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Is it allowed to put political flags on public lamp posts for the entire street?

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HaveANiceevening · 02/11/2023 19:07

I noticed that the Palestine flags were on every single lamp post on the entire street and the next one in my neighbourhood.
This area has a mixed population; some of them are Jewish.

Can the council put the flags up like this? Or is it likely to be individuals?

Thank you.

Is it allowed to put political flags on public lamp posts for the entire street?
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ACGTHelixA · 02/11/2023 23:10

HaveANiceevening · 02/11/2023 19:13

It is really high-up and there are so many of them - like the entire streets....

then its someone with a cherry picker type machine etc but yes most likely individuals,

Summerscoming23 · 02/11/2023 23:17

windypumpkin · 02/11/2023 19:10

It won't be the council but if you want them removed it will be the council you should contact

Would the council actually remove them??

Because I am in the North of Ireland there is always flags flying. Atm its a mix of Palestine in republican areas and isreal in unionist. Unfortunately there's always flags in this area barely anyone bats an eyelid- would love if there was mo flags of Any description !

Glitteratitar · 02/11/2023 23:35

Are you actually in an area with a large Jewish population, or do you just happen to know some of your neighbours are Jewish? Because unless it’s the former, any claim that it’s intimidation is ambitious

GunboatDiplomacy · 03/11/2023 00:01

Peskysquirrel · 02/11/2023 20:58

That's a pretty serious allegation about your council OP! Are these provable facts (corruption and I presume you mean electoral fraud) or just local rumours? Are you even in the UK?

Well, whatever. I don't want to derail. Either report it or don't. Up to you.

It became rapidly clear the the OP is in Tower Hamlets, which does indeed have a reputation as a hotspot of election shenanigans, and whose current mayor has made a remarkable comeback after being dismissed for engaging in corrupt and illegal electoral practices.

MooFroo · 03/11/2023 00:07

Teaandtoast456 · 02/11/2023 19:09

The only way you will know for sure is to contact the council and ask them. I would expect it was individuals though. If it's a Jewish neighbourhood, it was probably done to intimidate the Jews living there.

Or done by the many Jews who support an immediate ceasefire in Palestine and understand the history of the occupation…

Icefoot · 03/11/2023 00:09

GunboatDiplomacy · 03/11/2023 00:01

It became rapidly clear the the OP is in Tower Hamlets, which does indeed have a reputation as a hotspot of election shenanigans, and whose current mayor has made a remarkable comeback after being dismissed for engaging in corrupt and illegal electoral practices.

The Mayor in Tower Hamlets is a law unto himself. Busy undoing all the work that's been done since he was banned from office last time round. Only has any interest in one section of the community and only the male part of that community. Senior staff, including director level staff, are leaving at a rapid rate.

Tower Hamlets Council are removing the flags though.

Icefoot · 03/11/2023 00:21

Peskysquirrel · 02/11/2023 20:58

That's a pretty serious allegation about your council OP! Are these provable facts (corruption and I presume you mean electoral fraud) or just local rumours? Are you even in the UK?

Well, whatever. I don't want to derail. Either report it or don't. Up to you.

Here you go all true

Lutfur Rahman: Ex-mayor banned for 'corrupt and illegal practices' re-elected in London's Tower Hamlets

Lutfur Rahman was removed as mayor of Tower Hamlets in 2015 after an election court found him guilty of corrupt and illegal practices.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/lutfur-rahman-ex-mayor-banned-for-corrupt-and-illegal-practices-re-elected-in-londons-tower-hamlets-12607083

HaveANiceevening · 03/11/2023 04:59

Glitteratitar · 02/11/2023 23:35

Are you actually in an area with a large Jewish population, or do you just happen to know some of your neighbours are Jewish? Because unless it’s the former, any claim that it’s intimidation is ambitious

Do not twist my words to fit your narrative, please.

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Glitteratitar · 03/11/2023 06:17

HaveANiceevening · 03/11/2023 04:59

Do not twist my words to fit your narrative, please.

Do explain how I have twisted your words?

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 03/11/2023 07:35

Well if it is Tower Hamlets, that’s not an area with a large Jewish population and actually has one of the largest Muslim populations in any London borough, so the argument that it was some sort of anti-Semitic intimidation tactic is really a moot point.

It’s far more likely that it was people supporting a ceasefire than anything. We can’t just keep calling every anti-Zionist protest anti-Semitic.

HaveANiceevening · 03/11/2023 08:11

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 03/11/2023 07:35

Well if it is Tower Hamlets, that’s not an area with a large Jewish population and actually has one of the largest Muslim populations in any London borough, so the argument that it was some sort of anti-Semitic intimidation tactic is really a moot point.

It’s far more likely that it was people supporting a ceasefire than anything. We can’t just keep calling every anti-Zionist protest anti-Semitic.

Where did you find me saying it has a large Jewish population?

Is it allowed to put political flags on public lamp posts for the entire street?
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DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 03/11/2023 08:14

@HaveANiceevening not you, other posters.

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 03/11/2023 08:16

Although I do fail to see the relevance of you mentioning the small Jewish population in the area, unless you are also saying that the flags will offend them?

HaveANiceevening · 03/11/2023 08:19

Glitteratitar · 03/11/2023 06:17

Do explain how I have twisted your words?

No, because you've already made up your mind, and the purpose of my post is not to win the argument with you - a stranger on internet.

Have a nice day.

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immigrant002 · 03/11/2023 08:21

Its likely individuals @SharonEllis did you report all the Ukrainian flags ?

Glitteratitar · 03/11/2023 08:22

HaveANiceevening · 03/11/2023 08:19

No, because you've already made up your mind, and the purpose of my post is not to win the argument with you - a stranger on internet.

Have a nice day.

Your inability to answer my question and your defensiveness only confirms the real intention of your thread and which one of us is actually trying to push an agenda here.

HaveANiceevening · 03/11/2023 08:34

Glitteratitar · 03/11/2023 08:22

Your inability to answer my question and your defensiveness only confirms the real intention of your thread and which one of us is actually trying to push an agenda here.

Ok.
Again, have a nice day. 🙏

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caringcarer · 03/11/2023 08:48

HoogahToogah · 02/11/2023 19:13

There are still Ukrainian flags tied to posts in villages I drive through, so I don't see why not. Unless it's one rule for one and one rule for another, which we obviously know it is.

That would only be the same if Russians lived in these villages.

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 03/11/2023 08:50

caringcarer · 03/11/2023 08:48

That would only be the same if Russians lived in these villages.

Tower Hamlets is 40% Muslim and 0.6% Jewish.

GunboatDiplomacy · 03/11/2023 08:52

Tower Hamlets is an unusual case because although the modern Jewish population is very small, in line with the average for the UK as a whole, it has significant Jewish history from the early 20th century.

caringcarer · 03/11/2023 08:54

I think putting these flags in an area Jewish people live is to intimidate them. Flags from any side shouldn't be tolerated on public buildings. They can hang a hundred flags on their own home but not public buildings.

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 03/11/2023 08:57

@GunboatDiplomacy I understand that, but the population now is largely Muslim so are very likely to be supporting their brothers and sisters who are suffering in Palestine. I’m sure even the very small Jewish population who live in the area would understand that. It’s nothing to do with intimidation, it’s about protest and support.

Some posters on this thread are trying to equate support for the Palestinians with anti-semitism and aggression and, quite frankly, it’s disgusting.

caringcarer · 03/11/2023 08:58

PoisonJuicy · 02/11/2023 21:04

Looking to make something out of nothing. It’s not a criminal offence to display the flag of Palestine. Is that you Suella?

Not in or on your own property, no but defeacing public property is a crime. No flags of any type should be put on public buildings. It's inflammatory and causes tension.

karmakameleon · 03/11/2023 09:01

caringcarer · 03/11/2023 08:58

Not in or on your own property, no but defeacing public property is a crime. No flags of any type should be put on public buildings. It's inflammatory and causes tension.

Some public buildings display flags of other nation states, and before Brexit, the EU flag. I’ve definitely seen Ukrainian flags flying on public buildings in the UK.

HoogahToogah · 03/11/2023 09:20

DrinkingMyWaterMindingMyBiz · 03/11/2023 08:57

@GunboatDiplomacy I understand that, but the population now is largely Muslim so are very likely to be supporting their brothers and sisters who are suffering in Palestine. I’m sure even the very small Jewish population who live in the area would understand that. It’s nothing to do with intimidation, it’s about protest and support.

Some posters on this thread are trying to equate support for the Palestinians with anti-semitism and aggression and, quite frankly, it’s disgusting.

People are so black and white, they genuinely can't seem to understand that any criticism of the Israeli regime isn't anti semetic. We have people on this thread implying that the people who hang flags are the same people that released mice into Mcdonalds. The pro Palestinian marches in London were largely trouble free and - shock horror - not only just attended by young Muslim men. But apparently only that particular demographic would have the gumption to hang flags and show support.

I don't think people realise how much support and empathy there is towards the Palestinians from "neutrals". That doesn't mean they condone Hamas, and it absolutely does not mean that they are anti semetic.

And what about the vast amount of Israelis also criticising their own government, are they anti semetic?