‘XL Bully’ type dog attacked

[Whentheboatcomein]

My DH and our Ddog were walking tonight and it came running out of the dark, grabbed my dog by the back leg, and dragged him out of his harness and round the road. Thankfully my DH fought it off and lifted our DDog up over his head whilst shouting and neighbours came out to help.

DDog has puncture wounds but otherwise seems ok. DH is a bag of nerves.

A lady came out to inform us it is her sons dog, he found it abandoned and is keeping it in the garden and walking it at night as it “attacks other dogs” as she said.

thank god it wasn’t worse. Thank god my DH acted to lift our dog.

I don’t want this to be a bashing thread, I’m just so shaken and need to get it out.

here’s DDog for those who will ask :)

I have mentioned the attack on my lab by an XL bully on here before. They don’t let go and it’s awful to watch your dog being attacked with one of these ‘things’. Unfortunately my boy never survived the attack.

We live in Scotland where these ‘things’ won’t be banned at the moment unfortunately.

My DH was bitten by it and the attack was ferocious. The police do nothing.

I’m so sorry hear your dog was attacked OP, it’s traumatic for the owners of the dogs that are the victims of these abominations of animals.

I am so so sorry you went through this and lost your boy. I hope your husband is ok also.

The shock is wearing off now and I’m just so angry. So angry that they knew it was dangerous and violent by their own words.

The owner stank of beer and admitted he’d left the gate open.

He wanted to come to our house to apologise but I couldn’t. I’d say something I’d regret.

@Whentheboatcomein Dh was fine after treatment, thank you for asking. The attack was brutal. We smacked the thing with a fence post, lifted its back legs and still it wouldn’t let go. Once these things bite and latch on they appear to enjoy the attack.

You will get people come on to your thread and attempt to justify the existence of these things. If you look up Kimbo on Google it will explain everything to you from where a lot of these XL bully’s blood lines came from in the UK.

I always carry a slip lead with me when I walk my dog. Even if another dog latches onto your dog, you can slip the slip lead under their throat and thread the other end through, then you start choking them. Dogs will let go just before they pass out. It shouldn't kill the dog, just make them faint. I bet it's hard to do in a panic and in the frenzy of the moment, but it's the only legal tool we can carry!

This is not correct.

Owners must have their dogs under control at all times by law. This dog was not under control. The owner has committed an offence and the dog is clearly dangerous and vicious. Pursue it with the police and Council. I hope it is euthanised. If a dog has attacked once the likelihood of it doing so again is many times higher.

Back from the vets, he’s on antibiotics and pain relief. We have hibiscrub to bathe the wounds. No lasting damage. Thank you for all the well wishes.

We took the bill to the owner of the dog and he’s said he hasn’t got the money, so out of pocket ourselves too.

Have you chased this up with the police? That dog needs euthanising before it attacks another dog or human.

I once asked a professional dog trainer (I'm speaking as to someone who works with police and military) what to do in the case of a dog attack where the aggressing dog won't stop.

He told me two things - a small squeezy bottle filled with water and a little bit of lemon juice - spray it into the attacking dogs eyes and nose, it will disorientate them and they'll let go (not intended to burn the dogs eyes or anything abusive). Other option, grab a nearby stick and shove it hard as you can up the aggressing dog's backside (I imagine this option could cause injury).

I have no idea if either of these ideas is legal but it could stop the victim dog being mauled to death.

neither of these will work.

Your best and ONLY option is literally to choke the dog out, they will not hold to unconsciousness and will let go. Use a lead or twist their collar.

Either of the two methods suggested just risk redirection of the aggression onto you.

I saw something on YouTube about choking them during an attack. The idea of carrying a choke lead is a good one.

There are videos on the internet of these dogs carrying on after being struck with machetes, traditional methods like spraying in the eyes and something up the bum doesn't work, the only thing that works is choking them out if you can get something around the highest point of their neck

But how do you get it round their neck if their jaws are clamped on another animal or person?

That XL bully is out of control. There is no other way of explaining this horrific incident. Your poor dog could potentially have been killed and your DH injured or worse. I’d be a gibbering wreck if I’d been there and I’m not scared of dogs.
The woman’s explanation sounds dodgy. The dog should be contained within her house and garden. I sincerely hope it is going forward.

A slip lead is a length or rope with a loop on one end. You would have to pass the rope around the dogs neck, slip the end through the loop, and then adjust it so its just under the jaw. Then tighten and twist. (Thats assuming the dog isn't wearing a collar.) I don't recommend sticking anything up the dogs backside. If you're going to intervene you have to accept the risk you will be bitten, and you need to control the dogs head. Stand behind the head at the dogs shoulder while you do it.

Spoke to the police again, it’s been logged as a crime and the dog is going to be put on a dangerous dog list, but they are only going to go round and check they plan to rehome it and check it’s garden is secure

Exactly this.

it would have to have a free end to thread it around the attacker’s neck

@BellaAndDave Your story has haunted me. Blunt force trauma turns these beasts on more.
A stick forcefully inserted into the rectum was advised - but again, easier said than done
these brutes wag their tails high during an attack as well, they are high on dopamine and adrenaline while attacking.
Lucky are those who can legally “Carry”.

@Whentheboatcomein It needs euthanasia.
It’s clearly dangerous.
These idiots trying to rehome these unstable dogs before the “ deadline “ is ridiculous.

More people were attacked by an out of control XL bully last night ( on news ) the

When these things lock a bite there’s no way they let go and it’s difficult to get a lead around their throat when they have your dog/a human in their jaws. DH is a vet, believe me, we tried everything including a lead around its throat. We used a LOT of force on that thing. The only thing that worked was dragging it with my dog in its jaws to a nearby river, it never lived. I have no remorse for that. I still shudder to think what would have happened if we’d had my DGC with us that day.

I’ve said on another thread I happily carry another tool which will stop another attack. Ok it’s illegal, but I don’t care after what I witnessed that day. You can buy things online that look like one thing but are another.

I wonder if they can be taken to small claims court? At the least in the hope it would persuade them to have this dog put down.

@BellaAndDave can you pm me please. Elderly disabled person here, I live on an estate and walk my miniature dachshunds. This is my worst fear. I carry a metal crutch, but from what people are saying it wouldn't be enough. ☹️

I have my PMs disabled I’m afraid, Im not sure if you can reply to me but I’ve sent you a link.

My cocker spaniel was badly attacked, needed 5 weeks of vet treatment that cost nearly £1k. Owner refused to get involved, blamed my dog for "starting the fight" and even when the Police got involved (I got bitten), tried every trick in the book to get out of it including saying his friend was looking after the dog, not him. He was given a magistrate order to keep the dog muzzled at all times and on a lead but he doesn't. It has tried to attack my dog at least 3 more times....

Be very very careful going near that house again.

It's terrifying that we should have to discuss how to disarm a dangerous dog (if at all possible).

I was about to say maybe dog walkers need to carry tasers or tranquiliser darts until I realised how ludicrous (and never gonna happen) that would be!

That's not actually true , a lot of forces trot that line out but the dog was still dangerously out of control in a public place contrary to s3 dangerous dogs act .

I've worked on this area extensively and have been advising government on dangerous dogs for my force which has helped get the X-L bully breed on the dangerous dogs act.

I wouldn't accept this . They can still be dealt with under s3 dangerous dog act even if it was dog on dog attack .

I'm sure the dog magically 'won't be there' just like all my neighbours dogs mysteriously disappear when the housing want to check on them.

Otherwise, I hope the police have a nice time hanging out with it and building a real picture of the dog's behaviour as I'm sure they'll freak it out just as much as anything could.