy Night in Soho is perfect ( and if i remember correctly was the b side to the single London Girl) originally.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PSi4CDANuUY

Really glad to hear people calling out the plastic paddy stuff - using that term is right wing, nationalist nonsense but does hurt and is also embarrassing wrong when applied to the London Irish.

London Girl - The Pogues

What a great song...The devil moon took me through the alleyDown by the Kardomah and the CentraleTo the Mews running through the backstreetsWhere the Blacks ...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PSi4CDANuUY

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 10/12/2023 09:53

StarryAnise · 10/12/2023 07:15

@Janiie The Pogues were a thing years before FTNY was a hit in 1987. We saw them at Manchester Poly in the early 80s. We were probably as pissed as they were, but it was a riot. Shane was notorious for banging himself on the head with a beer tray. So many good tunes - Sally McLennan and The Band Played Waltzing Matilda are favourites as well as the more famous ones.

Absolutely in the spirit of early 80s punk. FTNY made them mainstream but they were a classic Indie band long before that.

Wonder in we knew each other? I saw them in the Hacienda in 1985