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Suella Braverman is a danger to the UK and needs to go.

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TooBigForMyBoots · 09/11/2023 11:04

I thought Suella peaked me with her "lets take tents off homeless people as winter is coming" shite. But her performative cruelty is no longer a surprise.

She has surpassed herself in the last 24 hours and become actively dangerous to police and public with her remarks about protests. She is our Home Secretary. Her job is to keep us safe.

So why the fuck has she done the complete opposite with goady, childish statements about police and protesters?Shock

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67364745

Suella Braverman

Pro-Palestinian protest in London: Row over Suella Braverman’s claim of police bias

The home secretary comes under fire after saying the force often "plays favourites" when policing protests.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67364745

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BethDuttonsTwin · 10/11/2023 07:27

AdrianaLaCerva · 10/11/2023 07:22

In fact the majority of us inside London want them stopped too, we’re just too intimidated to resist them aggressive protestors and the police don’t seem interested in helping.

And this. I’m in London too.

jgw1 · 10/11/2023 07:28

SinnerBoy · 10/11/2023 07:26

Anyone who disrupts the Remembrance Weekend observations and parades are showing huge disrespect to our country.

Do you know that it's not going on on Sunday and that they've made sure to steer clear of the Cenotaph? It's the likes of the Mail and Telegraph whipping things up, with entirety false reporting which has led to people getting the impression that they're going to storm the Remembrance Day parade.

Not to mention, getting Timmy Robertson and his football hooligan mates in a froth and on the lookout for a fight.

Remembrance Weekend marks the anniversary of the end of the 1st World War, is it not entirely appropriate to call for a ceasefire in a current conflict on that weekend?

SinnerBoy · 10/11/2023 07:30

Erm... I'm not sure where you have got the impression that I'm against that!

jgw1 · 10/11/2023 07:51

SinnerBoy · 10/11/2023 07:30

Erm... I'm not sure where you have got the impression that I'm against that!

Sorry, I didn't think you had given that impression, I was being lazy and didn't scroll back to the poster who said.

"Anyone who disrupts the Remembrance Weekend observations and parades are showing huge disrespect to our country."

I would suggest anyone who doesn't support ceasefires on Remembrance Weekend is showing huge disrespect to humanity.

cakeorwine · 10/11/2023 08:03

She made comments about policing in Northern Ireland and the marches there. I don't think she knows as much about them as she thinks and needed to clarify her comments.

Braverman clarifies Northern Ireland comments amid angry criticism | Suella Braverman | The Guardian

Her job seems to be to see a fire and pour fuel on it.

Braverman clarifies Northern Ireland comments amid angry criticism

Home secretary criticised for likening pro-Palestine protests in London to sectarian marches

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/09/braverman-clarifies-northern-ireland-comments-amid-angry-criticism

lavenderlou · 10/11/2023 08:08

She needs to stay in place spouting drivel until the next election to remind people not to vote Tory.

jgw1 · 10/11/2023 08:10

cakeorwine · 10/11/2023 08:03

She made comments about policing in Northern Ireland and the marches there. I don't think she knows as much about them as she thinks and needed to clarify her comments.

Braverman clarifies Northern Ireland comments amid angry criticism | Suella Braverman | The Guardian

Her job seems to be to see a fire and pour fuel on it.

Braverman has done the impressive feat of uniting all the Northern Ireland parties on a topic. Quite a triumph.

I find myself agreeing with the Sinn Fein spokesperson. Braverman has “as much knowledge about the situation in Northern Ireland as she seems to have about the situation in Palestine at the moment”.

jgw1 · 10/11/2023 08:10

lavenderlou · 10/11/2023 08:08

She needs to stay in place spouting drivel until the next election to remind people not to vote Tory.

I presume this week she has lost some votes from what would previously have been a fairly conservative constituency in the police.

Redpaisley · 10/11/2023 08:18

TheThingIsYeah · 09/11/2023 11:18

Baroness Warsi said: “We have now, sadly, some of my colleagues in government who project as patriots but they are indeed arsonists. They set this country alight – they pit community against community, they create these fires. And that is not the job of a government.”

The fact we have "communities" in the plural sense in this country is depressing tbh. People shouldn't defined by the "community" they belong to.

Agreed. It shows lack of unity as a country, which anyways is true of UK. People don't have a sense of unity and pride like in other countries.

localnotail · 10/11/2023 08:27

Firstly, I myself would never go on a pro-Palestinian march, I don't like these kind of protests in general and I don't agree with the call for one-sided ceasefire, but they can not be banned, this is not how we should operate. The march should be monitored and policed adequately, but on the whole if its is peaceful it should go ahead. Banning protests is a massive step in the wrong direction, and Cruella is not only trying to do that, but she is actively provoking far right groups with her "disrespect" rhetoric to create clashes and disorder (presumably to say later "I was right" and then introduce another law to curb our liberty). Suella is a fascist, and its scary we have her in the position of power. Tories are scum.

AdrianaLaCerva · 10/11/2023 08:38

jgw1 · 10/11/2023 08:10

I presume this week she has lost some votes from what would previously have been a fairly conservative constituency in the police.

She will also have won a lot of votes. Swings and roundabouts.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 10/11/2023 08:43

I really don't like her and Sunak showed a massive lack of judgment in appointing her in the first place. It isn't time for her to go, she should never have been in the first place.

But my view is that no march of this nature should be allowed on Armistice weekend.

And the Met police are biased - they allowed BLM marches during covid but then cracked down on the Sarah Everard vigil. They do not police without fear or favour, they are racist (when it comes to things like stop and search and pulling over black people in nice cars like the athlete Bianca Williams) and sexist.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 10/11/2023 08:46

Remembrance Weekend marks the anniversary of the end of the 1st World War, is it not entirely appropriate to call for a ceasefire in a current conflict on that weekend

But that's not all it is, is it? There are very nasty elements involved in those marches. And also there have been marches every weekend for the past few weeks so they could take a break and have another protest next weekend. As if Hamas or Israel give a stuff what people in London think anyway.

ineedanothertree · 10/11/2023 08:52

BethDuttonsTwin · 10/11/2023 07:26

Indeed. It’s like banging your head against a brick wall trying to explain that these marches aren't just thousands of noble, well meaning, lovely people expressing their pain though. Other social media sites seem to have less bias in discussing these matters, which is a relief. I would be in total despair if it seemed that the majority were as naive as many on this site.

We either believe people died in 2 WW's for our freedoms or we don't.

Otherwise we go down the route of "Government authorised protests" You don't agree with this march but maybe the next one you will agree with but its banned as Braverman says so.

The Police should have independence from Government, same with the justice system

On Israel/Gaza, Hamas is 1000% responsible for the current war, they killed 1400 people and Israel defended its borders and went in after Hamas.

The argument is about proportionality, should 2m people be displaced and over 10,000 killed inc 4000 children in order to try and remove Hamas? aside from the fact that after all this is over, what happens to these remaining 2m people? everything has been destroyed.

This is what the vast majority are protesting about.

Darklane · 10/11/2023 08:54

travelnorth · 10/11/2023 05:53

People like Suella are dangerous as they stir up hostilities in people like you. How ironic when stirring hostilities is precisely what the Pro Palestine marches are achieving. Ignoring this it is indeed dangerous.

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Agree
one of the chants from the “ peaceful” protesters was
'There is only one solution, intifada revolution.'
Is this what you support?

ineedanothertree · 10/11/2023 09:00

Darklane · 10/11/2023 08:54

Agree
one of the chants from the “ peaceful” protesters was
'There is only one solution, intifada revolution.'
Is this what you support?

People should be allowed to protest, its for the Police/courts to decide if laws broken not politicians

GreekDogRescue · 10/11/2023 09:26

LittleGlowingOblong · 09/11/2023 12:38

The only person I can think of who would be worse would be Nigel Farage himself, and at least he’s not married to a vocal Zionist.

A Zionist is simply someone who believes in Israel’s right to exist.
Do you not believe in Israel’s right to exist?
isn’t that a bit racist?

BethDuttonsTwin · 10/11/2023 09:37

Yes, what specifically is the problem with being A Zionist?

topnoddy · 10/11/2023 09:39

GreekDogRescue · 10/11/2023 09:26

A Zionist is simply someone who believes in Israel’s right to exist.
Do you not believe in Israel’s right to exist?
isn’t that a bit racist?

Are Israelis a race now then ?

ineedanothertree · 10/11/2023 09:41

GreekDogRescue · 10/11/2023 09:26

A Zionist is simply someone who believes in Israel’s right to exist.
Do you not believe in Israel’s right to exist?
isn’t that a bit racist?

Whilst at the same time denying Palestinians their right to have their own state.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 10/11/2023 09:41

Hopefully they'll sweep her away this weekend. Nasty piece of work and wants to achieve a very right wing state. It says something when so many of her colleagues-in a right leaning party at the moment-don't support her. She's a troublemaker, and using Trump style populism on purpose. It wouldn't surprise me if her active supporters were on here banging the drum -there have been a few threads this week.

Jazzandblues · 10/11/2023 09:44

@TodayInahurry I suppose the genocide of the Palestinians doesn't matter. The murder of children and women doesn't matter. The murder of civilians doesn't matter. They have nowhere to go, hide or take shelter. You take on this really speaks of your lack of empathy and humility. We are witnessing a genocide and mass murder of civilians - war crimes. Conflating with the protests against Israel with Jewish people is antisemitism.

feedyourheed · 10/11/2023 09:45

BethDuttonsTwin · 10/11/2023 09:37

Yes, what specifically is the problem with being A Zionist?

Nothing, except that natives of a whole country had to be displaced and kettled in order for it to come to fruition.

I've no quarrel with Israel but zionism was and is the organised takeover of land that others inhabited.

Passepartoute · 10/11/2023 09:52

CalistoNoSolo · 09/11/2023 13:08

She's a product of the worst government in uk history. Sunak is utterly spineless. He won't sack her because he knows there is much support for her vile opinions within the tory membership, and firing her will bring on a vote of nc and leadership bid. She's a disgusting excuse for a human being who no right thinking person could support, but there were plenty of people ringing in to LBC on Ferrari this morning saying that she speaks for them.

The thing is, he needs to be aware that the Tory membership is a tiny, tiny minority of the electorate, where the polls show she is deeply unpopular. I think that, rather than sack her and make her a Marty, he should demote her to a junior position where she can do least harm. At least if she refuses to take it that's down to her.

Passepartoute · 10/11/2023 09:56

On Israel/Gaza, Hamas is 1000% responsible for the current war, they killed 1400 people and Israel defended its borders and went in after Hamas.

The argument is about proportionality, should 2m people be displaced and over 10,000 killed inc 4000 children in order to try and remove Hamas? aside from the fact that after all this is over, what happens to these remaining 2m people? everything has been destroyed.

This is what the vast majority are protesting about.

This, 100%. I just can't bear to keep turning on the news only to see more incredibly distressed Palestinian children who have had limbs torn off and who have lost parents and siblings, to say nothing of parents mourning over tiny bundles holding their dead children. It needs to stop.

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