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If Diana had lived...

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Sowhatsnext123 · 19/11/2023 17:26

(Inspired by The Crown 6)

What do you think her life would have been like? Would she have remarried someone extremely wealthy? Would she be seen as the English Rose she was made out to be despite being pretty much hated just before her death? Would Charles have married Camilla? Would Harry have married Meghan? Would she and William be close or would he be embarrassed by her public romances?

All speculation of course! :-)

OP posts:
Badbadbunny · 19/11/2023 20:16

I think she'd have lurched from one controversy to another. I can't imagine she'd ever have settled down and had a quiet life. Sadly, I think she thrived on publicity and drama. Probably not started life like that, but I think all the public adoration and attention turned her as well as all the famous people she met. Such a shame as I think she'd been a great mother to William and Harry, but it wasn't enough for her.

ShadowCipher · 19/11/2023 20:16

Badbadbunny · 19/11/2023 20:16

I think she'd have lurched from one controversy to another. I can't imagine she'd ever have settled down and had a quiet life. Sadly, I think she thrived on publicity and drama. Probably not started life like that, but I think all the public adoration and attention turned her as well as all the famous people she met. Such a shame as I think she'd been a great mother to William and Harry, but it wasn't enough for her.

i do wonder if that would be the case.

Stroopwaffels · 19/11/2023 20:17

I think she would have remarried, and divorced again. Because she was a very difficult and troubled woman who fell out with people regularly and cut people off. She was needy and demanding.

I also think she would have been the interfering MIL from hell to Catherine and Meghan.

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DC1888 · 19/11/2023 20:19

TheKnittedCharacter · 19/11/2023 18:21

I think she would never have been happy in a relationship as she was too bonkers damaged.

Her celebrity would not have waned, she’d still be mega famous but there’d be less interest in other celebrities to the extent there has been since her death.

Her celebrity would have waned immensely as the media landscape changed in the years after her death via the internet with far more outlets at our disposal and as a result less focus on just a few individuals.

Look at the current royals, you barely hear about them (certainly in comparison to how it used to be). The focus that Diana (and the likes of the Spice Girls) got can never happen now. So many options, the media is fragmented...EastEnders for example used to get 10 million plus every episode as we had so few choices of what to watch, now it gets a third that.

There are thousands more famous people than there used to be (and you don't even have to leave your own bedroom to become known), so the focus has been completely watered down and no-one can hog the limelight anymore. Not sure Diana would have liked this lower status as although she was portrayed as running from the media glare, she craved the attention and knew how to generate headlines.

ShadowCipher · 19/11/2023 20:19

Speculating on what Princess Diana's lifestyle and ambitions would be if she had lived is challenging and can vary based on personal opinions and hypothetical scenarios. Here are a few considerations:

Humanitarian Work:
Princess Diana was deeply involved in charitable and humanitarian causes. It's likely she would have continued her philanthropic efforts, advocating for issues such as landmines, AIDS awareness, and mental health.

Global Advocacy:
Given her global influence, she might have expanded her advocacy to address international humanitarian issues, working with various organizations to bring attention to global challenges.

Family Life:
Diana was dedicated to her sons, Princes William and Harry. If she had lived, she might have continued to play an active role in their lives and possibly been a grandmother, influencing the upbringing of her grandchildren.

Media and Fashion:
Diana was a style icon, and her influence on fashion was significant. She might have continued to have an impact on the fashion industry and perhaps even dabbled in media or design.

Evolution of the Monarchy:
Diana's presence and popularity had already brought a modern and relatable image to the British monarchy. Her continued influence might have contributed to further modernization and changes within the royal family.

Advocacy for Vulnerable Populations:
Diana had a compassionate approach to people facing adversity. She might have focused on advocating for the vulnerable, such as refugees, homeless individuals, or those affected by natural disasters.

Mental Health Advocacy:
Diana is considered one of the early public figures to openly discuss her struggles with mental health. In a world where mental health awareness has grown, she might have continued to be a prominent advocate for mental health causes.

Personal Growth and Independence:
Diana had expressed a desire for personal growth and independence. It's possible that, over time, she would have continued to define her own path and priorities separate from her royal role.

It's important to note that these are speculative scenarios.
Princess Diana's legacy remains significant, and her impact on various causes and societal perceptions continues to be remembered and celebrated.

SemperIdem · 19/11/2023 20:20

She would be happily remarried , probably living in America for at least of the time, after a period of disliked by the media which was well on its way at the point of her death.

She’d have been a difficult mother in law.

Charles and Camilla would have married regardless. It was Diana’s death that made the Queen understand the being liked by the public was useful, without it they would have done as they pleased as they always had.

William and Harry would be different men, not better just different. The loss of a parent at a young age has an enormous bearing on a person, even without the worlds media observing you.

TheKnittedCharacter · 19/11/2023 20:23

FancyFanny · 19/11/2023 19:59

Well, Sarah Ferguson certainly hasn't maintained her looks, and with Diana's erratic eating disorders and emotional difficulties she may well have aged badly!

Sarah Ferguson never blessed in the looks department, so had less to lose, and was also a smoker.

Alighttouchonthetiller · 19/11/2023 20:23

She would have re-married and Harry would have spent all his time howling about how bloody despicable she was.

CesareBorgia · 19/11/2023 20:25

Diana was a snob (told Charles the Spencer line was older than the Windsors)

I don't normally defend Diana, but this was in response to Charles childishly threatening to 'take her title away' - to emphasise that no one could take her Spencer title away.

Riverlee · 19/11/2023 20:28

Hated may be too strong a word, but the media were certainly turning again. She was seen as having one to many holiday etc. In many ways, her death gave her the saint status, not her actions in the months leading up to her death.

LoveThisDog · 19/11/2023 20:29

If Diana had lived I don't think she would be anywhere near as popular now as she is after she died. She's really been put on a pedestal, largely by the media! I remember when she died, it was a shock because it was unexpected and a horrible accident, but then the "outpouring of national grief" was largely egged on by the media.
Anyway, had she lived I think she would have married again and lived a life in the spotlight but with privacy, much like Sarah Ferguson lives now since her divorce from Andrew. She was young enough to have another child so may well have done that.
I think Charles would still have married Camilla. I think William would still have married Catherine. Charles and William's lives would be much the same as they are now.
I think Harry's life would be different. He's still so consumed by grief and bitterness. Had he had his mother in his life he would be a different person. Happier, more engaged in the royal life and work. I think he would have married someone else. Harry and Meghan, to me, seem like two damaged unhappy souls who have clung onto each other in need of support. Harry wouldn't have needed that if Diana were alive.

Wbeezer · 19/11/2023 20:29

I didn't particularly like her, she was like a fore- runner of "celeb culture ", complaining about attention but also courting it and using it. I didn't like it then and don't like it now. I don't think I was alone in being a bit fed up of her before she died.

LoobyDop · 19/11/2023 20:30

ShadowCipher · 19/11/2023 20:19

Speculating on what Princess Diana's lifestyle and ambitions would be if she had lived is challenging and can vary based on personal opinions and hypothetical scenarios. Here are a few considerations:

Humanitarian Work:
Princess Diana was deeply involved in charitable and humanitarian causes. It's likely she would have continued her philanthropic efforts, advocating for issues such as landmines, AIDS awareness, and mental health.

Global Advocacy:
Given her global influence, she might have expanded her advocacy to address international humanitarian issues, working with various organizations to bring attention to global challenges.

Family Life:
Diana was dedicated to her sons, Princes William and Harry. If she had lived, she might have continued to play an active role in their lives and possibly been a grandmother, influencing the upbringing of her grandchildren.

Media and Fashion:
Diana was a style icon, and her influence on fashion was significant. She might have continued to have an impact on the fashion industry and perhaps even dabbled in media or design.

Evolution of the Monarchy:
Diana's presence and popularity had already brought a modern and relatable image to the British monarchy. Her continued influence might have contributed to further modernization and changes within the royal family.

Advocacy for Vulnerable Populations:
Diana had a compassionate approach to people facing adversity. She might have focused on advocating for the vulnerable, such as refugees, homeless individuals, or those affected by natural disasters.

Mental Health Advocacy:
Diana is considered one of the early public figures to openly discuss her struggles with mental health. In a world where mental health awareness has grown, she might have continued to be a prominent advocate for mental health causes.

Personal Growth and Independence:
Diana had expressed a desire for personal growth and independence. It's possible that, over time, she would have continued to define her own path and priorities separate from her royal role.

It's important to note that these are speculative scenarios.
Princess Diana's legacy remains significant, and her impact on various causes and societal perceptions continues to be remembered and celebrated.

Edited

Straight from Google Bard. What’s the point?

Alighttouchonthetiller · 19/11/2023 20:31

I often think about Beyond Black, the novel by Hilary Mantel that has a section on the death of Diana and the aftermath. One of the characters says something along the lines of, 'And to think it was only the other day we were all saying what a slapper she was...' and it's true. My recollection of that summer was that lots of people were put off by her swimsuit-and-yacht behaviour, especially as she'd dragged the boys along with her. Public opinion was most definitely not universally positive. If she had lived, I think she was in for even more of a bumpy ride than she'd already had.

ShadowCipher · 19/11/2023 20:33

@LoobyDop
I had already give my own personal point then to provide a detailed list that gives the op more information i created the list, It gives the op more intelligence and analysis than me just guessing, or would you prefer my post just said "well i think she would of achieved more in the good causes that lady Diana was apart of."

LeggyLegsEleven · 19/11/2023 20:39

Her popularity would have wained. She died in her prime so she is stuck at that point forever but she would have gotten older and less traditionally attractive.
She wouldn’t have married Dodi and there would have been other men.
I don’t think Harry would have even met Meghan, I think he would have been pressurised to settle down much earlier.

ColleenDonaghy · 19/11/2023 20:41

I reckon Kate would've run a mile, even if she had met and started dating William. She doesn't strike me as someone with any time for drama, and Diana would have HATED being usurped in the press as the #1 woman in William's life.

Harry would have been an entirely different person. William too probably.

NovemberName · 19/11/2023 20:41

Timeforallthecheese · 19/11/2023 20:11

I think she’d have remarried and moved to the states once W and H were out of school/university etc. She wasn’t hated. That was clear with the reaction from the public after she died.

Def think she'd moved to the States. Be an A lister there. But low key.

I think the Prince's would have a terrible time with the media. The media only backed off because they killed her.

I don't think the Queen would have let Charles marry Camilla.

Such a waste of a life.

Toddlerteaplease · 19/11/2023 20:51

RocketIceLollie · 19/11/2023 18:24

She wouldn't be held anywhere near the level of affection as she was offered after her death I don't think. Her tragic accident made her a martyr. No idea what she'd be doing. Probably some high profile charity work.

Agreed. Also I think her and Charles had been on good terms with each other and were good friends. I think she'd have married someone else. (Not Dodi) and Charles would have married Camilla.

LadyMonicaBaddingham · 19/11/2023 21:03

Harry would have been less paranoid and angry and, therefore, would have been accepted when he proposed to Chelsy or Cressida. Charles would have married Camilla after Diana remarried. I truly believe that, given time and grandchildren Charles and Diana would have ended up on very good terms .

MadeOfAllWork · 19/11/2023 21:33

All the people denying that she wasn’t liked are misremembering in my opinion.
I knew plenty of people who had previously commented that the way she was acting on the yacht was disgraceful and shameful yet the minute she died were weeping and wailing.

Maireas · 19/11/2023 21:48

MadeOfAllWork · 19/11/2023 21:33

All the people denying that she wasn’t liked are misremembering in my opinion.
I knew plenty of people who had previously commented that the way she was acting on the yacht was disgraceful and shameful yet the minute she died were weeping and wailing.

This. People flipped completely.

Sowhatsnext123 · 19/11/2023 21:56

Maireas · 19/11/2023 21:48

This. People flipped completely.

I know right? Literally howling in the open streets sounding like wounded animals. It was just shocking.

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DonnaDonna0 · 19/11/2023 22:23

It’s interesting how we all have different recollections of back then. I think it was C & C who were very unpopular so much so that Charles and his team were trying anything and everything to gain favour.

MadeOfAllWork · 19/11/2023 22:27

DonnaDonna0 · 19/11/2023 22:23

It’s interesting how we all have different recollections of back then. I think it was C & C who were very unpopular so much so that Charles and his team were trying anything and everything to gain favour.

They were all unpopular. People saw Camilla as a home wrecker, they saw Diana as someone not behaving in a manner befitting the mother of the future king and Charles as someone who had bad phone sex and couldn’t keep his pants on.

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