Suella Braverman is a danger to the UK and needs to go.

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I thought Suella peaked me with her "lets take tents off homeless people as winter is coming" shite. But her performative cruelty is no longer a surprise.

She has surpassed herself in the last 24 hours and become actively dangerous to police and public with her remarks about protests. She is our Home Secretary. Her job is to keep us safe.

So why the fuck has she done the complete opposite with goady, childish statements about police and protesters?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67364745

...the point of you continuing to dig a hole for yourself?

Yes, good question 😀

Go on about Suella but whoever go to these protests where people are calling for killing jews are very disgusting.

The demo is to stop the war not to call for the killing of anyone

Anyone can join how we do you may get people who are not there for the actual purpose but that's not a reason in itself to ban any march

I really don't know the average age. I do know that my grandson's entire Scout troop are members though, and I believe that's not uncommon.

Can you tell me what proportion of the 2,080 YouGov respondents are RBL members? Or suggest any reason why the opinion of an average person-in-the-street should be held to be representative of the opinion of an average RBL member?

I don't need to provide proof of my claim - you made the initial claim and you continue to post links which don't back it up..

the police were aware of a "significant demonstration" planned for 11 November, but not Remembrance Sunday, and that organisers were "engaging with our officers and have said they are willing to avoid the Whitehall area, recognising the sensitivities around the date" is in no way the same as your claim 'that the Met Police instructed the organisers to avoid the Whitehall area and the organisers agreed'.

You've provided no evidence whatsoever that they ever intended to pass the Cenotaph or that they were instructed not to.

As for the location of the stage - the Police would have known that a stage was to be erected at the end of the march, and they instructed the organisers to end the march at that point. Or are you suggesting that in addition to allowing random Palastinian sympathisers to erect a structure in Whitehall without permission, the Police didn't require any information about events at the end of the march when permission was sought? You think the Met Police are entirely passive concerning events a hundred metres or so from Parliament and New Scotland Yard?

SoMuchSimpler
I really don't know the average age

Neither do I - but their 2022 Annual Report says this;

Membership numbers are in long-term decline and the average age is increasing, with a branch model that is struggling to engage and attract younger and more diverse members.

70 is the average age of a Conservative Party member according to the Bow Group

It is also fairly certain that, that is an organisation in decline.

Yes bizarre isn't it?

So many people died for our freedoms but the staunchest supporters of remembrance day want to remove our long held freedoms.

I doubt very much that Braverman could care less about remembrance day, so i wonder what her motives are?

2017
Is the average Conservative Party member really 72 years old? It’s almost impossible to know exactly, but 57 is probably the best guess for now.
So reports that the Conservative party is ageing out of existence may be premature, according to large-scale research done by Queen Mary University and YouGov
It also found that all major parties have a similar average age, which is in the fifties.

https://fullfact.org/news/how-old-average-conservative-party-member/

“People who join political parties are abnormal”, Professor Bale says.

Couldn’t agree more! 😂

The Bow group dispute the 57 figure and that the 72 one fits in with earlier research.

My Aunt was a Tory member, she is 70s and resigned for many reasons but one was that the party membership was v old & senile.

Alexandra2001
The Bow group dispute the 57 figure and that the 72 one fits in with earlier research.

Somewhat amusing since you are a fan of Jeremy Corbyn and Joe Biden.

😂

who cares?

SoMuchSimpler
You've provided no evidence whatsoever that they ever intended to pass the Cenotaph or that they were instructed not to

organisers were "engaging with our officers and have said they are willing to avoid the Whitehall area

• this rather implies they were asked (or instructed) to avoid the Whitehall area and they agreed. Previous marches have not avoided the area - it may even be the case that the organisers were not initially aware it was Armistice Day on 11 November.

the Police would have known that a stage was to be erected at the end of the march

A stage - or a stand? Do you have proof?

Or are you suggesting that in addition to allowing random Palastinian sympathisers to erect a structure in Whitehall without permission, the Police didn't require any information about events at the end of the march when permission was sought? You think the Met Police are entirely passive concerning events a hundred metres or so from Parliament and New Scotland Yard?

The police quite clearly claimed they did not authorise the structure.
From the previous link up thread;

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: “We recognise the huge significance and sensitivity about the Cenotaph and have seen the concerns raised about the positioning of stands as part of the protests on Saturday.

“We see hundreds of protests every year passing through or finishing at Whitehall and it is important to explain that police do not authorise, nor are responsible for, deciding or giving permission on where stands are positioned on public highways.

“Organisers need to apply to local authorities to be given permission for placing any item or structure on their roads. In this instance, that permission would be for consideration by Westminster City Council.

“Met traffic officers would only be involved if the presence of the item is likely to cause danger to other road users, overhanging the carriageway, incorrect signage or if noise/public order issues are occurring.

“We have fed the concerns raised into Westminster Council so that they can take this into consideration for any future protests or events.”

Westminster City Council also claimed they did not give permission for the structure.

You think the Met Police are entirely passive concerning events a hundred metres or so from Parliament and New Scotland Yard?

It's not me making the claim (see their statement above). If Met Police officers on duty did take a very relaxed view on the erection and location of the structure - next to the Cenotaph (and without written permission from Westminster City Council or the Met Police) then Suella Braverman has a point regarding leniency towards some groups.

More YouGov

Being asked to do avoid doing something is not the same as ever intending to do something.

I could be asked not to go into the city centre tomorrow by the police. I could agree even though I never had any intention of doing so.

cakeorwine
Being asked to do avoid doing something is not the same as ever intending to do something

I know - that's why I posted that avoiding the Cenotaph was not necessarily their original plan earlier in the thread. SoMuchSimpler was crediting the group with being proactive rather than reactive.

Since whatabout is the theme of the hour.

Have you @derxa or @Clavinova worked out why you think it was acceptable for a 56 year old to have an illegal birthday party and then lie to parliament about it?

😂😂😂

I heard too that they had no intention of going to the Cenotaph.
It was on the radio last week.

So it seemed it was never going to happen.

I find it hard to believe that some in Rishi "honesty and integrity" Sunak's government would make up a story about something that was never going to happen.

I for one was certain that But Jeremy Corbyn was going to introduce a meat and two veg tax along with seven bins any day now until Sunak scrapped them.

Braverman has now met with Met Commissioner and "emphasised her full backing for the police in what will be a complex and challenging situation" at the protests tomorrow.

DuncinToffee · Today 15:05

,The Royal British Legion supports the right to March for Peace.

OMG!!! Bunch of anti-Semitic Islamofascists!

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